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[edit] The Term "Force Power"

The d6 SW RPG First Edition already calls these "force powers", so the paragraph in "behind the scenes" about the name being derived from a a computer game is wrong. I´ll leave it up to someone more versed in this to edit it, i just say my side here.

( Gorsh, unsigned )


Since the distinction between Light and Dark is chaotic, repetitive and (in the case of games) inconsistent, I propose to make a separate article about each one. This will allow to extensively discuss any problems or inconsistencies and also details about various levels etc (like in Weapons of Star Wars). This page will have only the links, with brief descriptions. 62.74.4.240 19:49, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I suggest marking powers as "universal" whenever there is a contradiction between games (universal/light, universal/dark or light/dark). Safer that way. - Sikon 10:53, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
  • seems to me that alot of this stuff is just an interpretation of game mechanics. HavetStorm

[edit] More on Force Flight

I propose that this be moved to Core powers. Just because a chunk of the only known users are Dark Side does not make this a dark side power... LordSolus 00:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I suppose I agree with that... Darth Sarge 21:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Force Flight is in the new Saga Edition rulebook as a talent of the Dathomiri Witches suggesting that it's not limited to Dark Side users and thusly could be considered Universal.

[edit] Preminitions

Do we have an article on preminitions, like Force Vision or Force Preminition? Because if we do not, we may have a serious problem. -- SFH 22:11, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Typo

Did you guys know that you put Thought bomb in twice?? LordRevan 02:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Which power would this be?

Which Force power is the ability to pick stuff up and hover it around? Would that just be TK? Kuralyov 18:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other Powers of The Force

Has anyone noticed these "2nd powers" of the Force? For example, couldn't TK be used to make yourself fly? And isn't Battle Precognition natural for Jedi? Please give more examples. DarkWarlock999

  • Yeah, Dooku did it in Clone Wars, and I always assumed Yoda's hover platform was Force fuelled rather than mechanical. And I remember Vader doing it in the RotJ SNES video game, if that is canonical any more.
  • In Star Wars Tales of the Jedi Book #2 Dark Lords of the Sith, Near the End in a Test run of Star Saber attack ships, Dace Diath crashes and uses what the book says the Jedi power of Levitation. So here is documented proof.
  • The ROTJ NES game should never have been canon, since it almost certainly contradicts the film.

[edit] What the heck!

201.248.243.22 made a hole bunch of carzy hole changes that need to be fixed! If some one can fix this problem that would be great.p

[edit] Is force kill in KOTOR another name for force crush?

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It's a more advanced version of choke, but it does essentially the same thing. It's not official until another source deems it so. So yeah,, until proven otherwise, it is. Darth AnxorSith Order 02:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Farsight - Core Power?

Farsight is listed under Core Powers - that everybody learns. Excerpt from description: "Farsight was a rare Force ability."

This seems contradictory.

Also, Force Valor (Light Side) = Enhance Ability (Neutral) The descriptions are equal, and state that Force Valor is a light side ability.

The help page said something about people liking positive feedback, so I will also use this opportunity to say that the Wookiepedia as a whole, and this page, is an excellent resource. It is true!

Kormac 17:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Force Fight

How is it even possible for non-force users to defeat force users in one on one combat [armed or unarmed] because couldn't a jedi just lift em in the air be fore they could do anything just like in force choke.


Even if the jedi were to battle in an unarmed fight against a non-force user, they could see what the opponents next move is anyways. Therefore the Jedi or Sith have the upper-hand, but because of carelessness or something of the sort it is possible for a Jedi to lose unarmed combat. --Jedi Mike 19:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


There are intracacies to unarmed combat you might not be aware of. The battle pregognition of a Jedi or Sith is not always infalliable and dosen't just appear instantly before every attack. It comes in spurts at times, and even If a Jedi is skilled at unarmed combat, his opponant may be a very skilled and experienced Martial Artist, who may even possess greater speed, and closely matched reflexes.

There are several instances in the SW universe which highlight this fact. One such is the time Jango Fett took on a group of Jedi Knights and went beserk, killing them all with his bare hands. Traditionally, Mandalorian warriors are not Force-Sensitive at all, but that dosen't stop them from rivaling the Jedi in hand-to-hand combat.--The truth hurts... 00:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other Powers

I'm putting these two together in this section only because I noticed their absence.

There were two force powers I didn't see listed at all, so I put them in.

