Contents 1 "Controlled settings" 2 The Specifics of Each of the Trials 3 This article needs more details. 4 Knighting phrase change to Quote 5 Pictures + KOTOR 6 NJO Trials 7 Failing Trials 8 1st paragraph 9 Luke's Failure 10 Merger 11 Trial of the Mind? 12 Individual Jedi Trials 13 Trial failure 14 Trial of Courage Example problem 15 Ahsoka's Trial of Spirit 16 Obi-Wan's Jedi Trials

"Controlled settings" Edit

Someone clear this up for me... How are the trials conducted in a controlled setting? On basically all of the examples for the trials they were in real-world settings. Also, how would the trial of the flesh even possibly be conducted in a controlled setting? What would they do for the flesh trial? Sadistically wound the padawan or kill someone close to them? Is there even a source for this "controlled settings" junk? Jedibob5 21:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Good question. I'm not really sure myself. The best know Jedi Trials (Anakin's, Luke's, and Malek's) varied. The Secret Apprentice's trials were mostly controlled by Vader. However Anakin and Luke's were real-world and not controlled. I think it has to do with the Jedi Master who is administrating them.--TheDoctor42 20:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Logic would suggest that the Order conducts most of its trials in a controlled setting because of well...reality and the real dangers of said reality. In terms of say Obi-wan for example his successful fight against Darth Maul was accepted as evidence of his skills and thus there was no need to test him on a subject he quite clearly showed he'd understood....in other words real world instances aren't formal but are known the less the best tests of one's skills. Basically I can't imagine the Council willingly and knowingly tossing Padawans at Sith Lords and "have at it"...so based on that it probably means that if it can be avoided the trials aren't designed to be lethal. Luke for example faced a droid dressed as Vader while studying under Yoda. This was intended to see whether or not Luke was trully ready to combat a Sith and the dark side both in the galaxy and within himself which is why Yoda give the Vader decoy Luke's face. Although Luke did not know it there is no way Yoda would have actually allowed him to be killed. Basically one can look at this as a foil to the way the Sith work, it re-enforces the differences between the two groups in that the Sith are more than willing to kill or have their apprentices killed. Jedi who do not even kill their own prisoners do not. In other words no Jedi would willingly all any being let alone their own apprentice to be sacrificed in the name of some test, they just would let. And there's the fact that one of the trials is by combat and there aren't always legions of Sith to fight so they wouldn't be able to even hold such a test, I mean who would they fight? Trials by flesh are not about physical wounds it's about whether or not the Padawan is faithful enough in their cause and through the force to be willing to risk their own lives. It is a test to see whether or not the apprentice trully understands that "there is no death there is only the force". All in all it is the Sith who require real world tests because they don't value the lives of their apprentices as much as the Jedi--Darkseid253 07:47, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

The Specifics of Each of the Trials Edit

In The Clone Wars microseries part II, I do happen to remember mention of what each trial was designed to test. I can't remember precisely what each of them was,though. I think the last one (Anakin's trial in the Cave on Nelvaan) was testing Anakin's "fight against his inner demons," so to speak, where the Jedi deals with inner conflict. I believe either Obi-Wan or Yoda was the one that said it. Can anyone affirm any of this?--Knightfall 23:13, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)

• I just added them. -- SFH 00:13, 23 Dec 2005 (UTC)

This article needs more details. Edit

There are two very important novels which include lots of information on the Jedi trials, 'MedStar' (I and II) and also 'Jedi Trial'. This page is very important, and I believe it should be very in-depth, and it's not. Perhaps it should be put in the 'Improvement Drive'. —Unsigned comment by Apprentice Anakin (talk • contribs).

I agree, those are the only sources we have on the jedi trials so they should be on there.it should be on the 'Improvement Drive'. —Unsigned comment by DarthNemesis (talk • contribs).

What on f*** is that all about 'if a Padawan turns to the Darkside a Jedi Shadow is assigned to kill him IF REQUIRED????? That is the biggest load of crap ever!

• I've never heard of anything like that and it sure doesn't fit my idea of the Jedi. Sounds a lot like fan stuff.

What doesn't make sense is the first trial. How were they given promotion to being a Jedi Knight during the post-Reformation period (the whole 1000 years before the Clone wars) if there weren't any Sith or (minimally) Dark Jedi? It can't just be a duel with a dark warrior.

• Example is Aayla Secura. She was made a Knight after battling the Morgukai warrior Bok on Kintan - Kwenn 16:26, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Does the Trial of Skill necessarily have to be a fight or can it be a simple test in lightsaber combat against another Jedi (nonlethal, obviously)?

• When Anakin mentioned that he was "ready for the trials" in Attack of the Clones, that suggests that the Trials are a controlled procedure, not chance events that occur (as was the case with Anakin and Luke). Any comment on that?

