Talk:Medrit Vasur
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I see we're probably going to have to semi-protect both this page and the page of Goran Beviin pretty soon...StarNeptuneTalk to me! 21:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yup. Another Juhani page all over again. Why does Star Wars seem to attract all these homophobes? QuentinGeorge 21:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think it's Star Wars attracting them, just that they've royally vocal about it. There's the same type of reaction to gay characters appearing in Star Trek literature. DGCatAniSiri 00:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- The way I see it is this: Why even bring these things into Star Wars? Many people escape into Star Wars to get away from the world's controversy. You're only going to create conflict within their safe zones. Is it really worth ruining that for the sake of making your own political statements? It's kind of selfish, really. That's why I'm opposed anyway. 129.107.81.12 10:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I escape into SW to get away from petty, small-minded bigots. Thanos6 10:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- There are topics that can be debated calmly (example: to what extent was the Empire evil?), and there are topics that people will only fight about and get nowhere (such as abortion). I'd rather not see any of those (the heated argument ones) topics in Star Wars. There's freedom of speech, and then there's responsibility of speech, creating characters that you are fully aware will cause controversy and heated argument is just plain irresponsible. There are contraversial issues that have been established and settled over the years, such as slavery, in Star Wars, but those have been settled for years now, and is not an argued topic. If you ask people what they think about slavery, the argument, if it even arises, would probably be settled in a matter of minutes, whereas if you did the same with homosexuality, it would likely not be settled at all, and everyone would just leave frustrated. It's a frustrating topic for almost everyone for one reason or another (regardless of stance), and should simply be left out of an escape. There are already enough places for heated arguing, Star Wars shouldn't be one of them.Heavy Metal Is The Law 17:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- First, this is encyclopedia so we catalogue Star Wars whether we like a given element or not. For example, I'm sure some contributors and readers could do without Jar Jar, but there you go. Second, who says fiction needs to be a safe zone for everyone's opinions? There was a time when slavery was not almost universally condemned, when in fact publishing a work that was critical of the practice would be controversial. Were those authors wrong or irresponsible because they expressed an opinion? (And in this case any opinion in the work is pretty implicit. I don't think any of the books stated that Goran and Medrit should be gay, just that they are gay. I think even most fans who do object to homosexuality would find say, genocide or a husband strangling his wife to be worse, but we see that sort of thing in the saga all the time.) The bottom line is no one has to read, watch, or play a controversial work if they don't want to, but LFL is under no obligation to license only non-controversial works.--160.94.47.16 16:05, April 6, 2010 (UTC)nameless one
- There are topics that can be debated calmly (example: to what extent was the Empire evil?), and there are topics that people will only fight about and get nowhere (such as abortion). I'd rather not see any of those (the heated argument ones) topics in Star Wars. There's freedom of speech, and then there's responsibility of speech, creating characters that you are fully aware will cause controversy and heated argument is just plain irresponsible. There are contraversial issues that have been established and settled over the years, such as slavery, in Star Wars, but those have been settled for years now, and is not an argued topic. If you ask people what they think about slavery, the argument, if it even arises, would probably be settled in a matter of minutes, whereas if you did the same with homosexuality, it would likely not be settled at all, and everyone would just leave frustrated. It's a frustrating topic for almost everyone for one reason or another (regardless of stance), and should simply be left out of an escape. There are already enough places for heated arguing, Star Wars shouldn't be one of them.Heavy Metal Is The Law 17:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I escape into SW to get away from petty, small-minded bigots. Thanos6 10:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
What I don't get is Star Wars is set in a society 1000's of years more advanced then our own and people are expecting what? That they think homosexuality's wrong? It's a bit stupid, especially since they don't have many of the motivators for homophobia we do and it's a whole other world. I like how that they're not stereotypical gay people. These are strong willed warriors which I think is a perfect role-model for gay people.
Just accept they're there. They're fairly minor characters and it's not as if they've done anything explicit.--Shadowhive 15:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I have a question, I've read most of the 'Legacy' series and I honestly had no idea Beviin and Medrit were lovers. adoption is the custom for Mandalorians, hence extended families and such. where does it say they were intimate? doesn't matter either way, I just wanna know, I figured I was a pretty fair reader until this came up. did I skip some words?
The first homosexual?
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"Goran and Medrit the first explicitly homosexual couple in Star Wars literature"
- Is the above considered true because the Juhani romance was deemed non-canon in favor of the male-Revan/Bastila romance? What about the implied romance between Juhani and Belaya, which is still canon? Is the concern that the Belaya romance is implied and not "explicit"? I ask because, though that makes sense, the wording of the sentence seems to be talking about "canon" and not "implied" vs. "explicit". Thoughts? fodigg
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Hypocrites!!!
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Its funny how people come out so easily and quickly to defend this but not racist comments about Mace Windu! —Unsigned comment by 99.244.226.50 (talk • contribs).