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Humanoid?Edit

Are Mandalorians human or humanoid? --SparqMan 21:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

  • A bit of "all of the above." Originally they were non-human humanoids; later humans joined their ranks, and later still other non-human races also joined. JSarek 21:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

They are depicted in the movies and games as being identical to humans, I suspect them to simply be a unique culture. Imperialles 21:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Karen's stated several times that the majority are human, reason being that the culture appeals to them more than say, a Twi'lek or Mon Cal.

Quiet Mandalorian 02:24, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Quiet Mandalorian

  • Being a Mandalorian is sort of like a culture. It started out as a race (Taungs) but anyone that is sufficiently brave can join them. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jango Fett an adopted Mandalorian?) Darth Metus 19:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Why isn't there a picture of KOTOR-era Mandalorians?Edit

I think it would be good for the article to have a picture of a KOTOR-era Mandalorian, one in the KOTOR-era full Mandalorian battle armor, like the armor of Bendak Starkiller, or one of the Mandalorians on Dxun.

151.203.164.110 16:54, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Do you have at least one picture of the "shogun" Mandalorians from the New Sith Wars?

ArmorEdit

While in pictures, It looks like the mandalorians had identical armor, in reality, karen traviss said they didn't. I expect we should see this in her new book, bloodlines, where boba fett leads the mandalorians.Xilentshadow900 11:15, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • What bugs me the *MOST* about the armour issue, is that the EU is trying to marry the depictions in TotJ with KotOR, saying "new armour was introduced". Not the case. The KotOR games completely overhauled and *retconned* the asthetics of the TotJ era to make it look less archaic - had it told the story of Exar Kun, you can bet the mandalorians would have looked exactly the same. Likewise, in KotOR 2, Canderous specifically states that he is wearing the *same* helmet as the Mandalore who served Ulic... but... wait, it's silver! Not red... and considerably less 'mask-like'... it must be different. NO. Not different. Retcon. Or at least it was, before it got retconned right back. Gah. Ridiculous. All but the basic plot outline of TotJ (which wasn't terrible) should be put on a pyre and burnt, but I guess I'm biased. (Ulicus 00:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC))
  • have you connsidered that he repaints the mandalore's helmet

umEdit

mændəlɔːiːʌn So how's that pronounced in english?--Xilentshadow900 00:43, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • For those who can read phonetics it is basically, "Mand" (as in hand), "Lor" (as in "Lore") "Ian" (as in the name). QuentinGeorge 01:10, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • All i can see here is Mandel-rectangle-rectangle-i-rectangle-rectangle-n. Ridiculous. --Azizlight 05:07, 19 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    • You don't have proper font. SkywalkerPL 16:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

skull imageEdit

I changed the mandalorian picture at the beginning because the original image was fuzzy and looked bad I thought. --Dannyboy7783 13:16 10 Dec 2005 (EST) 

sOMONE JUST ERASED ALL THE INFO !

ShipsEdit

-We need more pics of non-fanon ships. the gunships, the dungeon ships- i dont care. just more ships --Yoda1300 23:14, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

    • perhaps we could make another section for ships in the article, so we don't have to take up much space? But I think it's a good idea. Definitely more ships. I'll try to scan some in later.--Xilentshadow900 14:09, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
    • someone should desribe the tra'kad or something.--Jedi Knight J 10:50, 27 Oct 2008

Womandalorian picEdit

  • I added the name "Vhonte Tervho", Tom Hodges' designation for the female Mandalorian hunter he drew, to the description under her image box. Is this acceptable?

Quiet Mandalorian 14:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Yeah. The name isn't canon, but the character article makes that clear. -LtNOWIS 23:42, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Good.

Quiet Mandalorian 14:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Quiet Mandalorian

Mandalorian marriage?Edit

I'd like to add in the Tom Hodges pic of a Mandalorian wedding from the Insider. Can anyone tell me how to do this?

Quiet Mandalorian 14:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Quiet Mandalorian

  • On the side of the screen, under "toolbox," there is an upload file option. Scan the pic in, and upload it to the site.--Xilentshadow900 15:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Okay, I just tried that, but when I hit "upload file", nothing happens.

Quiet Mandalorian 19:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Quiet Mandalorian

    • I took care of it. Kuralyov 19:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Nuts.