First was what I termed "Transfer Mind". Callista did this to transfer her personage to the ship, and then to the body of that other Jedi Lady. The emperor reborn did this all the time to get into clone bodies.

The second was "cut off from the force". This is another one I made up the name for, but it seems sensible enough. The Yuuzhan Vong homeworld apparently did this to the Vong, and I believe it has happened to others as well.

These should be there, and I didn't know enough to write them Serendipitousus 22:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What power

What was the name of the power used in Balance Point by the dark jedi (forgot the name haven't read it in awhile) that she used to create beams and slice the Vong shaper up?

  • It's Star By Star, not Balance Point, and her name is Lomi Plo. But I have no idea what the power is.--Amican 18:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Force powers

Is it theoretically possible to use the force to rip someones arm off? Also is it possible to use 2 force powers at the same time? 159.250.23.2 16:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I believe that theoretically it is, just move his arm and his body in different direction. Using 2 different force powers at the same time would all depend on the users strength in the force. I seem to recall at least a few books where a Jedi was force deflecting blaster bolts and opening doors at the same time. Darth Sarge 01:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

As I do most of my editing from work where the site is mostly paperless I cannot add the sources myself, nor do I know all of them, but if someone could put in KoTOR and KoTOR 2 and many of the other games that would cover most of our sources, as well as the roleplaying books and guides exspecially for the Wizards of the coast D20 system Darth Sarge 02:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I added all of the sources I thought might have the information so if any of them are incorrect feel free to edit Darth Sarge 03:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Force Empathy?

Is it just me, or are Force Empathy and Pyschometry the same thing? I read their articles and they share most of the same points. Rymmeli Throhn 21:29, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

  • I agree with that, perhaps the two should be merged? Cuine100 13:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More force powers?

I was browsing Category:Force powers and found a heck of a lot of powers not listed here. Should I add links from them to this article? Or should I not worry about it. Cuine100 13:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Force Resuscitation

I believe this should be removed from the list until it's light/dark side alignment can be determined. Though its effects seem to echo the light side, its motivations stem from selfishness and attachment which are paths to the dark side. Wolf hints at this and Cade acknowledges it. I will give it one week and then remove it if no logical, valid arguments are presented. Micah Giett 01:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mind Trick?

In Kotor2 when you make force persuasion you get dark side shiftment. Is it a dark or light side power?

That depends on how it is used, but in all instances it is listed as a Light side power. Jedi would use it to avoid combat, whereas Sith would use it for personal gain. However, if a Sith wanted something, he'd probably use violence instead. Anyway, Light sided. Jorlyn Gunnar 19:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Potentium?

This article is written as if Potentium is so.

"The Power of the Jedi Sourcebook states that the Potentium is a corrupt, misguided philosophy, and is the first canonical source to confirm this."

This article is fundamentally in-correct. Wile I am not against having the potentium views in the article, they should be alongside the conventional (and canonical) view, with the potentium labeled as such. (- -) 00:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missed a few.

You guy's missed a few Force Powers from this list:

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[edit] Core powers/darkside/lightside/universal VS Sense/Control/Alter

I think the RPG-based Sense/Control/Alter dividing would be better, becouse the folloving:

What is the source of term: core force?

Most of the powers can be used both sides, only few are strictly dark or light.

The other grouping doesn't have the uncertainity of purpose. Darth Morrt 20:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

  • I think the dark/light powers are only game mechanism. For eample i don't think Luke used the dark side by Choking the gamorreans. The forse can be light or dark sided by the purpose, but most of the powers can be used by either side of the force. So there is no need for side-based separation of force powers. I would like to change it to RPG stile Sense/Alter/Control, because it has a better logic, but I'm waiting for some agree. Darth Morrt 11:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
    • So, as you see, I made the changes I would have liked. I've put all powers from this article to one of the areas. I've left the core/dark /light/universal powers, but i think they sould be modified to stricktly dark or light, and the universal deleted later. In my opinion universal powers term is a game mechanics of Kotor games. There are dark/light sides of the force (in don't agree with Lucas but i should), but there are not dark/light powers. It the matter of purpose. Please don't remake my changes whitout a word. Darth Morrt 21:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Torpedo

I remember there being a dark side force power that completley destroyed everything in it's path and the creator put it in a torpedo. What happened to it?

[edit] Teleport

Isn't there a Force power that allows teleportation? --Xepeyon You Speak, I've Spoken 02:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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