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"First Galactic Empire" vs "Galactic Empire" Edit

I do realize that the name "Galactic Empire" is very solidly established OOU, but I wonder if the more official name of that regime (from an IU perspective) shouldn't be "First Galactic Empire" instead. The encyclopedia does use it a few times (three times actually) and, more importantly, that's how Palpatine called his own regime during the declaration of a New Order. Should we move the page? --Lelal Mekha Old Republic military symbol (Audience Room) 02:05, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Reorganized into the First Order? Edit

I see them as separate entities, not as the Empire reorganized. The First Order may be made up of former Imperial officers, and they may be inspired by it in many ways, even using a similar style, but I don't think that means the Empire became the FO. It's still very unclear. Reddyredcp (talk) 05:06, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

    • The First Order was formed from remnants of the Empire, but not completely reorganized. I am sure, and I get the sense, that the Empire and various other remnant states exist. The First Order is merely one of several, albeit the most dangerous. Darth Ravigious (talk) 20:15, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

More Imperial Factions by the Force Awakens Edit

Just wanted to state that Pablo Hidalgo answered a question on twitter asking if the Imperial government was still around by the time of The Force Awakens. He said that the Empire was split into various remnant factions and factions inspired by the Empire besides the First Order by the time of Episode VII. This should be stated in the article, in my own opinion. Darth Ravigious (talk)

  • I think we should wait an in-universe material about the matter. All will become much clear, possibly in Aftermath: Empire's End. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 16:14, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
    • Before we go into detail, I agree, but here's something we could say at the very end. "Although the Empire had collapsed in the years following the Battle of Jakku, small independent remnant factions remained after the Empire's fragmentation, although they were of little threat to the much more widespread New Republic." Darth Ravigious (talk)
      • I think there's a bit too much extrapolation in that version (specifically the "of little threat" part). I'd say something like "After the collapse of the centralized Galactic Empire, small Imperial remnants still remained active in the galaxy, some of which were compromised of sectors looking for independence." Then the article could follow that up with information about the First Order. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 17:26, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
        • I like that better. And it could bridge to the First Order by starting the next paragraph by saying something like "Perhaps the most organized of these splinter factions was the First Order, a military junta established by former Imperial leaders who fled into the Unknown Regions following the conclusion of the Galactic Civil War." Or, possibly, some information from Bloodline could be incorporated, talking about how many of the centrists wished for the Republic to join forces with former Imperial leaders and adopt their ideological stances in terms of how they relate to the centralization of power and military might. The Centrists were essentially neocons. Darth Ravigious (talk) 17:31, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

Grand Moff Randd - Self Appointed? Edit

In the article, it says "Self-appointed Grand Moffs such as Valco Pandion, Randd and other military leaders began to jockey for power". I think I have read through all of the canon material involving Randd, the Grand Moff of the Exterior, and I don't recall it ever being mentioned that he was self-appointed, unlike Pandion. Was it said in Lost Stars? I don't quite remember what was said of him in that novel. MmmmNapalm (talk) 19:13, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

  • I think you're right. In Aftermath: Life Debt, it sounded like he had been serving in the position for a while. I would change it, so that it's just Pandion who was self appointed, as Randd was part of the Shadow Council, and not really in a position to seek power, with Rae Sloane and Gallius Rax looking over him. --Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 19:21, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

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