Contents 1 Vong rank 2 Title name 3 Post and Powers 4 Still waiting for proof 5 Luke 6 Full Title 7 Moffs 8 Vader 9 Darth Vader

Vong rankEdit

Although I haven't read any NJO, I understand that the Vong also had a position of Executor. Maybe someone more knowledgable than I could mention it here? Kuralyov 00:23, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

• Um, what exactly are the sources for this article? For all I know, it's entirely legit, but at the very least, a list of sources might appease the paranoia of Ewoks like myself? Thanks! -McEwok 22:18, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • This is a bit late, but in Destiny's Way it is mentioned that the vong have this rank--VideoGamePower 17:50, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Title nameEdit

Dark Empire II and Empire's End lead me to believe that while the person holding the rank was refered to as "Executor Johnson", the office itself was the "Military Executor". Thoughts? --SparqMan 03:34, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)

• Well, if "Military Executor" is the office, then we should add this to the article. Or, we could move this to Military Executor. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:26, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Post and Powers Edit

It seems as though Executor was a not quite an official position but more a personal appointment made by Palpatine to "reward" his close friend and apprentice Vader. I realize the article already states this, but it seems that the person named 'Executor' was the de facto second-in-command of the Galactic Empire as well as the de facto commander-in-chief of the Imperial military, while the official person second to the Emperor might have been the Grand Vizier, Sate Pestage, or someone else. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Executor is most probably not an official magistrate position within the government of the Galactic Empire. This post may also coincide with the powers of 'Supreme Commander of Imperial forces', which might be why Luke Skywalker was called "Supreme Commander" in the Dark Empire comic-book series. Thoughts?--SOCL 20:47, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)

• Well, as for this title, whether it was an official military position (since three people held it) or just a rewarded position for Palpatine's leading right hand men (Vader, then Sedriss and Nist) is unsure. SOCL here brings up many good points here. As discussed on the Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet talk page, it appears that the Galactic Empire's "Executor" position is in fact a very similar (if not the same) position equivalent to that of the Remnant's Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet position. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:08, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • Right. It's possible that under the Palpatine-era regime the posts of Executor and Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet existed at the same time, tiered so as to put Executor above the other. But as we know, after Daala took command of the Empire and its forces, she effectively became Executor and Empress (holding those powers), but under the title of Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet. Pellaeon would come to have these same powers, but relinquished many of them somewhere between Darksaber and Specter of the Past, probably to bolster the image that he was a legitmate commander and not a warlord while still retaining enough power to correct any situations. In some ways, one could say that the post of Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet under Daala and Pellaeon are the descendants of the post of Executor but with the same name of a lesser position from much earlier on. Even so, I don't think it's right to say that anyone whose Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet is also Executor and vice versa despite the fact a case can be made concerning Daala and Pellaeon...--SOCL 23:24, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
• I agree. It does seem that the post-Palpatine Empire position of "Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet" not only had the power of the position of the same name in the Palpatine reign, but it also had more of the leadership powers of that of the Executor position. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:26, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
• There is one thing however, in ANH, Grand Moff Tarkin said "Vader release him" and Vader replied "As you wish." Now it dose seem kinda funny that the so-called de facto second-in-command of the Galactic Empire as well as the de facto commander-in-chief of the Imperial military would be spoken to like that? Any thoughts? Windscar 06:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Tarkin was a Grand Moff. He was a government leader, not so much a military leader. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 19:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Still waiting for proofEdit

Still no answer to my question of 11th September 2005, so I've thrown up a {{sources}} banner in the hope of encouraging one. We know about the two Executors who appear in turn after Luke ceases to be Supreme Commander, and I'm sure there's some sort of canon evidence that Vader held the post; but I'm still waiting to know what the source is for the specific statements about Vader's use of the rank, and the claim that the Star Destroyer Executor took its name from the position:

The original and most well-known Executor was Darth Vader, who served from the Empire's formation in 19 BBY until both his and Palpatine's deaths at the Battle of Endor in 4 ABY. It was from Vader's position that his flagship, the Executor, got its name.

