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"On Mygeeto, tri-droids were used against Jedi master Ki-Adi-Mundi´s forces, blowing up several tanks. ... On Coruscant, a tri-droid tried to kill master Windu with it´s beam weapon, but he reflected it back at the droid." Are we going to list every time a Stormtrooper shot at someone too? --SparqMan 13:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • These were just the most famous (and only) moments of the tri-droid's appearance. No need to get snarky. VT-16 10:03, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Octupurra Edit

Wasnt it called Octapurra Droid or something?

  • They were two different types of droid. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:37, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Tri-Droids on Coruscant in Clone Wars? Edit

Aren't those Octuptarra droids, Tri-Droids shoot rockets not lazer beams like the Octuptarra Droid.--Rune Haako 01:13, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Considering the fact that a) the height is the only difference and b) the mirco-series has gotten things wrong, it could be either one. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:19, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind.--Rune Haako 19:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Okay, then... Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I wouldn't categorically say its gotten things wrong (apart from some possible aspects of Palpatine's kidnapping). Could be they're a third type of tri-droid, shooting red beam weapons. VT-16 12:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Or perhaps the tri-droid uses different types of lasers? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 12:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Nope, only says it used ordnance launchers, no beam weapons. It's probably a third type, then. And I notice the Databank does differentiate between the octuptarra and tri-droid, the latter being an upscaled version of the former. VT-16 12:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

NamesEdit

The Wiki is currently mistaken. The terms "octuptarra droid" and "tri-droid" are synonyms. Either term can be used for the giant or small version. Go read the actual text of the DB entries. The distinction of name in DB titles is simply to make things easier. "An example of the Techno Union's modular, scalable manufacturing techniques, enormous versions of the octuptarra model are unleashed on the battlefield as combat artillery, but the battle droid-sized antipersonnel model trades terrorizing scale for agility." Note that this quote refers to the big ones as "octuptarra droids" just as the small ones are so-called. JustinGann 04:38, 6 April 2006 (PDT)

  • "The tri-droids are gigantic versions of the smaller anti-infantry octuptarra droids"; octuptarra are anti-infantry, tri-droids are anti-artillery. They are two different variants, thus we use the two different names to identify them - Kwenn 12:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Exactly. Plus, the databank has screwed up before; this is yet another mistake. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) Imperial Emblem.svg 19:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Chronicles: Prequels confirms that octuptarra and tri-droid are interchangeable names used for both sizes.JustinGann 20:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Then why the hell are there two names? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 22:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
      • I thought even the official databank separated the two. Octuptarra was the small models and tri-droids the big ones. VT-16 11:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
        • Even if they are interchangeable names, the fact remains that there are two distinct models; small anti-infantry and large anti-artillery. Thus, we, as the Databank does, should differentiate the two with the provided names - Kwenn 12:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
          • I agree. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 22:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
          • Adding to this, are the giant crab droids seen in SW:CW. They were mentiond as being different from the smaller "muckrackers" as well, similar to the tri-droids. We should have a pic and separate profile on them, as well. VT-16 12:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
            • Perhaps at giant crab droid? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 12:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
              • No, they say they were all variants of the same model. Maybe that name, plus (mobile armor) next to it? VT-16 12:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
                • Actually, now that I think about it, there were apparently large and small crab droids, and the only real difference was the size and the bubble wort projectors on the larger version. How about a section in crab droid instead? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 13:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
                  • Fine with me. VT-16 14:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
                  • Okay. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 14:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
                    • New Essential Guide to Droids confirmed what I said before, which was in the Databank, that Octuptarra and Tri-droid are interchangeable terms which can be applied to any size variety, either the anti-personnel or anti-vehicle model.JustinGann 21:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Main infobox image Edit

Jack, the only problem with the NEGVV picture in the infobox is that it ISN'T a Tri-droid. It is an Octuptarra droid. Hence, the other image stays because it is an actual Tri-droid. - JMAS 19:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