Quiet Mandalorian 22:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Quiet Mandalorian

Mythosaur skull?Edit

Whence comes the information that the Mando skull insignia is based off a mythosaur? Lieutenant Gerard 18:36, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

  • "The History of the Mandalorians," Star Wars Insider 80. jSarek 22:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
    • "The traditional Mandalorian crest, frequently mistaken for a Bantha skull, bears a striking resemblance to the skull of a male mythosaur. But in truth, the symbol was actually adopted in reverence to a legendary Mandalorian combat-training master." Is that what you mean? Lieutenant Gerard 01:25, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

"No official ranks beside Mandalore"?Edit

In KOTOR II I'm positive are Mandalorians at Dxun that are addressed as "sergeant" and "commander." I think the Mandalorian you rescue from the jungle addresses his superior that way after returnign to the camp. Anyone near that stage of the game? Kuralyov 19:18, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

  • You're absolutely correct, Legs. --Imp 19:20, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I'll change it, then. Kuralyov 19:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
      • That info was from Karen Traviss, although I'm sure she didn't mean the KOTOR mandalorians. So when you edit it, tell what time period.--Xilentshadow900 20:29, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
          • With all due respect to Karen Traviss, published canon sources outrank statements by authors. Kuralyov 20:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • It's not canon unless it's in a published source. Karen Traviss' blog is not a canon source. Doesn't matter if an author is saying it, that doesn't make it official. KOTOR II, however, is official. Kuralyov 21:36, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Is it possible that the use of ranks in kotOR II would be considered "game mechanics"?

Quiet Mandalorian 22:38, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Quiet Mandalorian

    • No, because it wasn't something related to the game engine or mechanics, it was actually spoken by characters. Kuralyov 22:59, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • How do we know it's not simply something to differentiate the various warriors from each other for the benefit of the player?

Quiet Mandalorian 17:03, 13 February 2006 (UTC)Quiet Mandalorian

    • "They ignore rank and status and prefer to judge by actions and achievements, a true meritocracy. ... Their fighting forces settle into informal command structures almost without thought or effort, focused on the outcome and not personal ambition." <-- From the new article. I guess it's just 2 different eras. Especially if the article is talking about post-New Sith Wars mandos.-LtNOWIS 17:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Since the Mando's on Dxun are essentially in a war zone, perhaps that would account for their command structure? --Fade 18:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok homies. the Mandalorians are VERY traditional. Also there was a SET way of things before KOTOR came along and screwed with the Star Wars history. Also i agree with quiet mandalorian up there. good man! You people have a tendency to take everything in the video games to heart and preach it non stop when there was already a written event that took place in that time. ALSO! the mandalorians that were on duxun MAY have used a ranking system that Mandalore created to help keep training new mandalorians orderly. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS PERMANENT OR THAT THEY ALWAYS USED IT Therefor i leave you with an old saying. "to each his own" —Unsigned comment by 71.193.242.243 (talk • contribs).

  • I removed the weird way you did that, we don't need a new section. Additionally, do you even know what you're talking about? Karen Traviss and the Mandalorian article came along much later than the ranks that actually happened in KOTOR. They didn't screw up anything. If anything, the article that claimed they had no ranks screwed everything up. There was no set way of doing things before KOTOR. The only thing we knew about Mandalorian tactics was that large groups raided ships in the Great Sith War. I'm not defying that article though, because as has already been mentioned, it's likely just a different thing having to do with the different eras. Oh, AND WE HAD ALREADY COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT WASN'T PERMANENT OVER THE ERAS. STOP SHOUTING. That is all. Cull Tremayne 09:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The Clans of Boba FettEdit

With the new article, it looks like a ton needs to be added to the culture section. Anybody up to it? Also, we are NOT allowed to copy the dictionary to the wikipedia page.--Xilentshadow900 04:02, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I guess I could give it a shot. -LtNOWIS 17:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Further visual referenceEdit

  • I added the Tom Hodges pic of the young Mandalorian and his father at target practice. Someone tell me if this screws up anything.

Quiet Mandalorian 02:22, 18 February 2006

  • That and the weddding shot are fine, but I really think that the one of the Mandalorian modifying his armor/weapons belongs in a new section...perhaps...Mandalorian equipment? QuentinGeorge 02:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Done.

