Talk: Hostage Crisis

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Trailer[]

When one is watching the first commercial break for The Innocents of Ryloth, you see Onaconda Farr, Bail Organa, Orn Free Taa, a Gran senator (Ask Aak or Kharrus) and many other senators too vaguely pictured to recognize. Should we add them, and if so, how do you source that? Lucius malfoy7 16:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)The Gran senator can't be Kharrus,he died in episode 12.--Typhuss 00:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you are correct about Kharrus dying. However, this episode may take place before The Gungan General. Also, please enter and use a bullet point if you would like to respond in a conversation.Lucius malfoy7 17:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)The Gran senator was not Kharrus,his name was not said during the episode.--Typhuss 11:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, we know now that it is a senator named Philo- see the episode guide's Trivia; it names all the senators. Also, please enter and use a bullet point if you would like to respond in a conversation. Lucius malfoy7 12:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
The promo includes Bane, Aurra Sing, Robonino and two other bounty hunters; Anakin, Palpatine and Padmé; Riyo Chichu, Farr, Bail Organa, Orn Free Taa, Kharrus (this episode might take place before gungan general). Want proof? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePM85UOyVFE —Unsigned comment by Kitfistofan93 (talk • contribs).
- It's still not the best source to use, and since it's a video, the characters are rather hard to distinguish, since they only appear for about a second, even though you can pause the video. --CC7567 ^talk 10:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I just went and organized it according to this source. I'm only organizing it because it was brought up; I'm not sure if this source is reliable myself. Please discuss that here, because I'm not completely sure of whether we can use a YouTube video as a source. --CC7567 ^talk 10:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
  - Personally, I wouldn't use a youtube video as a source, as many are fanon are unreliable, though I think we can use it for this one as it was a canonical TV spot made into a youtube video for the web. Lucius malfoy7 14:27, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

A few other things... Where is the source for Ziro the Hutt and Ask Aak... Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ziro isn't in the video or the article, and the Gran is either Kharrus or Ask Aak. In addition, you see the possible appearance of Gidean Danu's back in the cluster of senator's in the video. Should we add it as a possible appearance, or wait until the episode to see about the other characters. Lucius malfoy7 21:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Removed it. And I think it would be better to wait until a source directly confirms the others' appearances, because the others are somewhat unrecognizable. --CC7567 ^talk 23:16, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
So we're gonna go with Gidean Danu in this episode. I will agree that Danu's clothes are in the episode, but it looks more like a small asian man wearing them. Kinda confused. Greekpimp - Talk 05:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess so. In addition, you see an Ithorian senator. Should we add Tendau Bendon? Lucius malfoy7 19:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Shahana Alama[]

He is the Weequuay bounty hunter. I changed it but somebody deleted it (Why? there are 5 bounty hunters. 1 is Cad Bane, 1 is Aurra Sing, 1 is Robonino, 1 is an IG-86/IG-88 model --> only one left is Shahana Alama) —Unsigned comment by Kitfistofan93 (talk • contribs).

I agree with you, I do believe that Shahana will be the Weequay, but we should wait until an official source confirms it before we start making assumptions. Lucius malfoy7 18:05, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the guy's gender isn't even confirmed. --CC7567 ^talk 18:48, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately for you CC7567, it is. He is the one who says: "the jedi is unarmed in the trailer". doesn't sound like a female voice to me! —Unsigned comment by Kitfistofan93 (talk • contribs).
- It's still a matter of words rather than trusting our senses. I just believe it's more speculation than fact until it's written in words on an official source. --CC7567 ^talk 18:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, it is speculation, so we should keep it off the page. And Kitfistofan38, just a friendly note: you sign your name using four tildes (~ ~ ~ ~) without the spaces. Lucius malfoy7 18:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
  - That's strange, it's actually Kitfistofan93 instead of 38, although is does say so indeed. Oh, mr. Malfoy --> Kitfistofan93 19:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey guys the episode guide actually says it is Shahan Alama, and not Shahana Alama, so without the a. Kitfistofan93 06:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Fox[]

Seriously...unless you can provide a source that says Fox appears, please don't add him just yet. --CC7567 ^talk 18:48, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Additionally, I'm removing "Clone" from the species. I believe it was there only because of Fox. Lucius malfoy7 23:44, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- No, I believe the clone troopers themselves are confirmed, just not specifically Fox. --CC7567 ^talk 02:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
  - If you watch the video that's linked here pause it right before Padme and Anakin kiss one of the 4 clones shooting is Fox.--67.35.70.194 12:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
    - Yup, he's at the end shooting at Bane. Oh and just to throw in my two cents, I think this is officially the first time we've seen a hostage get capped Admiral Goeth style on Cartoon Network. DjMack 01:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Senate commando Captain[]

Seeing as we have entries for the "Unidentified" droids in the control room, it is only fitting we have one for the captain of the senate commandos as well. He actually has a few lines. —Unsigned comment by 71.232.38.163 (talk • contribs).

I guess so; you are free to make a page if you want to. Please create a user and sign your name using four tildes (~~~~)to sign your name if you would like to leave a message on talk pages. Lucius malfoy7 20:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- It could just be me, but I would say that you should change Senate Guard to Senate Commando. They were wearing the Senate commando armor that Faro Argyus was wearing, and he was a senate commando. Just a thought...--Trask1138 20:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

WED unit[]

Why isn't the Unidentified WED unit (Republic Senate) listed in droid models. I'd add it myself but the page is locked - Ayrehead 02 11:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

It's listed under Characters. Only models go in the other section, although there should be another entry for the model, which I'll add now. --Eyrezer 11:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks (Ayrehead 02 11:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC))

IG-86 assassin droids[]

This is probably quite trivial, but er, the StarWars.com episode synopsis calls the IG-86s "assassin droids", and so does the IG-series page. Should there be any attention placed on this? The Clone Wars Campaign Guide does call them "sentinel droids" though. I was just talking about this on IG-86's talk page. I acknowledge that this is probably quite insignificant, though.--Secretss 09:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Again, as I mentioned on the Battle of Christophsis talk page, please do not use Wookieepedia articles as sources for other articles. The Visual Guide identifies them as sentinel droids; therefore, they're sentinel droids. StarWars.com doesn't necessarily always use official names. CC7567 ^(talk) 15:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Fox[]

I think it is Fox. The clone in Hostage crisis has the exact same armor as Fox. Who else would it be? —Unsigned comment by 208.102.7.165 (talk • contribs).

We've already been over this many other times with many other people. Unless it is stated in words, and nothing less, that it was Fox who appeared, he didn't appear. As for who else it could be? There were more than a million clones at the time; just because Fox appeared before as the commander of the Coruscant Guard doesn't mean that was him. CC7567 ^(talk) 18:35, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

So what happened to those commando droids?[]

They disguised themselves as Senate Guards early on, and then were never seen again. They didn't leave with Bane and Ziro. Were they found out when the clones stormed the Senate Hall? Or are they still hiding amongst the ranks of the Senate Guards? SinisterSamurai 20:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

We don't know. CC7567 ^(talk) 20:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- That is wack. Not whickity wack, just the regular type. SinisterSamurai 03:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
  - If you can't find an answer in watching the same episode, chances are that there isn't an answer. CC7567 ^(talk) 06:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Guards[]

Who were the clone prison guards? Were they clone troopers, or were they a special type of clones for guarding prisoners and prisons, or OPS troopers stuck with the dirty work. Tinminer 14:40, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

They could be battle droids as far as I can see. They look like normal Coruscant guard troopers, though. And btw, this isn't the place to discuss it. Xd 14:44, February 16, 2010 (UTC)