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Non-canonEdit

Non-canon. Chee said so: [1].DarthMRN 10:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• No, Chee very specifically did not state that it was non-canon. He said that Yoda had never been to Dagobah before, so that part is non-canon...but he then went on to say that Minch was not part of Yoda's name. Read that over for a second, and you can see that he's said that the Jedi is not Yoda, and that Yoda did not go to Dagobah...not that the story is non-canon in any way. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 10:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
  • As answer to a direct question of whether Heart of Darkness is non-canon, he says: "That part is non-canon". At best a debatable point. But I guess the question comes down to whether Heir to the Empire describe the exact same story taking place during the Clone Wars, in which case I would be inclined to agree. The tales comics are ambig to begin with, so when Chee makes a statement like that, I have a hard time seeing how you can be so sure of yourself.DarthMRN 10:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
    • And since we certainly have no confirmation on Minch having been a separate character, and a fair deal of evidence to the contrary, it easily goes under conjecture on your part.DarthMRN 10:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
      • We don't have confirmation of a character with a different name being a different character? A character who was still a padawan during 700 BBY, when Yoda was 200 years old, and went to Dagobah when Yoda didn't go there until the Clone Wars? Chee didn't state that "That part is non-canon" in reference to the story itself...he said it in relation to the character in the story being Yoda. People have merely assumed that this character is Yoda because he fights a Bpfasshi Dark Jedi on Dagobah...but the placement for the story is wrong (as Yoda was meant to have done it during the Clone Wars) and, other than him being the same species as Yoda, there's no indication of it being Yoda...indeed the personality is completely wrong. Also, it's entirely possible that Heir to the Empire was simply mistaken as, if I remember rightly, the part about Yoda going to Dagobah was written from an IU perspective and so isn't infalliable. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 11:13, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
        • Okay, I'll try to go over this in my head, mostly for my own benefit:
        • 1) Yoda didn't go to Dagobah until the Clone Wars. 2) The The New Essential Guide to Alien Species says there are only three members of Yoda's species in canon: Yoda, Yaddle, Vandar Tokare. 3) Chee says non-canon. 4) You claim this is in reference to the alien not being Yoda, but a separate character named Minch. Which goes against aforementioned NEGAS info. 5) My assumption: It has to be Yoda to fit with estabished canon, something Chee denies by saying Yoda's name isn't Minch. In my interpretation, this can only be solved (barring a retcon) by this story, which is ambigous to begin with, being non-canon. So explain it to me, please.DarthMRN 11:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
          • Well even if we discount Minch being a possiblity, the New Essential Guide to Alien Species is still wrong...there's at least one more member of the species, an unnamed being who was a member of the Army of Light as seen in this picture which shows the monument to the Jedi who lost their lives during the Battle of Ruusan. This can't be Yoda, as he wasn't alive at the time...it can't be Vandar as he's dead by that time...and it can't be Yaddle, as she wasn't even trained to be a Jedi by that point (indeed, she was trained long after Yoda), so that throws that argument out the window I'm afraid.
          • I agree that Yoda didn't go to Dagobah before the Clone Wars though...it's a piece of canon that I dislike, but I accept it...as I said...this member of the species is never stated to be Yoda, that's merely an interpretation by fans.
          • And again...Chee did not say that it was non-canon...he said that "that part of it" was non-canon, just after he had talked about Yoda never going to Dagobah. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 12:04, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
            • Okay, re-reading Chee's post in light of what you have told me, I admit defeat. But this would also put an end to any merge between Minch and Yoda, on Minch's talk page.DarthMRN 12:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
              • To be honest, I've never been happy with the thought of a merge between Minch and Yoda...as you can see from my above comments. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 12:35, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Parsec MishapEdit

On a different note that the "is-minch-yoda-and-when-did-he-arrive-on-dagobah-the-first-time" issue, I am surprised that no one has noticed that the author use "parsec" as a unit of time (page 6, last panel) like in A New Hope. Although the mistake in Hope was retconed by saying that Han Solo chose a shorter route, closer to the event horizon of the Maw's black holes. To do so his ship had to be very fast, which is what the Millennium Falcon is. This explanation does not apply to the use of "parsec" in Heart of Darkness. Perhaps this instance of the misuse of "parsec" as a unit of time was not retconed due to to the dubious cononicality of the story, supporting the notion that it is not in fact canon. 24.240.32.34 01:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC) His Steinness

• Whoa, that's quite a leap. Of logic. VT-16 02:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)