Quiet Mandalorian 05:41, 18 February 2006

Whoa whoa whoa whoaEdit

  • Who the hell moved this from Mandalorian and why? --MarcK [talk] 23:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
    • That was me, and to make it more encyclopedic really. We have Thrawn at the name he goes by in his own language, so it seems right to have other pages at what they're called in their languages too. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 00:25, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
      • I don't care about this move either way, but it seems I can't point this out enough: "Thrawn" is a Chiss nickname. It is not "Mitth'raw'nuruodo" in basic. That is all. CooperTFN 20:25, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
        • This article *really* should be "Mandalorian". This is the Basic Wookieepedia, though if someone wants to start up a Wookiepedia written purely in Mandalorian (which I think will probably rival Klingon as the 'not real language to learn' in the not so distant future) then feel free. (Ulicus 00:15, 20 May 2006 (UTC))

Picture looks like crap?Edit

thumb|left What's so crappy about this image? KEJ 20:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Is that even official?--Xilentshadow900 20:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
    • It sure is. It's a load screen from an official Lucas Arts game. KEJ 20:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
      • Still, it takes up too much space. There's too little Fett, and his back is turned to us. It just doesn't look good in the article.--Xilentshadow900 20:35, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
        • Fair enough, that's an argument I'm much more inclined to buy than 'it looks like crap'. My motivation for using it in the Mando'ade article was that it depicted Boba Fett, who was Mandalore, and the Mandalore "logo" KEJ 20:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
          • Sorry, just a bit touchy today. Too many vandals running around...--Xilentshadow900 20:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I actually think that pic looks really good for this article Odintheking 19:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

It kind of looks like he's taking a leak...--KrossTransmit on Holonet? 18:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

  • It does....The turned head gives it away.

No way! It looks like he's holding a blaster up to his chest leaning against the wall, lurking, waiting, or hiding, except the wall is invisible. Darth Shohet 21:21, May 31 2008

It really does look like he is taking a leak

Category:Human racesEdit

I categorized this into Category:Human races, because while the original Mandos were Taung, and some were Kerestian or other species, the vast majority appear to have been Humans who were born into the Mandalorian culture. Thus, Mandalorian Humans would count as a distinct human ethnicity/race/nation/what have you. Since a separate article on the Mandalorian warrior organization and Mandalorian Humans couldn't be written, I thought that they should go into the Human races category.

Obviously, not everyone agrees, but there's my arguement, anyway. Comments? —Silly Dan (talk) 22:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

  • No, the mandalorians were a mix of several different races and cultures.--Xilentshadow900 23:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, I know, I said so above. My point is, they were for the most part human, and could thus be included in the Human races category. They'd also be included in the "Togorian clans" or "Kerestian tribes" categories, if they existed. —Silly Dan (talk) 04:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Infidelity?Edit

At the begining of chapter 15 of Republic Commando: Triple Zero it has a quote about Mandalorians that says "They seem tolerant of marital infidelity...". Should someone incorperate that information into the article? I wouldn't know how to incorperate such information into the article, so it would be best if someone else did it.

  • Not having Triple Zero, could you provide me the complete passage?TIEPilot051999 04:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
    • "...Their definition of offspring or parentt is more by relationship than birth: adoption is extremely common, and it's not unusual for soldiers to take war orphans as their their sons or daughters if they impress them with their aggression and tenacity. They also seem tolerant of marital infidelity during long separations, as long as any child resulting from it is raised by them. Mandalorians define themselves by culture and behavior alone..." Anyways, when there isn't a long separation, marital fidelity is important. The culture section still isn't fully updated, but this should be covered. (Yeah, it's my fault for being lazy and not updating it.) -LtNOWIS 21:21, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
  • So, is someone going to add this new info? 151.203.160.169 07:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah.. I checked and the article doesn't say anything about the Mando'ade views on infidelity, and all that stuff mentioned in the above quote. Is someone going to add it? I would do it myself, but I would probably mess the article up (I don't think i'm all that good at adding new stuff), so instead of trying to do it and ending up looking like a Di'kut, i think someone else should add this new information in.
  • It seems to be relevant info, so i don't know why it hasn't been included
    • I'll work it in later tonight. I have to do some edits on this anyway. TIEPilot051999 02:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Possible Scalping?Edit

