Talk:Kashyyyk

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Contents 1 Source ? 2 A Thought 3 Opinion 4 Pronounciation 5 Forest picture 6 Date of Kashyyyk's entry into the Clone Wars 7 Immigrated Species 8 Not sure 9 Planet picture 10 History 11 Population 12 Empire at War

[edit] Source ?

Do you have a source for Kashyyyk being in the Gordian Reach Sector? Because that's the sector Yavin is in, and thus would be a really, really big sector to also contain Kashyyyk (and we know it's not an Oversector, because Yavin is in the Bright Jewel Oversector). I've seen one online source placing Kashyyyk in the Sumitra sector, but haven't verified it with an official source just yet. JSarek 20:58, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

• Heir to the Empire sourcebook states Gordian reach. Imperialles 21:04, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • As I have the HESB, this one I can say is untrue, unless it's hidden in some weird spot I wouldn't think to check; it's certainly not in the section on Kashyyyk, Chewbacca, or Wookiees. Is this from the same website as the Dryden sector? JSarek 21:22, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

• You know it! I think we should ignore that site from now on. Imperialles 21:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Well, it seems to have the *planets* sourced right, at least, even though their locations are totally fabricated. Still, I'd double check anything I found there; having looked over his maps a bit, almost nothing matches up with official maps like the ones at the beginning of the NJO books. For more accurate maps, I (quite heartily) suggest the ones at Nav-computer.com. JSarek 21:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
• Hmmm, I can't find a sector for Kashyyyk, but the Sumitra sector apparently contains 12,387 planets and moons, including Tierfon. But makes no mention of Kashyyyk. --Beeurd 21:29, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
• Maybe this will be resolved after the release of Inside the Worlds of Episode III. -- Riffsyphon1024 21:35, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Very true. --Beeurd 21:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Let's hope. The CUSWE in the entry for Kashyyyk mentions the Sumitra sector, but there are so many sources that go into the Kashyyyk entry I'm not sure where to check for it. Perhaps it's in Gamer #4? Can anyone who owns that magazine check and see if it's there? JSarek 21:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Our Sumitra Sector article already says that the planet is located in it. Do we keep with that in the meantime. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:53, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
        • Oy, good question. Well, we KNOW it's not on the Gordian Reach, so that's gotta go. I think I'll replace it with the Sumitra Sector for now, since I've not known the CUSWE to make things up, but we should still find and verify the source of that bit of information ASAP. JSarek 03:09, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A Thought

Is it possible because of the terentatek that Kashyyyk may have been under the control of the original Sith Empire? User:RushinSundaws

• Hmm, interesting theory. However, it is possible that the Sith accuired the terentatek when they conquered Kashyyyk during the New Sith Wars. -- SFH 15:43, 4 Nov 2005 (UTC)
• Weren't the New Sith Wars after Revan went to Kashyyyk? Oh, and thanks for saying was interesting. User:RushinSundaws 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion

Am I the only one that noticed the error in Revenge of the Sith that showed an ocean on Kashyyyk? Yes, I have considered the fact that this ocean may have occured over time, but, it kind of ruins Kashyyyk. Does anyone know why there is an ocean??--Rindu Highland 15:17, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)

• It's not technically an "error", as whatever is seen in the movies overrides the EU. And we don't see much of Kashyyyk's surface in the EU. Nevertheless, I think that in order for Kashyyyk to have so much vegetation, it needs to have a lot of surface water. It doesn't "ruin" it for me. Even more, I'd like to see more surface water on planets such as Dantooine. - Sikon [Talk] 15:32, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)
• There's an ocean on Kashyyk. There always has been, even prior to ROTS. If you think about it, a heavily vegetated planet wouldn't really work without a largish body of water. QuentinGeorge 20:09, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • Yeah, if it was in ROTS, then ther is an ocean on Kashyyyk. Like they said above, it would make sense anyway for oceans to be on the planet, due to the forests and such. I do wonder, however, why Lucas didn't take the idea Kube-McDowell had for Coruscant from The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy with having at least some water on Coruscant. Adamwankenobi 23:30, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Because it contradicted his conceptual idea of a city-planet. QuentinGeorge 05:19, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      • Yeah, I know. But people can't survive without water, just as Kube-McDowell suggested. I suppose Lucas would say, though, that their water is constantly shipped from another planet, or that they drain their water from underground, or they catch it when it rains. And then the rain brings up another question: If there is rain, as seen in ROTS, then what water condensed to cause it in the first place? Adamwankenobi 06:14, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
        • It wasn't the water Kube-McDowell had a problem with, it was the planet's capacity to feed its population. However, Curtis Saxton (among others) showed that this concern was misplaced. QuentinGeorge 06:35, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
          • Besides, the "city planet with water" idea was eventually implemented, see Taris. - Sikon [Talk] 07:19, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
            • I see. OK. Adamwankenobi 07:27, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
              • The other thing is that there are costal regions of Kashyyyk specifically mentioned in EU, they just aren't prominent politically. (Perhaps due to their clone war devestation? mhm?)--Erl 18:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Did anyone notice that the Wookiees were fighting on ground? I thought the Shadowlands were the ground! Can someone please explain this for me?Nick sponge 00:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• I was wondering how the geographical discrepancies were being addressed, and I think that they haven't been adequately answered on the page. In KOTOR, Wookies live high in the trees in small villages, and brave wookies can descend into "the shadowlands" which appear to be the ground, and are dangerous. In ROTS, they have treehouses alright, but not exclusively, and low to the ground, near the water. In Pax Empirica, the short story, people live on branches that make a virtual ground; immediately below, there is an extremely dangerous dark place, which is for the most part inaccessible. In most other EU, wookkies live in large cities in the trees, with multiple layers of deadliness below them. This could be simply explained as differnt locations on the continent, not everywhere is the same. But it isn't explained at all.

