Talk:Onderon
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[edit] System, sector, region
So, is it Onderon system or Japreal system? (It's Japreal, not Japrael.) Inner Rim or Outer Rim? KOTOR II places it in the Outer Rim, but the Galaxy Map has it in the Inner Rim. - Sikon 10:24, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
When in doubt, go with the official Galaxy Map(s). The KotOR II spacemaps are very approximate and ballpark. The Bandsaw Vigilante
- It's actually stated in dialogue, numerous times by people who would know, as being in the Outer Rim. It also doesn't make sense to have the first battle of the Mandalorian Wars be in the Inner Rim. Kuralyov 19:58, 10 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- The Mandalore wars began because they Mandalorians attacked the Inner Rim. Before that, the Republic was content to let the Outer Rim burn so long as they themselves remained safe. --Fade 16:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- On the in-game galaxy map on the Ebon Hawk, Onderon is clearly in the Inner Rim. I don't remember any dialogue stating that it's in the Outer Rim, but Atton does mention that it's odd that someone "out here" knows about the Exile and his crew. He uses "out here" to emphasize the "ruralness" of Onderon (rural meaning far from the Core).Ewok Jedi 19:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Government
After playing KOTOR II mulitple times, I feel it is about time it was added in about the government of Onderon. Obviously, it is a monarchy. However, it seems as if it is a constitutional monarchy like that of the UK. In the game (go up to one of the HoloNet news things, the first one in the City of Iziz in particular) and there is mention of a Chamber/House of Lords.... so there's an upper house at least. No mention of a lower house (e.g. Commons) but certainly the upper. This could be some evidence of legislature at least, as Tallia had to see them other issues. Perhaps Onderon has a constituional monarchy? —Unsigned comment by 212.219.113.195 (talk • contribs).
- Upper house, lower house... I wouldn't be so fast in applying our common terms (common in some countries) to Star Wars. It's a monarchy, there is a Council of Lords, that's all we know. In any case it can't be an absolute monarchy, as the planet is part of the Galactic Republic. - Sikon [Talk] 12:20, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dark Side Ending
Who else thinks adding the non-canonical Dark Side ending to a Behind the scenes section would be a good idea? - TopAce 22:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Objection!
There is no proof that the Jedi Exile used Battle Meditation to help Talia win. Having just played that part, it is possible to just jump directly in the fight with sabers swinging. If one does not have Battle Meditation, this option does not appear! Atarumaster88 14:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. Even though Battle Meditation is a force power available, no other source says that the Jedi Exile has the ability to use it. Because that would mean we have to assume that any other force user of the exile's party also has battle meditation, which is supposed to be very rare. I vote remove it 124.181.245.218 12:11, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Redirect
There's a slight problem, everybody. Onderon Separatist keeps on redirecting to this page. I thought I'd let you know. Jedi Wolf 1:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Terentatek?
What source places Terentatek on Onderon?--Logan Felipe 17:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Shadows and Light. -- I need a name (Complain here) 18:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Humans or humanoids?
It seems to me that either the article shouldn't refer to the Onderonians as natives (since, if they were humans, they would have to have originally come to Onderon from the original human homeworld), or it shouldn't refer to them as humans, since any similarity to humans would have to be coincidental (or due to antropomorphization by the artist, like in the short story Nightfall). 68.44.13.236 06:28, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Onderon and Dxun, too close for comfort...
Dxun coming so close to the planet that it shared atmosphere? That is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. I know EU writers are all retards, but come on. The complications with real science are astounding. --—Unsigned comment by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]).
- I agree, but in full fan-rationalization mode, maybe it was just a myth invented by the natives to explain how the monsters got there? Of course, Arca Jeth believed it even though he regularly travels through space, but at least that's not physically impossible. Maybe he deliberately trained himself to be credulous. --68.44.13.236 05:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unaffected in Jedi Civil War
Why was it so untouched by the Civil War? Why was it passed up by Revan? The line from Mical (Disciple) says that it seemed as if Revan did not want to invade Onderon. Mical himself goes on to say that it would seem to be a vital target in connecting the outer rim to the core. I couldn't come up with a specific explanation of why Revan didn't touch Onderon. I know a lot of Mical's discussion is meant to lead to the conclusion that Revan intended to conquer the Republic, but leave it in tact (as opposed to Malak's approach of letting it all burn). But, supposing that was Revan's goal, why would he then not take Onderon all the same? Could it be that he anticipated a war with Onderon as requiring enough force and struggle that it would inevitably damage the planet beyond repair? Was it the risk to the ecosystem? The only other explanations I could come up with (Mandalorians, Nadd's tomb, etc) all seem too insignificant to me to be Revan's reason.
This certainly isn't critical information to the Onderon article, but is there something special about the planet, that saved it from Revan in a way, that is currently unclear? Or that is not represented in the article? If there's any solid information on this subject, I think it could be a valuable addition. Vangardt 12:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
