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New changes

Several users and I have put together some minor changes for the Main Page, and I will outline each one:

  • Social media icons. We've moved our social media icons out of the Official Friends template at the bottom of the page and placed them prominently at the top of the page. They replaced the interwiki links template, which is just redundant and not as important. In Oasis, the interwiki links are already listed at the bottom of the page, and in Monobook, they're listed in the toolbar on the left side of the page. The social media icons will appear in grayscale until a user hovers over them with their cursor, then they will be highlighted in color. We also added a link to StarWars.com as a courtesy and out of fairness, since they link to us.
  • New messages. We added the following messages. The first is an expansion on the spoilers warning: "Warning: This wiki contains spoilers, and not all content is appropriate for all ages!" This was done partly in response to some of the flak we've taken over the years for some of our more sensitive subject matter, such as the breast article. While we certainly will not bend to cries for censorship, we felt it was nonetheless appropriate to leave a notice, since Star Wars is a "family franchise." This way, people can't claim they weren't forewarned. The other message is an official recommendation to use Monobook instead of the default Wikia skin: "For an optimal viewing experience, Wookieepedia recommends using the Monobook skin. For help changing your skin preferences, see Help:Skin." Note that this message's existence on the Main Page is policy that was ratified here, but for some reason we never implemented it. We tried to see if there was a way for it to only show up in Oasis view, but we couldn't find a better option other than putting it in the Community Corner, which is not clearly visible, or as a popup, which Wikia Staff frowns upon. This is the best option we settled with.
  • Click for navigation. We also performed a major update of the navigation dropdown feature, which was in desperate need.

Feel free to comment. We have more ideas in the works, and we can always make tweaks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:54, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

  • I like the changes. I've implemented a bit of CSS that will hide the skin notice in Monobook. Give it a few minutes (at least 10) due to caching before you say it's not working.
    Master JonathanCouncil Chambers
    06:13 UTC ThuApril 3, 2014
    06:13, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
    • I need to go to bed, but somebody please take a look at the Main Page on a phone in the mobile skin (or switch to Oasis and use the preview function there, which gives you the option to view it in the mobile skin). The social media links are showing up twice because the mobile skin strips out virtually all CSS. I think we're going to need to use JavaScript to change the image colors rather than CSS. The skin notice might also be better added with JavaScript for the same reason, since Monobook is not phone-friendly and the same trick I used to hide the notice on Monobook won't work in the mobile skin.
      Master JonathanCouncil Chambers
      07:25 UTC ThuApril 3, 2014
      07:25, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
      • Looks like the Article Navigation box is busted too, since dropdowns don't work. I wonder if there's a way to force mobile Wikia to fetch a completely different main page, one sans CSS. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 07:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
        • My only complaint would be the skin notice. Sure it is the rule, but because you have to be a registered member to change the skin and the majority of people that view the main page aren't going to be registered nor are they ever going too. Fe Nite (talk) 18:08, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
          • It is only present on the Main Page, and it was agreed upon by community consensus. Also, the Tardis Wiki uses a similar sitenotice to inform people about their choice of skin. Cade StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 18:16, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
            • I understand that it was agreed upon by consensus. Not going against that. I am just saying that the majority of people who read Wookieepedia use the wikia skin because it's the default one; and unless Wikia decides to switch everything to monobook, it will stay that way. But you are right. It is irrelevant to this discussion, so I will drop it here. Fe Nite (talk) 23:30, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
          • I think the skin notice is a nice addition. Is there no way to direct the user to a link that will automatically switch skins? Anyway, I'd only suggest shortening the phrase. Something like For an optimal viewing experience, Wookieepedia recommends using the Monobook skin. To learn how to change it, click here. Stake black msg 02:29, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
    • Ok, the social media icons should be fixed now in the mobile skin. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:14, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

A few more thoughts:

  • Eliminating the article navigation definitely cleans up the mobile version of the page. I like it.
  • The elimination of the duplicate social media icons is good, however, that leaves us with just the grayscale icons on mobile. Since there is no such thing as "hovering over them" on an entirely touchscreen mobile device, it seems that we should therefore use the colored icons on mobile. However, I'm not sure of the best way to accomplish this, or if it can be done at all without altering the behavior on desktop.
  • The skin notice probably should be hidden on mobile as well; it's a bit unreasonable to tell mobile users to use a desktop skin that is anything but phone-friendly. Trust me, I've tried to use Monobook on my phone and it's a royal pain in the ass. The mobile skin may have its flaws, but on a smartphone it is superior to Monobook.
  • In reply to Stake black:
    • Technically, we could give a link directly to Monobook, but that would only last for that one page load. The next page load would revert back to Oasis. Short of concocting some JavaScript to allow users to set a browser cookie to redirect all Oasis page requests to ?useskin=monobook (which Wikia would probably be annoyed at), the only way to get a skin change to persist past the first page is to manually change it in preferences.
    • I wouldn't object to making it shorter, but please note that "click here" is evil and should be avoided.
That's all I have to say for right now.
Master JonathanCouncil Chambers
05:42 UTC FriApril 4, 2014
05:42, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Round 2

For Round 2 of our Main Page changes, we've totally overhauled the navigation feature to move it out of the dropdown so that people can actually see it. We've greatly expanded it with additional sections and added a dropdown visual element. Other minor changes were made to the Random status article box, and the "Hide" feature was implemented for all of the MP's templates. Cade did most of the legwork, so I'll let him detail anything else I've missed. Feel free to comment. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:33, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

  • I like the general idea, but it seems to clutter up the main page quite a bit. Shouldn't the default option be to hide the drop-down boxes? Adamwankenobi (talk) 00:38, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
    • Looks great on desktop, not so much on mobile, If you open the page on a phone and scroll down to below the Official Friends, you get humongous, badly-formatted lists of images that are probably a huge waste of data.
      Master JonathanCouncil Chambers
      05:19 UTC SatApril 12, 2014
      • Um, no you don't. I've specifically designed the system to have a mobile subpage that's completely different - none of the dropdowns are included on that page. See here. Cade StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 05:22, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
        • Indeed, I just found that subpage. It appears to have been a temporary Wikia problem that I encountered.
          Master JonathanCouncil Chambers
          05:28 UTC SatApril 12, 2014

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