Is it possible that the Mandalorians scalp some opponets? I remember reading in The Unifying Force about a Yuuzhan Vong Warrior with a full head of hair charging down a hall at a group of Mandalorians, and stumbling back a few seconds latter stark bald. Normally I would just assume that his hair may have simply been blown off by laser fire or a grenade, but there is the matter of the Wookiee pelts that Boba Fett was known to wear. -- SFH 23:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I've never heard that, but it's possible. -LtNOWIS 00:04, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I've heard of it and Han Solo mentions it at least once (sorry I don't know the source). Plus Beviin has a Vong skalp attached to his armor

QuoteEdit

I had an idea about the quote. Does anyone think it would be a good idea to translate the current quote ("Mandalorians don't make threats. We make promises.") into Mando'a then use the Mando'a version of the quote (with the Basic translation right after it) in the article? I don't know too much Mando'a so someone more knowlegable would have to do the translation, but I think it would be cool to see "Mandalorians don't make threats. We make promises." writen in Mando'a as the quote. 141.154.164.134 14:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

  • No. Kuralyov 17:20, 4 April 2006 (PDT)
    • Well alright then. It was just a thought, no big deal. 141.154.164.134 00:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

KOTOR-era Mandalorian symbolEdit

In KOTOR II, on Dxun, some flags in the jungle bear a symbol which seems to be their insignia. However it looks more or less like that one of the Infinite Empire. Anyone has noticed it? Maybe we should include it here MoffRebus 21:25, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, a month has passed and no reply. Anyone noticed what I said? MoffRebus 13:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I did! But I have no in-universe answer, only the out-of-universe answer ("lazy programming.") Sorry. —Silly Dan (talk) 20:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Do you have a picture link to the symbol? Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 03:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    • No, alas!! I was not even able to compare i it was identical to the Infinite EMpire symbol or just similar. Silly Dan?? MoffRebus 12:12, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

QuotesEdit

The quote from the Mando history article is very cool. Can anyone add some more quotes? --Eyrezer 23:26, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

  • That's the full text of the in-universe quote from the beginning of the article. Anything more would violate our goal of keeping quotes attributable to in-universe sources. jSarek 21:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Change Back to MandalorianEdit

I am of the mind that this article should be changed back to "Mandalorian". This is the "Basic" version of Wookieepedia, and therefore the English names should be used. It is also the name by which the majority of english speaking Star Wars fans know the subject/s, Mando'ade is a bit too shibbolethy for me. Maybe I'm in the minority- but I want to see other people's opinions on this.(Ulicus 01:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC))

  • Definitely agree. Kuralyov 01:21, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Shibbolethy...good word! There are good arguements either way, and our naming policy would (I think) consider either of them correct and full names. Perhaps we should call a vote? —Silly Dan (talk) 01:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Move to MandalorianEdit

  1. Ulicus. For the reasons listed above.(Ulicus 14:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC))
  2. >Sikon [Talk] 14:15, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  3. Totally agree. UVnet 01:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
  4. Jerrycurl. Agree 100% --Jerry 19:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  5. Kuralyov 19:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  6. SFH 18:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  7. It's what they call themselves when speaking Basic, so it's not like they find it offensive or anything. —Silly Dan (talk) 18:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  8. RMF 18:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  9. Support. Though I think moving them to Ninja would also work - they've been known to fight pirates, after all. jSarek 09:23, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  10. I've always liked Mandalorian better anyway--Xilentshadow900 12:23, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  11. Azizlight 11:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Keep at Mandalorian.

