Lucas claimEdit

"R2-D2, however, retained his memories since his time on Naboo, and, according to George Lucas, related the tale of the Skywalkers to a Shaman of the Whills some one hundred years after the fall of the Empire." -- Is there a source for this? If not, it doesn't even deserve a Behind the Scenes section.--SparqMan 23:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

• From ANH Novelization, "From the First Saga, The Journal of the Whills." As this is not contridicted by higher canon, we are left with the fact that at least ANH (and most likely all the other films, and possibly more) are recountings of this tale of long ago. R2-D2 is not mentioned as the source of the stories, nor is there any other info on the Whills. It is just conjecture, but a resonable one. Someone must have told the Whills of the saga, and R2-D2 seems the most likely candidate. Just my read on it.--Eion 23:33, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Reasonable conjecture, but still conjecture. Unless you know differently from reading the Episode III novelizationSilly Dan 00:24, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
    • I've been looking around for the quote from Lucas, haven't found it, but the claim is very common across the web (not that that is proof of anything), so it is either widely held fanon, or I just haven't found the quote. As far as EP III goes, it doesn't help us in this regard at all, so I removed the spoiler warning.--Eion 00:27, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
• What I've heard is that the Whills are some sort of omniscient beings, little gods in a way. If this is the case, then they would not need to have the story related to them. I did some Googling and found a webpage that explains some of this. Note this Lucas quote:

  "Originally, I was trying to have the story be told by somebody else; there was somebody watching this whole story and recording it, somebody probably wiser than the mortal players in the actual events," explains Lucas in Star Wars: The Annotated Screenplays. "I eventually dropped this idea, and the concepts behind the Whills turned into the Force.

– Aidje _talk 00:30, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

• Apparently, the reference regarding R2 is in The Making of Revenge of the Sith, on page 72. As I don't own this book, I can't verify it myself. The quote gets discussed a bit here, slightly sanitized for our protection. JSarek 00:42, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • "'George remarks to Rob Coleman that the story of Star Wars is actually recounted by R2-D2... one hundred years after Return of the Jedi.' - The Making of Revenge of the Sith, p. 72"

I'll take that as proof.--Eion 00:45, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

• Conjecture helps no one. Is a quotation of an offhand remark canonical? --SparqMan 01:00, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Lucas did not think the remark offhand enough to strike it from the publication, as I'm sure he had the ability to do so. And though the insights of the flannel one do not fall in the canon hierarchy, the excerpt is in regards to a behind the scenes comment, and as such is itself outside canon.--Eion 01:03, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Well at present, it's in the IU content. I'll move it to BtS on the R2-D2 article. On a side note, don't the post-film release novelizations (which lack the Whills attribution) counteract the pre-film release? --SparqMan 01:06, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Hmm, now that I don't know, but even so (it would make sense to apply the SE outranks the Theatrical Release formula), it is not enough for it to be absent from a newer version, it must be contradicted, so unless it supplies an updated IU explanation for the saga, the original remains valid.--Eion 01:10, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Owen's MotiveEdit

Question, is there proof that Lars wanted C3PO and R2D2's memory wiped to protect Luke from his heritage? Or was it simply a matter of that was teh general policy when you bought potentially stolen droids from Jawas?

Seeing as that it was after Luke mentioned Obi-Wan, did Owen do anything, it can be inferred that it had more to do with protecting Luke than following consumer protocol.

• I was going to ask the same thing. I'm tagging that as needing a source. —Gonk ^(Gonk!) 18:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • It sounds very fishy to me. Chack Jadson 20:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

C-3POEdit

Quick question... If memory wipes completely remove acquired personalities, why did Threepio's remain largely the same afterward? --68.225.252.94 06:56, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone? --68.225.252.94 20:48, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

• As we saw when he was first activated in The Phantom Menace, C-3PO was created with that personality; he may have picked up some quirks here and there that got erased, but the big broad strokes are a part of his initial condition, not the result of acquired life experience. jSarek 21:19, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

So his personality is pretty much because he's homemade, whereas a mass-produced droid that gets a memory wipe is reduced to no personality? --68.225.252.94 23:06, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

• All droids that are expected to interact with organics come stock with a personality of some sort. But, like people, those personalities develop, grow, and change over time as the droid acquires experiences. A memory wipe erases all of those experiences, reverting the droid to its stock personality. Stock personalities are normally pretty shallow - think of most of the R-series astromech droids we've seen besides R2-D2 - but protocol droids like the 3PO series need to have fairly complex personalities "out of the box" so they can do their jobs properly. jSarek 23:29, February 21, 2010 (UTC)