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MandaloriansEdit

"The Mandalorians also used nuclear bombs during the Mandalorian Wars." Is this true? --Imp 14:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, it is. I dunno what the source was back that was written, but they were shown in KOTOR 15. -LtNOWIS 01:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
    • The source was KotOR 2. Atton states that the Stereb cities were "nuked into glass craters".--76.104.136.71 17:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Star Wars: X-Wing Edit

This page says that a nuclear bomb was what Keyan Farlander used to destroy Invincible, but I don't know whether that's accurate. --Andrew Nagy 20:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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Yield and Effect The page makes mention to only one type of nuclear missile, which level stuff within 30Km. Sufficient for destroying a city, but not scorching a planet. This information is also un sourced. Nuclear weapons in STAR WARS can also be way more powerful, but this also goes un-mentioned.

I just measured the Mandalorian nuclear explosions on the very same page. I placed the picture onto Earth so that the curvatures are equal, and compared the fireball and visible shockwave diameters to the planet.

The fireball is ~1 / 34th the planets diameter. The shock-wave visible from space is ~1 / 16th the planets diameter.

If this were Alderaan which is 12,500Km in diameter, then the fireball would be ~368 kilimetres wide, and the visible from space shockwave would be 781 kilometres wide.

Go to Nuke Map (type it on google) and when you enter a map of the world should open, with an option to detonate nukes to see their destructive radiuses. Plug in this number to where it says kilotons: 16,500,000,000

The most powerful real world bomb is the Tsar, ~50 megatons. The above figure is 16.5 million megatons -- or 16.5 teratons. 330,000 times more powerful than the most powerful RL nuke ever detonated. The KT event was 100 teratons.

I think more detail should go into these very powerful nukes, the ones currently talked about are literally a hundred thousand times less powerful.

  • Keep in mind, real world rules do not necessarily apply here. Also, unless an official source confirms your information, it is speculation. Supreme Emperor (talk) 23:15, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
    • Also, keep in mind that Fission bombs aren't even the most powerful nuclear bombs in RL, surpassed in capacity by Fusion (H-) bombs. With advanced technology, both methods can be enhanced, e.g. by creating a much more heavy nucleus (which might be stabilized until explosion by some other advanced technology) which can split several times, unleashing energy with every split, or making the fusion products of the fusion bomb fusing again.

An even more violent explosion could be generated by using antimatter, a few milligrams of which already having the yield of a nowadays' nuclear bomb. Strictly speaking, the term "nuclear bomb" would not apply anymore in this case, since matter-antimatter annihilation goes beyond those pathetic little nuclear reactions, but I don't think that the ones using such a bomb would be that careful with the nomenclature. --217.81.199.125 19:17, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

      • --Fusion is indeed far more powerful than fission. The most powerful H-bomb ever detonated was >50 megatons, the bombs depicted in the art are 16,500,000 megatons (both the fireball R and the high energy shock wave are consistent with a nuke of that yield); and even if we reduce planet radius to the smallest feasible, >9000KM, it would be in the teratons. Any less and the planet would have to be denser than iron in order to have substantial gravity.

Matter can be annihilated with antimatter to be transformed into 9e16 joules of energy per kilogram. To reach 16.5 teratons you'd need to annihilate >767 tons of matter (half of that being anti-matter). Let alone a few milligrams :).

The modern theoretical limit on nuclear bomb yield to weight ratios is 6 megatons of energy per metric ton. A modern nuke would have to mass 2,750,000 tons to create a fireball and shockwave as large as the Mandalorian ones.

This may sound a lot, but even at the density of water it would be 144 meters cubed (well, that is a lot). The Complete Vehicles(DK) states that starship fuels are stored at densities orders of magnitude denser than the ship (plural, means at least two zeroes, implying at least hundreds of tons per cubic meter, if not thousands or more), and thousands of tons must be annihilated per second in order to provide enough power for thousand G thrust, which makes sense.

Provided that, it seems very feasible that the nukes could be superdense explaining the multi-teraton yield effects using mere nuclear tech and reasonable sized torpedoes. At 100 ton / M^3 the nuke would only be a cube 14 meters per side to yield >16 teratons. So using canon techs you can easily do it, but why they don't use matter annihilation fuels instead is a bit strange (seeing their reactors do, ISD's generate e25 watts like that). Yea, I'm a bit of a techie when it comes to SW ^^..--ImpiTech (talk) 20:13, August 14, 2013 (UTC)