Keep at Mando'adeEdit

  1. MandalorianWarriortalk 20px 02:51, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  2. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 18:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  3. User:RushinSundaws 13:30, 10 June 2006
  4. BaronGrackle 23:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Xepeyon 15:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Darth Metus 14:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Keep at KlingonEdit

  1. Sikon [Talk] 18:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  2. RMF 18:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  3. I just wanted to join in. :) —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 18:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  4. Darth Culator 18:27, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  5. AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 18:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  6. But only if it weighs the same as a duck![1] --McEwok 18:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Move to NinjaEdit

  1. (a) Mandalorians are mammals. (b) Mandalorians fight all the time. (c) The purpose of Mandalorians is to flip out and kill people. —Silly Dan (talk) 18:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Neutral/CommentsEdit

If we move Mando'ade from it's proper name (Mando'ade) to it's Basic name (Mandalorian), then we will also have to move Mitth'raw'nuruodo from his proper name (Mitth'raw'nuruodo) to his Basic name (Thrawn). otherwise it wouldn't be fair to have some articles under their proper names, and others under their Basic names. I thought articles were suppose to use the proper name.. If that is the case, then Mando'ade should be left at Mando'ade, since that is it's proper name. 151.203.158.183 19:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Actually, we've gone over that: most users agreed that "Thrawn" was a nickname rather than his new name in Basic (as though, say, a Ukrainian man moved to a country where no one could pronounce or spell Andrukhovych properly, and asked everyone to just call him "Yuri.") —Silly Dan (talk) 21:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Still, Ulicus' reason for wanting to move Mando'ade to Mandalorian was "This is the "Basic" version of Wookieepedia, and therefore the English names should be used." If you follow that idea, then Mitth'raw'nuruodo should be moved to Thrawn, since that is what he is known as in Basic (Wether or not it is a nickname is irelevent, since he was still known as "Thrawn" in basic). My point is, if Mando'ade is moved to Mandalorian becuase of the reasons Ulicus gave (the whole "''This is the "Basic" version of Wookieepedia, and therefore the English names should be used" thing) then therefore you would also have to move Mitth'raw'nuruodo to Thrawn, becuase the same idea would apply to both articles. I, myself believe that Mando'ade should not be moved 151.203.158.183 22:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Mitth'raw'nuruodo is still Thrawn's name in basic. It doesn't become Thrawn when you "translate it into basic", "Thrawn" is simply the shortened version. Like Chris is to Christopher. I'd prefer it to be at "Thrawn", yes, but I can accept the reasoning for it being at Mitth'raw'nurodo. I cannot accept the reasoning for this article to be "Mando'ade". If someone wants to write a Mando'a Wookieepedia (which would rule), then they should feel free.(Ulicus 16:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)) 
<Sikon> it's still called Mando'ade?
<Sikon> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Mando%27ade#Change_Back_to_Mandalorian
<Darth_Culator> We should change it to "Klingon" just to see the fandos go nuts.

- Sikon [Talk] 18:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Ha ha ha ha ha...I'm not a Fandalorian, but how does one initiate proceedings to have admin status revoked? -- SFH 18:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Just chill, it's just a joke, like Earth was, I'll move it back, originally it was to see how soon "fandos" will revert the move :). - Sikon [Talk] 18:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Umm, guys... I'm no Fandalorian by a long-shot, but isn't this kind of a double-standard? While I love the word "Shibbolethy" as much as the next guy, the fact is that, other than dear Grand Admiral Thrawn, our article names for Sand People and Max Rebo, seem to indicate that we SHOULD move to the vernacular "Mando'ade". Be warned that consistency is one of the things I can be fanatical about... if we don't move this to its native tongue, a fuss will have to be raised over the other names.

Speaking of which, wouldn't the name "Mitth'raw'nuruodo" actually be in Cheunh, not Basic? It was created in the Cheunh language, and no one speaking Basic uses it. Even if it isn't a Cheunh name, who in the world of Galactic Basic uses the word "Ghorfa" for the Tuskens? -BaronGrackle 23:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • As far as the Thrawn example goes, personal names are a bit different than other words in English Basic: if you wrote an article about me, you wouldn't translate my name into English from its messy mixture of Hebrew, French, Gaelic, and Norwegian. On the other hand, an English-language encyclopedia would title articles "German people" and and "French language" rather than "Deutsche Volk" or "langue Française", because an English-language equivalent, accepted by bilingual speakers, exists. —Silly Dan (talk) 23:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, that's a convention in transition. It will take a while before all the "Francis Ferdinands" and "Sevilles" are translated, both for people and location names, but we are getting there. So what of "Ghorfa"? I would consider that an exact correlation. Shall we resume argument there? -BaronGrackle 23:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
    • The Ghorfa article is at that, primarily, so all the Ghorfa/Sandperson/Tusken Raider information can be collated in one article. Remember, they've only been Tuskens since 100 BBY and Sandpeople since around 4,000 BBY. QuentinGeorge 00:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
      • True that at the beginning "there were no Sandpeople, as there was no sand", but that's covered in the Kumumgah article, no? We've only HEARD them called Sandpeople since 4,000 BBY, but that's because our sources only go that far back. If I'm mistaken, and fluent speakers of Galactic Basic actually call them "Ghorfa" at a time period before that, then fine.