I am not familiar with the EU descriptions of the planet except the Star Wars: Complete Locations describes the planet as "benign". Yet there are many references in this article to dangers at the lower levels. A contradiction? --Merbabu 09:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I thought it was a discrepancy at first as well, fighting on the beach instead of the shadowlands, but Kashyyk has continents and therefor it has beaches. All of its main cities are far from water so the only surrounding "ground" are shadowlands and much more dangerous than KOTOR would have you believe. If you were assaulting Kashyyk would you land amongst the trees where the Wooks would be in the natural environment or would you start on the beach, near the water, where the wooks are out of their element? Also if the CIS was going to burn Kashyyk they would start from the beach.

[edit] Pronounciation

• Can we please get the proper pronounciation guide back? This one is lame and amateurish. QuentinGeorge 05:21, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • I don't want people calling it Kah-zook either. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:01, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • That's from the Holiday Special. It should be included, for completeness. QuentinGeorge 06:02, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      • Yes, it is pronouneced "Kazook" in the holiday special, which, like it or not, is canonical, therefore we should include it. Adamwankenobi 06:07, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
        • Maybe if one was speaking in Bocce. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:09, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
          • Possibly... but I removed that pronounciation guide becuase I thought it just sucks, and clutters up the article. Adamwankenobi 06:12, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
          • Please don't keep removing it. It's a standard encyclopedic form and we've used it throughout the rest of the wiki. QuentinGeorge 07:43, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
            • (sigh) Fine.Adamwankenobi 08:46, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)

• Kazook?! Well, it's certainly not pronounced like that in KOTOR. How is it pronounced in ROTS? (I only have the Russian version of ROTS.) - Sikon [Talk] 11:46, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • It's pronounced Kazook in the Holiday Special, KASH-ik in KOTOR and Republic Commando, and kuh-SHEEK in ROTS. --MarcK [talk] 12:35, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • And if I might add, KASH-sheek in Battlefront II. -- Riffsyphon1024 14:33, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • And, if you've read the article on the Holocron continuity database, it says, that G-canon (the 6 movies, and anything directly from George Lucas) overides C-canon (Expanded Universe). Nick sponge
    • And, if you think about it, people pronounce things differently. I'm pretty sure that not all beings in the galaxy would pronounce it "KASH-EEK." In the films, we've only heard Mace Windu's method of pronouning it. Adamwankenobi 19:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

• Should Kashyyyk be added to the list of known pronunciations? I mean, even though there are different versions of it, at least we have something. --KievanMereel 18:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Forest picture

• This picture was under the "Forest" section of the article. I removed it, since there clearly aren't enough trees in the pic to qualify as a forest. Ideally, we could get a picture of the "layered deathtrap" forests with the massive trees. -LtNOWIS 20:19, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)

• The picture is not a good one as this represent Dagobah and not Kashyyyk, due to a confusion between the promotional pictures before the release of Revenge of the Sith.

You can see this in the deleted scenes in RotS DVD ;).

Can I suggest you to search an other one ? -- Nom Anor 12:32, 16 March 2006 (FR)

• Kashyyyk and (pure) Dagobah uses the same planet picture

[edit] Date of Kashyyyk's entry into the Clone Wars

The article seems to think that Deep Forest falls immediately before RotS... I got the impression that it was just after AotC... anyone? --McEwok 00:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

• Seeing as the Wookiees in the Clone Wars cartoon are caught unawares by the CIS, I'd say that it's just before RotS. Cutch 02:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
  • And you'd be right - or at least, much more right than me! The first frame of Deep Forest (Visionaries, p. 93) dates the story "eighteen months after the Battle of Geonosis".... --McEwok 09:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Immigrated Species

the Sayormi should be added there, but not all the critters!JustinGann 12:53, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not sure

• What's Wookiee Planet A? or B? I just want to know. Lucas Wolfdog 03:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

i think it was rude nickname that clones created because they had trouble prounouncing kashyyyk and to many people prounounced it different.this would be more likely if the clones didnt know how to spell kashyyyk.

[edit] Planet picture

The planet picture used in the infobox it's in fact the real picture of the planet Dagobah, wich appears in the deleted scenes of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. I think it should move it to Dagobah's infobox page, and find a real good one picture for Kashyyyk. Zeist Antilles 15:10, 01 December 2006.

• Actually, no, it is not. It is a promotional image of Kashyyyk from Revenge of the Sith. - JMAS 15:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
  • In the left there are same screenshots from deleted scenes of Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith, as can you see, Yoda is landing on Dagobah, you can see the planet picture (the lake and the clouds in the first pic) matches perfectly with the one is showed in Kashyyyk page (on the right). I think is evident it must to be move it to Dagobah's infobox page, and find a real good picture for Kashyyyk. You can see this deleted scenes here http://youtube.com/watch?v=jRCphmkll1w

Zeist Antilles 2:46 pm, 04 December 2006.

[edit] History

Changed the part about the Mandalorian plans. Canderous said they would have burnt down forests and glassed entire continents just so they could have a place to fight, not to stamp out any resistance. S W Is For Life 04:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population

Is there really any way for Kashyyyk to have only 45 million Wookiees (and everyone else)? I mean, Coruscant has over a trillion people alone, and even though it's the capital and everything, I don't think Kashyyyk would have less people than Ukraine. -- Cato Neimoidia 19:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Empire at War

I've noticed that there's nothing in the article about Han Solo and the Alliance liberating Wookiees from prisons in Empire at War. Darth Oompa Loompa 15:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)