  • No, they are the same droid. Regardless of what the file name says, they are the same. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 20:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
    • No, actually, they are not. Do not change it back. - JMAS 20:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Put the pictures side-by-side. They are the same. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 20:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
        • I'll draw your attention to your own comments above under the heading Octuptarra. Thank you. Case closed. The Tri-droid is a larger droid than the Octuptarra. Would an Admin please settle this. I'll abide by what their decision is. - JMAS 20:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
          • JMAS, look at both pictures. Regardless of what I said above, those images show the exact same droid in the exact position. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 20:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
            • Looks to me more like they have very similar droids in similar positions. It seems like "Octuptarra droid" and "tri-droid" are basically synonyms, so either picture could represent the subject of this article. However, as the version from Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels has a Human next to it for scale, it's slightly more informative, and therefore preferable in my eyes. —Silly Dan (talk) 20:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
              • Actually, in design, they look almost identical. But the Tri-droid is huge, designed to take out vehicles such as the UT-AT. The Octuptarra was a smaller version mean to take out infantry soldiers. - JMAS 20:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
                • Hey, well, Chewbacca and Tarfful look pretty similar, right? One's only a bit bigger than the other, so let's treat them as one person! - \\Captain Kwenn// Ahoy! 20:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
                  • OK, I'm willing to concede on this one, based soley on the fact of the "feet" of each of the two droids. However, the SW.com databank entry is grossly in error then claiming that the Tri-droid is only 3.7 meters tall, when the Octuptarra is is 3.6 meters tall. Yet the Tri-droid is described as being gigantic in comparison. - JMAS 21:13, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
                    • <sigh> They are the same droid. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 23:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
                      • Same model, diffrent size, exact same "blueprint", scaleable factories, not an opinion, end of story.--ShadowTrooper 02:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
                        • Those droids are the same. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 13:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
                          • Jack, I agree with you that on the NEGVV image, it was an Octuptarra. But go look at the databank entries for them both. They are designed from the same blueprint, but the Tri-droid is built on a much larger scale. And as such, they had to alter the weapons configurement, the "foot" configurement, etc. So, yes, they are related. They are cousins, if you will, to each other, siblings even. They are not twins. - JMAS 13:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
                            • 1) The Databank's been wrong before. 2) The TNEGtD image is a tri-droid, just like the one in the current main picture. And I'm completely aware that the tri-droid and Octuptarra combat tri-droid are related. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 13:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
                              • Sorry, I meant to say the NEGVV image was not the Octuptarra. And I realize the databank is incorrect sometimes. However, the only thing wrong with the databank entry in this case is the size of the Tri-droid being only 3.7 meters. Clearly, the tri-droid is much larger than the Octuptarra, as shown by the Chronicles image that I uploaded and put in the Tri-droid article, which shows a Clone trooper next to it for size comparison. - JMAS 14:10, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

3.7 meters? Really? Edit

Inigo Montoya 01:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

  • If sources say so, yes. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 12:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
    • You don't find that hard to swallow, though? At all? Look at the diagram, it's more like 30+ meters. Inigo Montoya 02:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Wow, that picture definitely does not show 3.7 meters. What's the source on the number? Could it be referring to a different model or something? - Lord Hydronium 02:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
        • The source is the Databank. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 11:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
          • Hm, according to the Databank, "The tri-droids are gigantic versions of the smaller anti-infantry octuptarra droids," and they say the octuptarra droids are 3.6 meters. I think somebody screwed up. - Lord Hydronium 12:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
            • Yeah, the databank is clearly incorrect on this one. And there is nothing we can do until they change it. - JMAS 13:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Anyone who's seen ROTS know that those tri-droids are not 3.7 meters tall. In the establishing shots they tower over Republic UT-ATs and when shooting at them in the very next shot, has the rocket fly downwards in order to hit the UT-AT. And in both shots, the clone troopers are nothing but specks in comparison. VT-16 20:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Perhaps they forgot a zero. Maybe it's really 30.7 meters. Or it could be 37 meters. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 20:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
      • It looks slightly smaller than an AT-AT. Going by Luke's ascent in ESB, the walker seems larger than this droid. But it's definitely not much shorter. VT-16 20:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
        • I see. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 20:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
          • That is exactly what I thought, Jack. Maybe the staff at sw.com forgot a 0 in there. Looking at the main image with the clone trooper for size comparison, 30.7 meters would be about right. - JMAS 21:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
  • From Leeland:

Me: Isn't the Tri-droid from Ep. III much taller than 3.7 meters, as described in the databank? Leeland: That's why they're described as "scalable."

The out of universe explanation is that in the age of CG, trying to figure out exact dimensions based on film shots can drive you crazy because things get resized for the sole purpose of looking pretty in the composition of a shot. So a vehicle might have certain dimensions in one shot and different dimensions in another shot. When the CG model is created, the artists come up with approximate dimensions. Lacking any harder calculations from the films, we often go with the artists' original dimensions.