It is rough ground, considering Wikipedia and the world in general have no set policy on native name conventions. We have Metacomet for "King Philip" of the Wampanoag, but no Felipe II of España, no Philippe II of France, and no Philippos II of Macedon. It seems almost randomized which Friedrich Wilhelms of history get to keep their name, and which get bumped to "Frederick William". Like our friends the Ghorfa can't shake "Sandpeople" off of them, the Haudenosaunee will perhaps always be known as "Iroquois". But, bit by bit, I believe our conventions are reshaping for the better. Modern people of history generally get to keep their names, globes are starting to remove the ridiculously superfluous "s" in Marseille (as has Wikipedia, apparently), and, who knows? Perhaps someday countries and peoples will slowly get their proper nouns returned to them, regardless of which language is being spoken, one proper noun at a time. In the meantime, you've called my bluff. I have no intention of fighting to revert the Ghorfa to whatever random name the rest of the galaxy gave them. /rant :-) -BaronGrackle 03:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Mandalorian shipsEdit

It would be good to add list of starships used by Mandalorians, eg:

and more...

SkywalkerPL 16:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Unkown Mandalorian starshipEdit

thumb|right|unkown starship Who knows what ship is it? (on right.) If there is no article than It should be created - as Mandalorian carrier. Ship is shown in Jango Fett - Open seasons - part 2. SkywalkerPL 16:55, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

  • THX for Kuralyov for creating article. SkywalkerPL 08:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Mandalorians in the NJOEdit

Well, we've just had a little announcement from Karen Traviss, stating that the Mandos were on the side of the Yuuzhan Vong until shortly before the end of the invasion. This would be covered in A Practical Man, her e-novella set in the early beginning of the invasion, about the Mandos' reasons for joining the Vong. This was announced in Pablo Hidalgo's blog entry over at starwars.com: ComicCon Report: Legacy of the Force - Tracyn 14:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • It was first revealed in the Tales story Revenants, though as of The Unifying Force, the Mandos have apparently realized the Vong are losing the war, and have decided to liberate various worlds from the invaders - Kwenn 15:01, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, Revenants wasn't canon, or was it? Anyway, my question actually is, wether he shall add this to the article already, or wait for the novella to be released? - Tracyn 15:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

When did the Taung die off, exactly?Edit

In the article, there's nothing about how the Taung died off (if they actually did) and how the humans replaced them. When did this happen? (if it did at all...) All of the Mandalorians in Kotor I & II look human, btw.

Commander Darc 02:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

  • There's no set time for when they die off, but I remember hearing something about their losses in the Sith War having something to do with it. Kuralyov 02:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
  • The First Sith War was the beginning of the end. Mandalore the Ultimate was the last Taung Mandalore. During the Mandalorian Wars, the Mandalarians started to integrate lots of foreign people into their armies in order to compensate for their losses suffered during the First Sith War. There were not many Taungs left after the First Sith War, but the Mandalorian Wars ended in 3960 BBY with the extinction of almost the entire Mandalorian army and the death of the last Taung Mandalore, so I guess this war was the end of the beginning... RC-9393 08:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
    • There's indication that the Taung were able to crossbeed with humans, as well, so they may not be "extinct" as such. QuentinGeorge 08:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Who is the leadering figure in the mandalorian disscussionEdit

Whoever is answer me this. Can a mandalorian become a jedi like a 3 year old who olost his family and found by a jedi having force potiential? is it possible