Thanks! --McEwok 17:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

• Well, "the claim that the Star Destroyer Executor took its name from the position" would be pretty obvious if Vader held the title. Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 20:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

• Would it? The Imperator doesn't take its name from Palpatine's position. The name Executor could be a traditional one for warships, comparable with Exactor and Executrix. --McEwok 15:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, but that's also a possibility. But the fact that two Executors were being constructed must have a meaning. Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 17:32, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Must it? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that people hearing about the Star Destroyer Executor will think of Vader's role as "Executor"; but I'd still like to know what the sources are for Vader's tenure of the rank, and if there isn't a direct canon statement, then I feel the connection between the rank and the ship's name shouldn't be stated so bluntly. --McEwok 16:32, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Well, we could always put it in the Behind the scenes section with something like "Darth Vader could have also named his Star Dreadnought Executor after his rank". Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 16:37, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Hmm... I don't know if it even needs to be "Behind the scenes". And I still prefer Super Star Destroyer as a term for Executor, or even better a compromise like "flagship" or even the canon "command ship". But most important of all, I'm still waiting for further sources on Vader's tenure of the post of Executor! --McEwok 09:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

• I could have sworn I rembered reading that Vader was Supreme Commander and Executor in The Essential Guide to Characters, but I can't seem to find my copy. I think it was in Vader's bio if anyone else has it. -- SFH 10:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
  • "And I still prefer Super Star Destroyer as a term for Executor'". Too bad, McEwok. You don't make up canon. It's a Star Dreadnought. Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 18:59, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, SFH! And, Nebulax, just for ther record - the term "ultimate Star Dreadnought" is AFAIK used once for Ex; I never said it wasn't canon, but the reason I prefer "Star Destroyer" is that it's the oldest, best-known, and most common canon term for the ship. Given that there's a dispute among fans, however, I was suggesting we use a neutral term like "command ship" for the passing reference in this article. Any problem with that? --McEwok 09:48, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

• I suppose that's fine. Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
• EDITED: I've only heard of "enforcer" (on the OS), can't remember any source with "executor". VT-16 19:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
  • VT-16, as much as I agree with you, this really isn't the place for what you're saying. Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I'll moderate it. I've also checked my 1995 Essential Guide to Characters, and there's nothing there about "executor", just another mention of "enforcer". VT-16 20:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
      • I'll check The New Essential Guide to Characters in a little bit. Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

LukeEdit

Should Luke be included as an Executor? Didn't he hold the rank in DE? HavetStorm 20:26, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

• No, he was a Supreme Commander. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 22:03, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Full TitleEdit

Where did those other versions come from ? Imperial Executor sounds like a replacement for Grand Vizier and Darkside Executor sounds like the title for the second banana Dark Lord. (i.e., apprentice) Jedi Wolf 8:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• I'm pretty sure they're from Dark Empire. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 02:16, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Moffs Edit

What is the chain of command? How did Tarkin command Vader in ANH? I've seen in several sources Vader subordinate to Tarkin. --Blade of Corellia 12:02, 11 February 2007 (Eastern)

• Tarkin was in charge of the Death Star, so when Vader came aboard, he fell under Tarkin's command. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 15:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • That's the IU explanation. More prosaically, Lucas originally intended Vader to be Tarkin's enforcer or something like that, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was true in some of the early comics and other EU sources, too. You might say his canon position was an early retcon. Evir Daal 10:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Vader Edit

Is there any direct evidence that Darth Vader held the title of Executor? -LordSander 17:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• If there is, I'm not aware of it. - JMAS 18:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  • It *might* be mentioned in Dark Empire, when Sedriss is first named as Executor. I think I can remember a wider description of the title made at this point, and Vader mentioned. However I'm not too sure of that, and won't have the comic at hand for some time. Can somebody who has it check? Gorthuar 22:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
    • You may be right. I'll need to check later. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 00:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Any luck in finding an answer to this inquiry? - Lord CTC

I thought Vader was definitely referred to as "Military Executor". I'm going to reread Dark Lord and the Original Trilogy novelizations to find a source, if it's in one of those.68.164.200.22 17:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Darth Vader Edit

Can someone please tell me why in this article, Vader isn't mentioned, but in the Galactic Civil War article, he is mentioned in the infobox as "Executor Darth Vader". Should I add it to the article?--VideoGamePower 17:52, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

• No. No one on Wookieepedia has yet to produce a proper source as proof that Darth Vader ever canonically held this rank. As far as I'm concerned, this is popular recurring fanon, most likely inspired by the fact that his ship was named thus. Just because you find something on another article on this wiki does not mean it's correct. That should be removed from the Galactic Civil War article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)