Talk: Kol Skywalker

Article milestones Date Process Result December 8, 2007 Featured article nomination Success December 15, 2007 Featured article by Havac February 28, 2010 Featured article review Kept April 25, 2010 Featured article September 5, 2018 Featured article review Removed September 30, 2018 Former Featured article
Current status: Former Featured article

Mention

Since Star Wars: Legacy (2006) 0 came out today, I assume this guy is mentioned there, but can someone verify? And if canon, do we need a spoiler tag for him? - Kwenn 15:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

• Well, from what I've read of the ish, Kol is alive (at least, he's not written in past-tense, like in most cases of deceased characters) at the start of the series. Tocneppil 06:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The images released of Issue 1 seem to show him getting skewered. Kuralyov 06:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Stang.Tocneppil 06:34, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Where does it say Cade is Kol's son? - Lord Hydronium 08:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• I don't think it does. Everyone just seems to be making assumptions. Could be his uncle for all we know. (Ulicus 23:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC))
  • In the preview for Legacy 1, Cade and Kol quite obviously call each other father and son. - Sikon [Talk] 00:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
  • It also states it in the latest Insider magazine. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 00:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Well I didn't know that on the 9th of June did I? :P (Ulicus 16:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC))
      • In the first ish of Legacy, a few panels after Kol is skewered, Cade is shown seething with his lightsaber lit and says he is going to kill the Sith who "killed my father" (Not trying to beat a dead horse, just trying to show another reference)Chervil 02:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
• Wasn't he killed by several Sith Lords?
  • No one could kill those sideburns. They're the Legacy era's Hat. CooperTFN 08:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Sideburns aside... What's with his outfit? It's so goofy:P Sato Stars 07:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I think Duursema was going for an Errol Flynn look.Tocneppil 05:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
        • Reminds me of a Silver Age super-hero, the way he's dressed. Green Arrow or something (who is admittedly a Flynn ripoff). Those sideburns do indeed rule. Lonnyd 21:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
          • If you check Legacy 1 you can CLEARLY see more than one type of hand sending Force lightning at Kol that kills him. Which is why one simple blast instantly killed him - it wasn't one blast but several Sith Lords blasting at the same time.

Is he holding Anakins lightsaber? That thing is freaking ancient if it is!

Ben's Grandson

Isn't Kol Ben's grandson? I believe it was confirmed Cade was five generations apart from Luke, which would make Ben Kol's Grandfather:

Luke > Ben > Unknown > Kol > Cade

So should we say he is his grandson?--Sauron18 02:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

• Confirmed where? -- Ozzel 02:27, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
  • It said on a summary in Dark Horse that it was 5 generations after Luke Skywalker, and it said in Legacy, as well as stated by Ostrander, that Cade was of Luke's line, so that woule man this, I believe. --Sauron18 22:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Meaning that it would be Luke>Ben>Unknown Skywalker>Kol>Cade. So I guess that proves that Kol is indeed Ben's grandson. Now all we need to do is wait for the LOTF series to show us who Ben's son's name is.--Fluke_Skyflopper 1:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if I'd jump the gun about Kol being Ben's direct descendant. He came from Luke, obviously, but we don't know that Mara and Luke won't have another child who could be Kol's grandfather. Unlikely, though it might be, given their age, but...we never know.--Hedec Ga

He's Bens' grandson.

If Kol is Ben's grandson then he'd be in his 30's at the time of his death. Since, IIRC, he's the de facto leader of the Jedi Order it's kind of ridiculous to assume he achieved what amounts to Grand Master in less than 40 years. Luke was 55 before he declared himself Grand Master at the beginning of the Swarm War. Jacen was 31 and still a Knight at the time of his fall and Jaina was still a Knight as of Outcast in 43 ABY(34 years old) despite being Skywalkers. Plus, non-Force-sensitive humans live on average 100 years and for a Jedi, you can assume it'd be even longer. So, it's pretty safe to assume that any child of Ben would still be alive and relevent in the Order as of 130 ABY even if they are in their 80's or 90's. -Darth Res

well i'm all for the idea that kol is ben's grandson but we don't know if luke got together with another women (however unlikely that may be) and had a child (again however unlikely it may be) and that could be the grandfather of kol Jedi Knight Jayzen Shan (talk) 01:21, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

• This topic is dead and has been for years. Do not resurrect it. Until a source says he was descended from Ben, we can't say that. NaruHina ^Talk 10:33, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Not Dead?

So is Darkhorse saying he may not be dead? I hope not, he was cool!

• Possibly, although it might be for some other reason. Perhaps Kol can't become a Force ghost, or perhaps his spirit has become trapped by the Sith? Doesn't just mean he's alive - \\Captain Kwenn// ^{— Ahoy!} 21:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

True. When I heard about that I thought that meant he wasn't dead. Hopefully he isn't

Yeah, I don't see how he could have died from a blast of lightning from Darth Nihl. Sidious blasted Yoda with lightning and it only took Yoda down for 10 to 20 seconds, Dooku blasted AOTC Anakin with it and Anakin even hit his head on a wall and he was down for about a minute. Nihl is weaker than those Sith are - I don't see how one blast from him could have taken down Kol for good.

