Contents 1 Juhani was a Lesbian 2 Reminder 3 Age again 4 Knight 5 KOTOR 2 mention? 6 Part Human 7 Article

Juhani was a LesbianEdit

Hm... not sure what more to say, but Juhani was a lesbian. How do I know that? Cause I wrote her, that's why. Probably shouldn't have said that either. I asked if I could, the boss said yes as long as I made it subtle. Didn't know how well that kind of thing would go over with LA.

People also seem to have the impression that this was a huge romance that was somehow cut back by LucasArts or someone. It wasn't. It was more of an Easter egg/little side plot thing I got to add in because it didn't require extra resources (only text which was being rewritten anyway) and my boss probably thought it would make me a happier employee.

Incidentally there were a whole bunch of lines written for Juhani where she comments on her distrust of Canderous (who I also wrote most of btw) that never seem to have made it into the final game. At least, I never saw them in any playthroughs or heard any comment about them. That was disappointing because I had hoped to stir something up there. :/ Oh well...

• If you truly are by any chance the one who wrote her, I must say you made a lot of people happy, you didn't just stir up the bunch of homophobes you see whining around.--Jinger 23:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

• It's obviously not the developer... "I asked if I could, the boss said yes as long as I made it subtle" sounds most suspicious, haha. The writers just supply their material (yeah, there's nitpicking here and there), but the entire field of the character and his or her lines were not written by the same people (nor the same people who created the character), ie, one writer did not write for a specific character but split the writing between more than one individual. This mostly includes scripting. Anyways, I've played the game so many times I've yet to see anything "intimate." You have to remember her entire character is very "cat-like," and we knows cats are affectionate dispite many things, but that is besides the point. And before someone calls me a homophobe, I honestly would not care if LGBT characters were ever added, I just don't see this in Juhani at all. Dreadhand 08:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

• When/Why were all references of Juhani being a lesbian removed from this article? It does not matter what you would prefer to see or not see in the character (or what the supposed "writer" intended), but it DOES matter what was in the dialogue of the game. And there is a female-Revan only romance option with Juhani. At the very least, this should be mentioned in the "behind the scenes" section of the article, as Revan is officially a male and therefore that romance was non-canon. (But there are also implications that Juhani was in a romantic relationship with another female padawan, the quest-giver.) Juhani is the first lesbian character in STAR WARS, possibly the first homosexual at all, and that is notable. fodigg ^(talk) | 19:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
  • To clarify, yes I am objecting to the fact that the word "lesbian" was removed in favor of "female that could be romanced by a female". Omitting the word implies that the word is obscene. It is not. fodigg ^(talk) | 20:02, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
    • Of course it's not obscene, it's an oou term though. I don't think it belongs there, that's why I removed it.--Jinger 17:32, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
      • Since when are descriptive terms being used as in-universe and out-of-universe? That is a meaningless distinction. Language is language. Furthermore, you removed it from a "behind the scenes" section. fodigg ^(talk) | 18:07, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
        • Homosexuality is "notable"? What does it matter the person's sexual orientation? Especially if it is not openly gay. Is there an award for Star War's First Heterosexual? Regardless if she is or not, and until Lucas officially confirms her alleged sexuality to be canon, its not a neutral argument to be included in this article.

ReminderEdit

That's also a warning, at this point. This isn't the place for social commentary, or vague personal attacks ("homophobe") on users or fans. Message boards and blogs are the place for that, not encyclopedias. Graestan^(Talk) 23:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Age again Edit

So it seems Juhani was about 18 when she joined Revan, the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide states the Battle of Cathar took place in 3,973 BBY.--Jinger 14:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Knight Edit

After the Star Forge was destroyed, did Juhani get knighted for her actions? 72.209.10.107 20:46, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Unknown. There's little margin for error that she was a Knight all along, but no one actually said it, and that kind of makes it speculation.--Jinger 21:04, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

There is no source to say that she was a Knight, but no one ever said she was a Padawan either, her rank was never actually stated.--Jinger 13:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

• It was stated that she was the Padawan, or at least a Jedi Initiate, under Quatra. NaruHina ^Talk 23:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
  • It was also stated that she finished her training, that Quatra had nothing left to teach her, and that she left to train others. It was stated that she passed the trials, and she actually comes in the party equipped with Jedi Knight robes, and refers to Revan as "Padawan", as would someone with higher rank. Nobody calls her a Padawan, or a Knight, after the trials, therefore I think we can only call her "Jedi."--Jinger 23:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

KOTOR 2 mention? Edit

Where in KOTOR 2 is Juhani mentioned? I don't remember anything/anyone in the game mentioning her. Sith Alchemy 101 13:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Part Human Edit

is it possible she's part human?? Cause after she saw the slaver she comments that her "Cathar Blood Boils"" , Making it sound like she has other blood. 63.17.192.12 19:02, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's unlikely. Although Bioware didn't do a very good job designing a Cathar for the game, I think that her line is meant to be symbolic, like if one of us were to say that our "human side" was touched by something. (The alternate implying our animal or savage side. I think that her expression is meant to imply that if she weren't angry, she wouldn't be a true Cathar.)SkyWolf 19:12, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Article Edit

I just wanted to let you guys know the site swtorstrategies.com is using your material without citing Wookiepedia. In fact if you look at the top the site is claiming authorship. The only reason I wanted to bring this to your attention is because the article was on the front page of Digg yesterday. 72.224.141.57 21:23, April 7, 2010 (UTC)