Talk:Force Healing
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Should we keep a note that the Exile in the Image may or may not be Canon? ((In terms of Apperence not Gender i know Female is Canon)) we cant be sure which head is Canon for her. or someone could upload one of her useing Force Sight and heal at the same time Valin "Tnu" "Shido" Suul 23:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Changed it.--Domlith 10:08, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- Why don't we just put the Bariss Image as the main one? It's better anyway. (Ulicus 15:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC))
- What is the dark side variant called? It says Force Heal but i figured that was a type-o.
[edit] Telekinesis variation?
According to Champions of the Force, Cilghal's healing of Mon Mothma is described as Cilghal pulling out the virus particles one by one from the cells of the ex-president. In my view this is a miniature-version of telekinesis, and should be mentioned as part of the healing techniques applied by the Jedi.--Domlith 10:08, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] An EU Truth?
While this power is extensively used throughout the EU, it does not actually appear anywhere in the canon films. As I've stated elsewhere, and I believe it bears repeating, if the Jedi can heal themselves and others as in the EU, then Anakin's turn to the Dark Side is completely umotivated. He could have simply taken Padme to Jedi Healers! Instead, Yoda tells Anakin that such powers are based in the Dark Side, specifically in the fear of loss and death. The Jedi does not fear death and therefore will not stand in its way. Sidious further reinforces Yoda's assertion with one of his own: that the Dark Side can indeed save lives and that the Jedi consider such powers to be "unnatural." This is a very important idea in ROTS. Anakin has always had trouble letting go, from the time we first meet him to the very end where the "weakness" motivates him to save Luke's life. He's a clingy kinda guy! Furthermore, if every Jedi in the known universe runs around healing themselves and others, as in the EU, then why did two of the greatest Jedi in the history of the order stand by and watch Padme die? Where is all that Force Healing? If they can heal themselves, then why didn't Qui Gon Jin? He was a great enough master to discover a way back from death, but not so good as to discover the healing arts? For that matter, where are all the Jedi Healers at Geonosis, Kashyyk (sp?), the Jedi Temple, etc? Why did Obi Wan not heal Zam Wessell, whom they needed to live? The only Force-based healing we ever see is the insinuation of Sith healing (not a lot of fun from the look of it) when Sidious heals Vader. I love the EU. I even think the healing power makes for a essential one in video games (it is when I play them, Heaven help those poor pixels), but I'm sorry: it is not a power appearing in the canon universe, and if it is, it does not belong to the Jedi. By all accounts in all 6 movies, the Jedi rely strictly on convential medical techniques. Starwarsgm
- Yoda said or at least what he meant was that "stopping someone from dying" is based in the Dark Side, the Jedi consider it "unnatural" to keep someone that "should die." There are some wounds that can't be healed using the light side of the Force and listening to the will of the Force, a Sith does what he wants... he "uses" the Force for his own benefit while the Jedi listen to the will of the Force and "use" it to defend and keep peace. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 18:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I see what you're saying and I see the difference you make. However, there is still absolutely no evidence in the films to support healing as a Jedi power. Given that the only time such a power is even discussed it is implied to be an example of the Dark Side (by way of the fear of death), I still feel that Lucas' Jedi philosophy forbids them from using their powers to interrupt any process of death, including sickness and poisons. After all, if midi-chlorians are the bacteria present in all things, then they would logically also be the cause of all sickness. Jedi may not get sick because of their community with them. Conversely, killing a disease could then be seen as a direct attack on the "messengers" of the Force. I guess what I'm saying is that I see your point, but I still believe healing is Dark Side. Except when I'm playing video games...Starwarsgm
[edit] Light Side Force Healers
Some good points have been made as to whether or not canonical appearances of Force Healing should be considered out of context with the events of ROTS. After all, if healing were a Jedi art, then why would Anakin bother stressing visions of Padme's death? Personally, I believe the answer is that she could not have been saved; Anakin's visions were of her dying, after all. To heal her would be an affront the Unifying Force, and Yoda knew this. Also, consider bacta, or even simple bandages. Jedi use these tools all the time, and why not? If a Jedi gets stabbed, does he just roll over and die simply because bacta and/or a bandage would be "unnatural"? Of course not! To me, the bottom line is that all Light Side applications of Force Healing that I've seen have been limited, and only the Dark Side has been able to bring subjects back from the very brink of death. Light Side Force Healing seems to be a way to supplement actual medical attention, whereas the Dark Side allows access to several variations that allow full healing without so much as a band-aid, let a lone bacta.