  • hello anybody gonna answer
    • Ahem is someone going to answer
    • I'm no Mandalorian expert, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. Most people have agreed that Mira was at least technically Mandalorian, and she was probably trained as a Jedi... of course, those are unorthodox circumstances. -BaronGrackle 15:28, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
    • A mandalorian, like all other being, could be Force-sensitive, so he could be taught as a Jedi. But to be a Mando'ad, you have at least to follow the Six Actions, and one of these is to rise your children as Mando'ade. So if a Force-sensitive mando child have his parent, there no way they let a aruetyc Jedi steal their child. But if a little Mando child lost his parents, he could possibly be raise be a Jedi, but, as the Mandalorian isn't a species but a culture, this child is not really a Mando'ad... I am not sure to be clear... --Wedge Rejorhaad 08:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

SymbolEdit

I changed it because the Mythosaur skull is not the Mandalorian symbol. The Jaing skull is. Dustin Weaver has created a new symbol, afte a mistake made in issue 7 of KOTOR. The new symbol created for the KOTOR era is in fact a Mythosaur combined with the symbol of Mandalore from TOTJ. Thus Jaings skull remains the Mandalorian symbol for the present say Mandalorians. While at the same time Dustin Weavers new symbol makes both the Mythosaur and Jaing symbol Mandalorian symbols, but of different era's. Change it back if you wish, but you'll be wrong in terms of continuity.--152.163.101.9 01:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Training Mirta Gev to be the next MandaloreEdit

An anon added that to the Boba Fett article, and Nebulax reverted it, claiming it was unsourced. If there is a source, state it.--Lord OblivionSith holocron30px 02:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Mandalorian InsigniaEdit

I just uploaded an image with both the Neo Crusader era and Modern era Mandalorian symbols on it. I thought this might look nicer as the main picture, maybe? http://images-sjc.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/02/Mandalorian_Neo_Crusader_and_Modern_Era_Symbol.JPG

If not, then we can also just use the Neo Crusader era symbol somewhere else on the site, possibly?

http://images-sjc.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/da/Mandalorian_Neo_Crusader_Era_Symbol.jpg

Any suggestions? Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 01:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Firstly, I think your image with both symbols doesn't look so good, with the "Modern Era" one so distorted. But, I think we could place the Neo-Crusader symbol somewhere on the site, yes, but not at the top, because the Skull emblem is just the one everyone associates with Mandos. ~ Tracyn (Talk) 15px 10:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
    • I didn't notice that before. I don't know why it did that. I used the image from the main page for the collage. Here's a better one, if someone wants to use it. I did the same thing, but it came out non-distorted this time, for some reason. Paintshop Pro...go figure? Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 21:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

http://images-sjc.wikia.com/starwars/images/5/53/Mandalorian_Neo-Crusader_and_Modern_Era_Symbol.JPG

I have a bad feeling about thisEdit

  • Before the Fandalorians here jump on my case- I'm neither a fando or a mando-hater. I seem to recall that somewhere someone important said that not all the clone troopers can be considered Mando'ade. Maybe it was Karen Traviss's blog? Anyway, there is a large paragraph on this article about clone troopers and zilch about Boba Fett's Mandalorian warriors- Protectors I think the name was. Why? (is this tolerated?) Atarumaster88 20px (Audience Chamber) 03:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Good point x2 for Boba's Protectors, as for the clone troopers... even though all of them werent exposed/saturated to mandalorian culture, like the ARCs trained by Jango and the Republic Commandos trained by Mandalorians, some of them were. I think the majority was exposed to Dha Werda Verda... other than that probably some were curious about their prime donor, like those clones with the death watch symbol, Jaster/Boba olive/grain symbol and jaig eyes on their helmets. --Razzy1319 17:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, there is some info on Boba's Protectors in the article- the clone trooper section is just out of chronological order. I thought for sure that the regular troopers had fewer connections to Mando culture, whereas ARCs and RCs- who were trained by Mandos- had much more Mando culture. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it was Triple Zero. Atarumaster88 20px (Audience Chamber) 20:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

symbolEdit

Well if your going to have the well known symbol at the top you need to change the wording under it. It's not the mythosaur symbol, it's the symbol of Master Jaing, the training master.