  • That's nice and all, but following dimensions that small still won't make that missile do anything but go in a downwards motion. If they wanted the tri-droids on Mygeeto to be smaller, they shouldn't have had them towering over the UT-ATs and clones in their two, brief scenes. This is basically the Executor and Home One debate for the digital age. Nothing will get those ships to be smaller than presented in G-canon except for FX artists going back and changing them. Same for the Mygeeto tri-droids. VT-16 22:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Did anybody point out to him that they're larger in every single other piece of canon, including the text for that same Databank entry? - Lord Hydronium 00:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
      • We definitely need Leland to fix this. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem.svg 00:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
        • Maybe this brings some clearance: "Infinitely scalable and highly versatile, tri-droids in various forms saw combat on a number of worlds during the Clone Wars. Most were sized to integrate seamlessly into the Droid Army ranks, but their efficiency of design allowed for even more massive versions that towered over the forces of the Republic." thats the text from the cardback of hasbros tri-droid action figure. HollenthoN 12:05, 13 March 2008 (CET)

The Tri-droid is way to big to be 3.7 meters tall. some one screwed up. Big time.30,7 sounds about right though.-(OOM-01 19:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC))

I think the Tri-droid is about 10.98 meters tall don't believe me? Go to the pic on the page with Bacara standing next to one.CC-2223 15:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

  • The 3.7 meters described in the databank only refers to the size of the head.--Lop-Har Kela 17:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Tri-droid and Octuptarra combat tri-droid: Same droid, just different heights? Edit

I've been under the impression that the tri-droid and the octuptarra combat tri-droid are different-sized versions of the same droid model. They look identical. We already know that the CIS used different-sized versions of the LM-432 crab droid, so it's not impossible that the tri-droid has models ranging from incredibly tall to infantry sized. I think the two articles should be merged, preferably under the octuptarra combat tri-droid name. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 20:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

  • While the images ARE different (look at the laser cannons and the photoreceptors above them), I'm actually going to second this. I actually just bought the action figure for the Tri-Droid today, and the figure is clearly based on the "larger" model, but the toy itself is scaled at about 3 and a half meters tall, like the "smaller" one. The packaging even says that the Tri-Droid is scalable and that there are massive versions who tower over the battlefield, leading me to believe that the two droids are the same thing. --Xenomrph 00:23, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
    • i already quotet that above ;-). same droids. HollenthoN 12:10, 16 May 2008 (CET)

Agreed. -Flashfire212

  • No!!! The droids are different models. Yes, they look the similar but they aren't the same droids. It's like saying that the A5 Juggernaut and the A6 Juggernauts are the same - they aren't. Commanderbly42 17:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
    • All the evidence points toward them being the same droid. The crab droid, after all, has different-sized versions, yet they're all the same droid. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 19:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes but none of the Crab Droid variants have been given an official name. If anything, because it is called an Octuptarra combat tri-droid which seems to imply that the Octuptarra Droid is a variant of the Tri-droid, if they have to be merged, it should be that article to this one. Commanderbly42 22:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Even if the different-sized versions - not variants - of the crab droid would be given separate names, they'd still be the same droid model. The same goes for the tri-droid and octuptarra combat tri-droid, which is why these two pages need to be merged. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 23:14, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
    • According to some sources, they are diffrent droids. For example, this line "Tri Droids were used generl Ki-whatever Mundi's forces on Mygeeto.--OOM-1
      • That doesn't say they were different droids. It just says that tri-droids were used against Ki-Adi-Mundi's forces on Mygeeto. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 00:24, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
    • But it didn't say enlarged Occtuptarra Droids were used against Mundi's force eithier. Also the Databank mantains they were diffrent droids..--OOM-1
      • The Databank says that the two droids are the same model, just with slight modifications. I'm quoting from the Octuptarra entry: "An example of the Techno Union's modular, scalable manufacturing techniques, enormous versions of the octuptarra model are unleashed on the battlefield as combat artillery, but the battle droid-sized antipersonnel model trades terrorizing scale for agility." Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Then perhaps there are gaint Octuptarra Droids wondering about. But as of yet I see no proof the the Tri-Droid is just an enlarged Octuptarra Droid, they are many cosmetic diffrences and the Databank does not state that the Tri-Droid is indeed an enlarged Octuptarra Droids.-(OOM-01 19:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC))
          • The quote I provided proves they are the same droid model, with minor differences. I'm sorry, but if you continue to refute this truth from the Databank, I will simply disregard any further statements of yours. I have provided proof that they are the same model; you, on the other hand, have yet to provide anything to support your claim. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
            • I just realized, this has been covered before..look at the names section of this article...-(OOM-01 19:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC))
              • If JustinGann is correct in saying that Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels states that Octuptarra and tri-droid can be used interchangably for both sizes, then these articles need to be merged. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 17:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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