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Knights on the Council Edit

As I recall, it is a known fact that Ki-Adi-Mundi was a Knight at the time of Episode I—the only one of that rank on the Council at the time. Anakin stated in Episode III that no one had ever been put on the Council and not made a Master, but I took this to be an error on his part, hyperbole because of his pride and indignance. Has the fact about Ki-Adi-Mundi been retconned, or was Anakin just spewing hot air? – Aidje talk 05:30, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

  • The official word from Leland Chee - Ki-Adi-Mundi was in the process of becoming a Master when the Battle of Naboo occurred. QuentinGeorge 06:18, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
    • So the new 'truth' is that Anakin was indeed the first to not be made a Master? – Aidje talk 07:00, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
      • Yep. Officially, Anakin was the first-Non-Master, and any incidents where Ki-Adi-Mundi calls himself a "mere knight" are just the duffy conehead being modest. QuentinGeorge 07:41, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Members being messed up (i think) Edit

I looked at the council members from the movies, and i can hardly believe that Ki-Adi-Mundi is a limited-term member. I'd guess he's a lifetime member, like Yoda, and Mace Windu.

  • I'd half to agree with you. It seems to me that he was the number three member of the Council actually. -- SFH 19:11, 13 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    • Believe it or not, that's what the EU established. QuentinGeorge 22:25, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)
      • Do you mean that Ki-Adi-Mundi being a short-term member was confirmed in the EU? I think we should rather think into it critically what we saw in the film, I don't think 12-13 years is short-term. - TopAce 10:55, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        • Yes, Ki-Adi-Mundi being a limited-term member is confirmed by the EU. It's hardly a problem, for all we know, 33 BBY to 19 BBY may very well be considered short term anyway. QuentinGeorge 12:23, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
          • Since the Old Jedi Order was misguided at the time, there was a kind of racism against Jedi Knights: No Knights on the Council. From the Dark Horse story Ki-Adi stars, you can see Yoda believes in him and it was he that backed him up to get a seat in the Council, but it must have been impossible to get him a lifetime membership since he wasn't a Master yet. Ki-Adi's a cool guy though, and he sort of became number three in the Council on his own right. My explanation... --Master Starkeiller 12:38, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
            • Ummm....no. There were NO knights on the Council before Anakin. NEVER. You did see, ROTS, yeah? PS That's got nothing to do with racism, as "Jedi Knight" is a rank, not a race. QuentinGeorge 12:40, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    • In terms of contradiction - I'd be more concerned about Yaddle - who served for a few centuries as a "limited term member". Maybe they kept renewing her term... QuentinGeorge 12:56, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
      • Ki-Adi became a Council member as a Jedi Knight. Check the comics. Anakin ommited to mention that in his outrage. Plus, I said "a kind of racism". --Master Starkeiller 13:06, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        • This has been retconned - Ki-Adi-Mundi was made Master upon joining the Council. And that isn't even "a kind of racism". QuentinGeorge 22:16, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
      • And Yaddle is the same species as Yoda. A limited term has to be a couple of centuries. --Master Starkeiller 13:13, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        • But in the Episode III Novel, Yoda, Mace Windu and Ki-Adi-Mundi discuss many things together, so i guess that Ki-Adi is one of the most important members of the Jedi Council, after Yoda and Mace Windu. Even some other members who have been in the Council since Episode I, like Plo Koon and Saesee Tiin aren't even allowed to join those meetings, so i guess Ki-Adi-Mundi is more important than either of those two. Master Secura
          • And i also think it would help a lot if we knew how long one term is. Master Secura
          • Well, even though Ki only joined the Council shortly before TPM, he had temporarily filled in on other occasions (thus explaining how he was in Council meetings in the Jedi Apprentice books--this retcon was in the Jedi Council: Acts of War comic), so he wasn't exactly a stranger to Council affairs even before being officially promoted. Also, he had been Yoda's Padawan (seen in Star Wars Republic: Prelude to Rebellion), so there could've been a little favoritism towards him on Yoda's end (although Yoda is supposed to be above such things).--Valin Kenobi 07:09, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
          • Although Ki-Adi talks alot, Plo holds a lifetime chair, so i would say that Plo is more important. Or Yoda and Mace only allowed Plo to have that seat because Plo's master wished it upon his death.G Vos 00:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)G_Vos

Appearances Edit

I'm not quite sure about the additions to the Appearances section. If you think the Dantooine Council doesn't count, move these two to Sources, as they mention the main Council on Coruscant. - Sikon [Talk] 18:41, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • This article isn't just about the High Council. QuentinGeorge 22:25, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Pic from Ep III Edit

A picture where the entire Council can be seen would be more useful, I think. - TopAce 10:56, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)

master tinn?Edit

Saeese wasn't on the council inlone wars chapter 21. in the words of the april fool, "whats up with that?!"

