Talk:Desilijic
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We have "Antilles family" and "Skywalker family" why not "Desilijic clan"? Just curious why this is treated differently. --SparqMan 15:38, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I always thought Desilijic was a family name like the rest not a clan, however it wouldnt sound right as Desilijic family. Hmm. Meditate on this I will. -- Riffsyphon1024 16:41, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Riff: Desilijic is a clan name, not a family name. Consider the name Jabba Desilijic Tiure. PersonalName ClanName FamilyName. I believe this is the form used by most, if not all, Hutts. I think that a Hutt family is a smaller part of a Hutt clan, but I could be wrong.
- SparqMan: Good question. I hadn't even thought about what you're saying. I think the reason is simply because of how the Hutts in the Han Solo Trilogy refer to their clans. It is much the same as the way we might refer to corporations: "That was a nasty move by Microsoft" / "That was a nasty move by Besadii" rather than "That was a nasty move by the Besadii clan". I suppose one might say "That was a nasty move by the Microsoft Corporation", but it's not nearly as common (at least in my experience. "Microsoft Corporation" may very well be the name of the Wikipedia article, though (now that I look, it's not: the article title is simply "Microsoft", and the first words of the article are "Microsoft Corporation". "Desilijic clan" may be the proper name for the article, and I would have no complaint if it was changed. I would say, however, that it should remain simply "Desilijic" for most of the times that it is referred to in other articles. – Aidje talk 22:51, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Well a redirect solves the problem of article references. It may eve be more appropriate for "Desilijic kajidic" to be the title. --SparqMan 03:10, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- "Kajidic" would refer only to the criminal organization controlled by a clan, not to the clan itself. Admittedly, most of the clan is involved in the kajidic, but there is a distinction. – Aidje talk 20:26, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Where do you drive that from? All the references I've seen infer that the kajidic was the clan, it's holdings and retained slaves/mercs/etc. Rebel Dawn says that there were 48 within the Hutt Grand Council, and I doubt the council would be made up of representatives from 48 criminal organizations, regardless of the common vocation of Hutts. --SparqMan 00:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- So... clan it is, then? Or should we vote? --Imperialles 22:09, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Guess not. I'll move all the clans to 'ClanName clan' if there aren't any objections in 24 hours. Or if Riff or WB gives me the green flag. --Imperialles 23:18, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Imperialles, calm down. There is no rush and it would be silly for you to rush off only to have to redo your work. Let's talk about it. --SparqMan 00:20, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm a bit trigger itchy. Well. What sources are there that name other species as part of a kajidic? --Imperialles 00:24, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I'm honestly a bit confused as to what it is you're trying to argue, but if you're wondering about non-Hutts being a part of a Hutt kajidic, just look at Teroenza. He was the 'high priest' of the Besadii Ylesian operation, which I presume would make him a part of their kajidic (he was t'landa Til, by the way). I believe he also attended the Hutt Grand Council in Rebel Dawn, but I could be mistaken. – Aidje talk 02:59, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm a bit trigger itchy. Well. What sources are there that name other species as part of a kajidic? --Imperialles 00:24, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Imperialles, calm down. There is no rush and it would be silly for you to rush off only to have to redo your work. Let's talk about it. --SparqMan 00:20, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Guess not. I'll move all the clans to 'ClanName clan' if there aren't any objections in 24 hours. Or if Riff or WB gives me the green flag. --Imperialles 23:18, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- "Kajidic" would refer only to the criminal organization controlled by a clan, not to the clan itself. Admittedly, most of the clan is involved in the kajidic, but there is a distinction. – Aidje talk 20:26, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Grand Admiral Sean8 on the SW.com forums had this to say:
- A Kajidic is all three definitions: it is a Hutt crime ring, but a crime ring run by a single family. All of the family's resources, slaves, etc., are poured into the Kajidic. Note that, for traditional purposes, a Hutt is forbidden from revealing his true last name, which can only be known to other members of the same family. Thus, Hutt families use their Kajidic names as aliases.
- Certainly sounds good to me. --Imp 14:04, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Wasn't there a Hutt from the Desilijic clan on Naboo that was actually involved in legitimate business? I thought I remember reading about him a long time ago in a Star Wars Insider article on Star Wars Galaxies.
- Would that be Borvo?--1upD 21:43, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Thats Gorr your thinking of,I doubt Borvo is part of Jabba's clan.--Borvo's fan 15:58, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Where exactly does it say that the symbol in the picture (which is also tattooed on Jabba's arm) is the symbol of the Desilijic clan? Can't remember reading it anywhere... Nightlily 16:38, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
- Two years, and no one bothers to answer?!? But anyway, the symbol is confirmed as the logo of the Desilijic in Star Wars: Darth Plagueis.--Nightlily 19:15, December 22, 2011 (UTC)