Talk: Old Republic

Redirects

So, this is probably the biggest example of taking a Legends redirect to make a Canon page out of it. As a result, there are hundreds of Legends pages that link to Old Republic that now need to link to Galactic Republic. I have asked Cade to run RoboCade to accomplish this, and he has indicated that he will do so when he is able. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 00:03, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

In Star Wars Rebels: Head to Head, it states that Wulffwarro "has a deep appreciation for the ways of the Jedi Knights and the ideals of the Old Republic," almost certainly in reference to the Galactic Republic. Hmm... ProfessorTofty (talk) 17:55, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Unless specifically stated as referencing this ancient Old Republic, anything after the rise of the Empire where they say "Old Republic" should be taken to be referencing the Galactic Republic. In a preview clip for Spark of Rebellion, Hera also says that the Wookiees in question were soldiers for the Old Republic, clearly referencing the Galactic Republic. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 18:00, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Makes sense. Thanks. In that case, I'll just clear out the note about that from the Head to Head page, since it really isn't necessary. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:28, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Fell

It says in the article that the old republic "fell." I am pretty sure it was just reorganized. The government body was very similar.

65.216.158.74 18:06, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

• Pre Vizsla specifically refers to "the fall of the Old Republic," and that the darksaber was stolen from the Jedi Temple during that time. That's the only information we have, so that's all we can go with. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 18:37, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Speculation?

What did I say that was speculation? All I did was switch the wording to make it seem less confusing.

The use of the word "which" makes it sound as if it is referring to the Old Republic. Yes, what the wiki user put was speculation, but I re-edited it, dividing the single sentence into two. We know that the Old Republic was dissolved 1000 years before the Clone Wars.

Darth Ravigious (talk) 21:52, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

• The word "dissolved" has a specific meaning. What we know is that the Old Republic "fell," whereas dissolved refers more to closing down or reorganization. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 22:02, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Mandalorian Wars?

Is the conflict when the Mandalorians took the Darksaber a reference to the Mandalorian Wars from Legends? Should it be added to behind the scenes? Knightmare · [Talk]  05:13, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

I always assumed the Mandalorian Wars existed, due to the talks of numerous conflicts between the Jedi/Republic and Mandos. However, I think the darksaber was stolen during anothger conflict. Vizla said that his ancestor stole it from the Temple many years ago when Coruscant was attacked. I always assumed it was Shae Vizla during the Sacking of Coruscant. Darth Ravigious (talk) 16:46, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

New Stuff?

What does "Star Wars Propaganda: A History of Persuasive Art in the Galaxy" say about the Old Republic? 62.198.31.37 22:17, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

1032

Do we actually know it was founded in exactly 1032? As if there's no chance a thousand years was just an estimation? Mmwa (talk) 18:04, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

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• According to this thread it was said in Entertainment Weekly's Ultimate Guide to Rogue One that 1032 BBY was the year it was founded. Are we treating the dates from the entertainment weekly article as canon? --Lewisr (talk) 03:43, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

It says:

"The democratic Galactic Republic, led by an elected Supreme Chancellor and supported by the Jedi Order, governs the galaxy through a thousand-year era of peace and prosperity"

Could've easily been rounding like most other references seem to be. Besides, it never says when this era of prosperity ends. Implied it could be TPM, but the Clone Wars would make as much or even more sense. All in all, I think it's too vague to be sure.

Besides, pretty sure from reading it and the context that this isn't a good source for new in-universe canonical info; the facts are accurate but all from stuff we've seen before.