Knighting phrase change to Quote Edit

• I suggest converting the Knighting phrase (the "....i dub thee, Jedi, Knight of the Republic" phrase) into Quote format, either in the middle of the main article or at the top. Comment? Darth Kevinmhk 04:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Pictures + KOTOR Edit

• OK, so I know virtually nothing about Jedi Trials but I would like to help. Are there any pictures that we could use for this? At all? Maybe the Luke scenes from the movie at least? Also, I believe that in the new KOTOR comic there is going to be a flashback part the trial of Zayne, Shad, and their fellow Padawans. The issue was released yesterday, and I subscribe through the mail, so I should have it tomorrow or Saturday. I'll update with any information from there when I get it. - Breathesgelatin 04:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Speaking about KOTOR I, the trials Revan has to finish, have no relation to those ones. Why is then KOTOR I referenced in the Appearances section? MoffRebus 08:29, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
• In KotOR II, it is stated that the Jedi Exile was indeed a Knight when she left for the Mandalorian Wars - that bit needs to be corrected. Evidence: the Disciple mentions that he was to be assigned to be the Exile's Padawan, but when she left for the war he left the Jedi Order.--Goodwood 02:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

NJO Trials Edit

Anyone want to add the different tests and games Luke presents in the Joiner King to Formbi? --Razzy1319 08:06, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Failing TrialsEdit

What happens if one fails the trials?--64.231.167.68 22:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

If you fail a trial you will retake it when your skill improves.--TheDoctor42 20:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

1st paragraphEdit

• It seems that the first paragraph of this article describes the actual knighting ceremony that comes after the trials -shouldn't it be moved there?Tocneppil 22:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It's very confusing to call up a page looking for information about Jedi Trials, and start by reading the details of the knighting ceremony. Someone is liable to think that all it takes to become a Jedi is for someone to say the 'magic words' and cut off his braid. Some trial.

Luke's FailureEdit

How can Luke's experience in the Dark Side Cave be an example of passing the Trial of Spirit when Yoda says "remember your failure in the cave" when Luke is about to leave for Bespin? Yoda clearly considers the events in the Dark Side Cave to be a failure rather than a success for Luke and uses this failure as a reason why Luke should not go to face Vader yet. Kyp-Durron 17:30, 09 August 2007 (UTC)

• Who says that the trial of spirit must be a "success?" It requires one to look inside one's self and see who one really is. Victory has little to do with it. Jedibob5 22:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • That's not 100% true, Jedibob5, I think the trial has to do with personal growth. If a jedi looks into himself but doesn't grow or change for the better than I would regard the trial as a failure. Using this logic Luke's was a sucess.

MergerEdit

I think there is no need for separate articles about each trial, their text is practically the same as here. They should be merged into this article. Domlith 11:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC) (sorry, I forgot to sign when I made this proposal)

Trial of the Mind?Edit

In the downloadable content for The Force Unleased, I believe Starkiller embarks on another trial at the temple and its called the Trial of the Mind. Should this be added? It seems a bit similar though to the Trial of the Spirit as Marek ends up fighting a darkside version of himself. Darth Batrus 13:06, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

• Read the article, man. It says unusual trials are sometimes used. Also, that is extra-downloaded content and not canon. However, the likelihood Vader would have his apprentice have many Trials is high. --TheDoctor42 20:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Individual Jedi Trials Edit

The list of Jedi Trials examples is just going to keep growing and growing. Why not have a small Jedi Trial section on each Jedi Knight's page? The section will have info on that Jedi Knight's trials and possible trials. That will keep this page from being overloaded with lists of trials and possible trials.

Obviously, not all Jedi Knights have known trials, so only Jedi with known or suspected Jedi Trails can ern a "Jedi Trials" section on their page. --AnotherForlong

Trial failure Edit

Just wondering, what happens to a jedi that dosen't pass the trials? Do they have to do them again or what? --Jedijake123 21:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC) yes

Trial of Courage Example problem Edit

I am still pretty new to Wookieepedia, so I am just questioning if this should be changed.

On the Jedi Trials page under Trial of Courage examples, it states "Galen Marek defeating the insane Jedi Kazdan Paratus, or defeating Council member Shaak Ti, or invading the half complete Death Star I and confronting Darth Vader and Darth Sidious." Shouldn't this not include him killing 2 Jedi Masters, considering he was under the influence of a Sith Lord and following the path to the Dark Side. The last example about Death Star I is perfectly acceptable as passing a Trial of Courage.TK-299 20:54, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ahsoka's Trial of SpiritEdit

In Brain Invaders, Ahsoka was scared sick by the brainwashed clone troopers. Isn't that a example of the Trial of Spirit?

Obi-Wan's Jedi Trials Edit

There used to be a section on this page that had a list of every trial a Jedi completed but now it's in paragraph format and some of it is removed. Regardless though, I just want to know if anyone knows what all of Obi-Wan's trials were. I know his Trials of Courage and Skill were facing a Sith Lord under extreme circumstances and defeating him. And his Trial of Flesh came from the loss of his master, Qui-Gon. But what were his Trials of Spirit and Insight? If anyone knows it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Heart of the Force 22:46, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

• The reason I removed the list is because all of the so-called trials listed were all assumptions and unsourced. I don't believe that there has ever been a source stating exactly what each of Kenobi's trials were; though what was listed in The Jedi Path are all included.Purpilia 23:12, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

I was just wondering. Does anyone have a theory on what they were anyway? Heart of the Force 00:02, November 8, 2010 (UTC)