The mythosaur symbol is the neo crusader symbol. Just look at the original cover to the mythosaur's first appearence in the Marvel comics. You'll notice the horns are upright as the neocrusader, while the Jaing skull and most well known Mandalorians symbol are the same.--152.163.101.9 21:49, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

InfoboxEdit

  • I have changed the infobox colour to that used for Mandalorian characters (e.g. Mandalore the Indomitable). The brown colour is usually used to represent a criminal organisation or individual. -- Volemlock 13:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks Volemlock, i forgot about that, you will find the brown on most other mando pages, i will start to change them to match. Joker1138(Mandalore) 25px
    • I am not sure if it's okay to say that the Mandalorians are an organization in the first place. For the Crusaders, Neo-Crusaders, True Mandalorians, etc., it's okay to put an infobox, but in my opinion, this just doesn't fit on the Mandalorian article--especially because it's a "religion"-infobox, and the Mandos are more than that. Also, you can't really say that their deity is "The Mandalore", because that strongly depends on the timeframe you regard it. In the days of the Taung, it might've fitted, but in the days of Legacy, I highly doubt it. ~ Tracyn (Talk) 15px 17:58, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Other VersionsEdit

  • I have heared other versions of the Mandalorian history. How about mentioning in "Behind the Scenes" that there are non-canon versions and their origins? Or are all of them just fanon? It would be nice to have more information on this matter though.--Pi314 09:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, it depends. If it's from a semi-legitimate source, then it deserves a mention in the BTS section. If it's something you read over at the Fanon Wiki or a friend of your made up, then not so much. I guess if it's a widely held or widely reported version then it would deserve mention. Does that help? Atarumaster88 20px (Audience Chamber) 23:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Interesting?Edit

Seeing as the Mandalorians are a military culture that would make sense. Good call. Anyway, I was wondering how concrete the evidence is for supporting the Mandalorian Clan section? I mean I can understand there being a Fett Clan and even an Ordo Clan but I haven't found anything on Skirata and Beviin. (And I've been searching hard) So if anyone could be helpful in pointing me too the source I'd be most grateful. ~ Asharpone11 ~

mandalorian historyEdit

i have found a site with large partions of very early mandalorian history´, but im not sure if its canon. here is a link link --85.228.197.1 19:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Retired troopersEdit

Where does this information about retired clones moving to a world near Mandalore come from?--CT-5619 helmet comlink 21:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

InflectionEdit

This article states that the Mandalorians in KotOR II mostly have an australian accent. This in accurate; the accent is supposed to resemble that of Temura Morrison (the Māori actor who voiced Jango Fett), who was born in New Zealand and has a strong Māori accent. Thus, the accent should be listed as either Māori or New Zealand.--75.48.5.18 05:24, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Regardless of what the accent is meant to be based on, the accent of the Kotor II Mandalorians sounds nothing like a New Zealand accent, it is far more similar to Australian. Shouldn't the article state that they sound Australian? User talk:Chaota 7.15PM, May 17, 2007
  • Morrison is not speaking with a "Maori" accent. He is speaking the exact same accent that any New Zealander speaks with, be they Maori or Pakeha. QuentinGeorge 07:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Future MandaloreEdit

In the part about the future of mandalore this article states that Fett decides to train Mirta to be the next mandalore. But throughout Legacy of the force Fett has mentioned that he wants Goran Beviin to succeed him as mandalore.I have not seen any mention in the books about Fett training Mirta to be the next mandalore.If this has been mentioned somewhere by the authors somewhere else then fine but otherwise i think changes must be made about this.Kindly let me know if i should change that part or is it correct. SidDarth 11:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)SidDarth

  • Yeah, it's probably obsolete speculation. Feel free to rewrite that section. -LtNOWIS 12:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

The Force UnleashedEdit

There is a Mandalorian in the new video from the Force Unleashed website, (or at least someone in Mando Armor) does anybody know what capacity he serves in? I assume he's a boss, though I suppose he could be a high-level mob. At any rate, until I get some hard facts, I'm going to refrain from posting any stupid speculation on either this of the TFU article. Luckyluke37 20:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

  • That's the Secret Apprentice if he becomes a Sith Lord. I'm not sure if it's Mando armor, but it looks pretty kriffing close.. --The Wolfe22 20:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Vergere QuoteEdit

Where is that Vergere quote about explaining politics to the Yuuzhan Vong from, I've never heard it before.... Jedi-Sith 17:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

  • It can be seen somewhere in Boba Fett: A Practical Man, by Karen Traviss. --The Wolfe22 20:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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