• If you check Legacy 1 you can CLEARLY see more than one type of hand sending Force lightning at Kol that kills him. Which is why one simple blast instantly killed him - it wasn't one blast but several Sith Lords blasting at the same time.

Birth

• Source for date of birth? Chack Jadson 14:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
  • It was in a forum post by Jan Duursema over at TF.N, but she said in a later post that the dates were not official or accurate. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 03:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
    • So, since it's not official why is it on Wookieepedia? It's certainly possible, but it's not yet confirmed. Kol strikes me as being older than 39 at the time of his death. He seems to be at least in his mid forties.(Ulicus 18:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC))

Bens son

it says in the ben skywalker article that he is kol's father i was wondering if this was true No. Kol is the son of ben's son. Roron Corobb 14:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

New Main Pic

• Yeah, I really think that Kol needs a new Main Pic.

  

  What do you guys think about this one? If anyone wants to source it, it's from Legacy #1. Vezz801 02:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Anyone else think that pic looks a lot like Afro-Samurai?--Livingston ^{(The Force will be with you. Always.)} 18:38, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Actually, I always thought he looked a bit like the title character in Buichi Terasawa's "Cobra" manga/anime series.Tocneppil 01:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

i think kol needs a new main pic. wookieman3

Name Origin

Some of these Legacy names are so random it seems like they're just throwing syllables together, right? Well, this one might have some logic behind it. Kol is the hebrew word for all if spelled with one set of hebrew letters, and for voice if spelled with a different set. Does this seem to have any significance? Vongchild 22:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Ganner vs Gandalf

Ganner: "This threshold is mine. I claim it for my own. Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass!"
Gandalf: "I am a servant of the Secret Fire...You cannot pass!"

So, where is the similarity worth to be mentioned here?? MoffRebus 08:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

• Hmmm no reply so far. So that means nobody will object the removal of that meaningless trivial reference? MoffRebus 08:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Stop adding crap

The article does not need a dozen damn images stuffed in it. It doesn't need horrible prose jammed into it. As soon as I get my hands on the comic, the new information will be added. Until then, if you can't add that information in a halfway semicompetent way (hint: you haven't), don't screw up the article. Thanks. Havac 22:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

• Thats a little arrogant of you Havac, I happen to think the information was competent (no I didn't write it myself), the addition of that picture of the Force Ghost Kol was a valuable addition, as the Force Ghost is an important part of this characters progression, your not the only one able to edit these articles. Thanks. Jedi-Sith 03:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

• • Havac, your attitude is getting annoying.--Gonzalo84 04:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't aware you own this article, Havac. If you don't want it altered, then lock it.--Gonzalo84 04:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Force Ghost picture?

Its been four months since the picture and information was removed. Is there any way we can get it back in a way that will satisfy everyone? The article, in my opinion, is lacking due to the exclusion of the picture. Thanks. Darth Anakin 15:16, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Update

This thing still needs updating. That's just not good enough for an FA. If you want to wait for TPBs, then you're going to have to work with what other people add, and make it not "crap." -- AdmirableAckbar ^(Talk) 11:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

• I do update . . . it's just not tremendously detailed. It's just Ataru-detailed. Havac 21:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • It still needs some mention of Nat, though, and possibly some early life Corde stuff, whatever the level of detail. -- AdmirableAckbar ^(Talk) 21:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • The Corde stuff is in there -- at least, I'm not aware of any new revelations that aren't in there. If Nat's not in there, I'll add him. Havac 21:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Grand Master?

Is Kol a Grand Master? he is "a leading member on the Jedi Council".

Is he?

• I seem to recall it stated in sources that he was head of the Jedi Council at that time, which I would assume would equate to Grand Master. Vryce 04:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Ancestors and Descendants

Kol Skywalker is the son of Ben Skywalker, the grandson of Luke Skywalker, and the great-grandson of Anakin Skyalker. In a lost comic panel, the ghost of Luke Skywalker was reported telling a bounty hunter to "Step Away from My Great-Grandson!" but it was changed to "Step Away From That Skywalker!" to confuse the less intelligent-fans of Star Wars. I am fascinated about Ben Skywalker, and I await the book or moment when he falls in love and fathers Kol Skywalker and Nat Skywalker. Darth Kieduss the Wise 00:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Proof? Bold Clone 13:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, its not from a lost panel, but from this image - File:Lotf ad from KOTOR campaign guide.jpg. It was part of an advert for the Star Wars Miniatures game. Since the ad is not in-universe, it cannot be taken as canon at all. - Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 14:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

That explains why Boba Fett is in it...Bold Clone 21:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Who is Kol Skywalker's father?

This would also be Ben Skywalker's son. Who is this unidentified Skywalker? 97.125.18.52 04:56, September 14, 2010 (UTC)