Sources for members Edit

Okay, what sources say T'un (who the hell is this guy, anyway?), Jocasta Nu, and Thame Cerulian were on the Jedi High Council? Lieutenant Gerard 19:08, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Saesee Tin was on the Council, it is even in a photo. As Homer would Say It, "DOH !".Master Mace

Separate ArticlesEdit

Shouldn't we have separate articles for the various Councils, with this page serving as more of an overview/disambig page for them? - Kwenn 19:59, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • I agree. There are a lot of Jedi Council's out there. Jedi Council itself should be turned into a disambig, while most of the info here moved over to Jedi High Council. -- SFH 20:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't think should should be a disambig. It seems like a solid historical overview right now. Would the other articles focus on membership? Do we have enough information to sustain those articles (with the exception of the Jedi Council from 40 BBY to 19 BBY)? Which ones would be created? --SparqMan 20:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
    • I believe the Reassignment Council is seen in Cloak of Deception, and I'm sure one of the comics visits the Council of First Knowledge. And yeah, I think there's enough info for separate pages. I didn't mean actually making this page a disambig, though; just a little moreso than it is now, with just a brief overview of each Council - Kwenn 23:35, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
      • We should be sure to maintain the general Jedi Council history though. --SparqMan 00:05, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, I've created separate pages for the four main Councils, with this page serving as an overview of them plus all other Councils in history. I think it needs to be cleaned up however, as my additions here were fairly hasty and meant only to be temporary - Kwenn 17:21, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Sourceless? Edit

  • Unless someone forgot to remove it, why is there the Additional Sources template on this article. There are 7 sources already listed, and they all cover the council at different time periods. DarthMaul431 23:19, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
    • You're right. I'm getting rid of it. --AdmThrawn 23:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Council members Edit

I think we should get a Befor 44 bby because they're masters who aren't up there yet in a Liftime or limited term member like Sifo-Dyas. We can't forget who took Oppo Rancississ seat and stuff.

Kind of sextets Edit

In the movies, there have not been many member that have been women on the High Jedi Council. Before you begin saying "your dumb, of course there have been." Think! Only Shaak Ti, Adi, Strasse, Jancasta, and some others. Theres like 2000 men that have been on it.

There's plenty of sexism (and even more racism) in the star wars universe. Maybe Lucas is trying to make a point about the state of the galaxy or maybe he's just a racist himself.

Well, their probably were more Jedi before the un cono articles, such as the beginings of the Old Jedi Order. ~


Who sits where? Edit

In PTM, the council goes:

* Plo
* Mace
* Yoda
* Ki
* Saesee
* Yaddle
* Even
* Oppo
* Adi 
* Yarael
* Eeth
* Depa

In AotC, the council goes:

* Plo
* Mace
* Yoda
* Ki
* Saesee
* Shaak
* Even
* Oppo
* Adi
* Coleman 
* Eeth
* Depa

In RotS, does it go:

* Plo
* Mace
* Yoda
* Ki
* Obi
* Agen
* Anakin
* Coleman
* Saesee
* Kit 
* Shaak
* Stass

I'm not sure, because it looks like Kit goes in Depa's seat and Saesee in Eeth's. Any ideas? Mastermundi 14:25, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

It vaguely sounds correct, I completed the list with full names. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 03:36, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

pics Edit

should we add this pic? File:star_wars_35.jpg Unsigned comment by Mas1@ (talk • contribs).

  • Unfortunately no, because it's fan art. Jeff Carlisle is an official Star Wars artist now, but back when he made this piece, he was just a fan. It's an awesome picture, and it's great work like this that got him hired in the first place, but we do have a policy here against fan art. Sorry. -- Ozzel 23:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Atris on Dantooine Edit

I removed the info about Atris in the Dantooine Council until someone confirms it. - Sikon [Talk] 07:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Councils Edit

If there are only five spires and four councils what is the other spire used for?

Origins? Edit

I am just curious if we have any record of the origins of the council? It is obviously a child of the prequels with few mentions in previous works. In the EU during the time of the Tales of the Jedi comics there did not seem to be a formal council. The masters would just get together when necessary like at the Assembly on Deneba or a few masters would offer advice to knights like before the mission to recover Ulic Qel-Droma. But the first permanent, formal council seems to have been created after the fall of Ossus during the Great Sith War. Is this correct or does someone have evidence of an earlier council?

Possible Omission Edit

I'm not quite certain, but it seems as if we're missing history of the council from Inferno to the Star Wars: Legacy series.—Darth MalevolousSith Emblem.svg(Through power I gain victory.) 22:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Raxus Prime Jedi Temple Council Edit

Should there be some sort of mention of the junk "mannequins of fallen Jedi Masters" that were found in the Raxus Prime Jedi Temple, constructed by Kazdan Paratus?--Maceo 06:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Last meeting of the Jedi Council Edit

Can we not try and get a bit more important info on the last meeting of the Jedi Council. Like what planet it was on, some of the attendees etc. --86.151.199.158 20:36, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

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