Korriban Academy Image

Is there a reason why that specific image of the Korriban academy is used in this article? Has it been used in any canon sources lately? If not, I don't think it should be here as I've only ever seen that used in Legends sources. --Vid0907 19:10, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

• Yeah. That was actually my mistake. I am in the midst of expanding this article and will finish so in due time. Thanks for pointing it out though. I wasn't really thinking about it when I added it :P Darth Ravigious (talk) 23:13, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Merging

Has their been talks about the article merging with the Galactic Republic?--2600:1700:CAC0:6CB0:43B:3490:8F5F:3F9B 11:13, June 19, 2018 (UTC)

• Not really, since in canon they haven't really been established as the same government--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 11:42, June 19, 2018 (UTC)
• They were established as the same goverment in Episode IV. Every time someone references the Galactic Republic they call it The Old Republic. I would not stick with what TCW says, as it's proven itself to ignore both canon and Legends, and keep making stuff up. --Anonymous —Unsigned comment by 83.7.214.198 (talk • contribs).
  • TCW does not ignore canon, it's one of the important pieces of it. Episode IV does not merge Old Republic and Galactic Republic, but rather that the Galactic Republic was also referred to as the Old Republic during the Imperial Era. There are sources that use Old Republic while the Galactic Republic was active. This is also supported by the Galactic Empire being known as the Old Empire during the events of the sequel trilogy.--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 00:44, January 10, 2020 (UTC)
    • Star Wars Propaganda: A History of Persuasive Art in the Galaxy states that the Republic's victory over the Sith was so definitive that it reinvented itself. History reset its chrono and the modern Galactic Republic was born, and that the time before was forgotten as a dark age lumped into a collective whole known as the "Old Republic". I guess that could be argued either way in favour of merging or keeping separate but I think its best to keep it separate --Lewisr (talk) 00:58, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

Name change

Perhaps someone who listened to Dooku: Jedi Lost can provide more context but would it be better to rename this article to "High Republic"? My reasoning is that after the rise of the Galactic Empire, the Galactic Republic was referred to as the "Old Republic." After the fall of the Empire, it was called the Old Empire. It's an assumption, so again anyone who listened to the audio drama can provide more context, but it's fair to assume that High Republic is the more official name of the two, and once it fell it became the Old Republic, just like the Galactic Republic became the Old Republic (version 2), and the Galactic Empire became the Old Empire.--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 02:01, July 5, 2019 (UTC)

• There wasn't even a mention that the Old Republic was the same as the High Republic. High Republic could be an era as suggested here--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 02:12, July 5, 2019 (UTC)
  • Ah, thanks for finding that. I'll go ahead and remove it from the article--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 02:15, July 5, 2019 (UTC)

Merge?

As Thrawn Ascendancy: Chaos Rising states that the Old Republic was also known as the Galactic Republic, there is a case to be made that the articles should be merged. I am aware that Propaganda states that the Republic was reinvented after the apparent final defeat of the Sith, and this was enough to get the two Republics different pages. However, since they both had the same name, it seems to me it's becoming more like the Legends situation where the same Republic existed before and after the Ruusan Reformation, just reorganized considerably, and this needs to be discussed. SilverSunbird (talk) 00:35, September 3, 2020 (UTC)

• I say merge them.--Jkirk8907 (talk) 01:27, September 3, 2020 (UTC)
  • "The Republic victory was so definitive that it reinvented itself, resettling its capital on Coruscant after a devastating ouster. History reset its chrono on this date, and from that moment, the modern Galactic Republic was born. Societal memories and official calendars started fresh, and the time before this rebirth was forgotten as a dark age, lumped into a collective whole known as the “Old Republic". If you look at "Old Republic", it's written like a colloquial term, because overall it refers to different eras i.e. New Republic to pre-19 BBY Galactic Republic and so on. The book only has two mentions of "Old Republic", the other is not related to the pre-1000 BBY one. People in-universe wouldn't call the Republic before the Jedi-Sith War, the "Old Republic". Also, see the term "modern Galactic Republic". The quote above just doesn't cut it for a separate page, which seems where the page got most of its info from. So I'll say merge. Kind regards —Tomotron ^{(Star Forge)} 02:32, September 3, 2020 (UTC)
    • Merge. JRT2010 (talk) 19:51, September 3, 2020 (UTC)
      • A change this big, I think it would be best to bring this to the Consensus track. - - - OOM 224 ༼༽^{talk}༼༽ 20:37, September 3, 2020 (UTC)
        • Okay then; see here for further discussion. SilverSunbird (talk) 21:30, September 3, 2020 (UTC)