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Former Supreme Overlord?Edit

I know he was using Shimrra, but what source states he was a former Supreme Overlord before he became Shamed? All I could find was that he was a former Master Shaper. StarNeptune 04:57, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• He wasn't. Thanos6 18:06, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
• He actually wasn't a Master Shaper either. In The Unifying Force while he was screaming at Jaina Solo, he says that Yun-Harla denied him the rank of Master Shaper. And in Edge of Victory II: Rebirth, when Nen Yim saw Onimi remove his false Shaper Hands, it was revealed that he had ordinary Yuuzhan Vong digits. I don't think Onimi was even a Shaper Adept. I think he was just a plain Shaper Initiate. -- SFH 18:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Well shouldnt he be classified as "Supreme overlord Onimi"? —Unsigned comment by 71.111.131.229 (talk • contribs).
    • We don't include titles in the names of articles of characters. -- SFH 20:07, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Besides, he wasn't officially the Supreme Overlord. No one, not even Shimrra, knew of his true position - Kwenn 20:40, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Yeah, but to be fair, I don't think Shimrra was entirely there to begin with either. -- SFH 23:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
  • If he was just a Shaper Initiate, why was he so good at shaping? (helping make the 8th cortex...) —Unsigned comment by 68.227.84.134 (talk • contribs).
    • Just because Onimi was most likely a Shaper Initiate when he was Shamed doesn't mean that he had stopped learning the science of Shaping. He could have continued learning about Shaping as a disguise, whether it be Kae Kwaad or any other kind of disguise. —Unsigned comment by EUMAN10 (talk • contribs).

AppearancesEdit

I'm pretty sure he appeared in at least some of the Force Heretic books. Someone who knows how many should add them. Lieutenant Gerard 22:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

• Onimi did appear in a flashback scene in Force Heretic II: Refugee. —Unsigned comment by EUMAN10 (talk • contribs).

Time LineEdit

Was Onimi really controlling Shimrra since 29 BBY? I got the impression that Shimrra wasn't being controlled when he overthrew Quoreal. --Etapelba 06:30, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

• Can someone give a source that states this, because I was under that impression as well?--Darth Oblivion^Comlink 21:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't remember it ever mentioning anything about at which point Shimrra became a puppet of Onimi. It wouldn't seem logical for onimi to have had control that long. Especially considering how his control over the Dread Lord was marginal at best, by the end of the series of NJO novels, Shimrra seemed to have been making his own decisions through his own madness without Onimi's control. —Unsigned comment by 24.147.205.107 (talk • contribs).
    • Onimi did reveal to Jaina that he had, in fact, been controlling Shimrra since the latter decided to overthrow Quoreal from the polyp throne. Onimi wouldn't also have had to control Shimrra all the time, only the decisions that Onimi thought were best for the Yuuzhan Vong and himself. And lastly, Onimi's control over Shimrra was total, as he had also explained to Jaina that when he lost his control over Shimrra via Zonama Sekot's arrival in the Coruscant system, Shimrra was acting on what little unstable mentality he had left in him.
• At the bottom of the article it says that Onimi was the de facto Overlord since 29 BBY. It may confuse some people.--Etapelba 06:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Well, technically, it is true, because when Shimrra died, Onimi was still really the true leader of the Yuuzhan Vong, even though he did not give any orders to anyone of high command such as Warmaster Nas Choka, and the only people who did know of Onimi's authority were Jaina and Jacen Solo. Also, Onimi happened to be piloting the craft from Yuuzhan'tar that made Warmaster Choka and other Vong commanders believe that Shimrra was still alive, so he still was the leader of the Yuuzhan Vong even in that sense.
• Interestingly enough, Onimi said he lost control of Shimrra because he had apparently been "preoccupied" with defeating, as he said to Jaina in The Unifying Force: "Only through the powers you had conferred unto me was I able to reach out and make Shimrra my puppet. As my telepathic abilities increased, Shimrra had disappeared (mentally)— except of late, when my preoccupation with defeating you had allowed what remained of Shimrra to emerge." By that last part, I assume that Onimi meant he was preoccupied with defeating the gods, maybe even Yun-Harla in particular, which was what allowed Onimi to lose control of Shimrra. However, there is never really an instance in the novel when it would ever be indicated that Onimi was ever preoccupied with anything else that would ever lead to Shimrra getting out of his control.EUMAN10 22:26, January 26, 2012 (UTC)EUMAN10

Control of ShimmraEdit

How did Onimi control Shimmra using the Force if Shimmra and all the other Yuuzhan Vong had no force connection? Cato152.23.88.94 13:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

• There were apperantly a few rare Vong who were able to channel the force, like Onimi. Destroyer Droid 21:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I understand that Onimi could use the Force, but how could he use it to affect Shimmra when the Yuuzhan Vong are outside the Force? —Unsigned comment by 152.23.202.133 (talk • contribs).
    • He didn't used the Force, he used the chemicals his body made to control him.--Jedabak 22:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Actually, Onimi did use the Force to control Shimrra. The chemicals inside his body were meant to be poisonous with no mind-manipulative effects on the victim. And Onimi is able to use the Force to control Shimrra, even though everyone but Onimi and Vongerella are absent in the Force, because he is Yuuzhan Vong, and because he's a Vong, Onimi is able to act as a bridge between his species and the Force, thus having an effect on his own people, like Shimrra. This bridging between the Yuuzhan Vong and the Force prior to the end of the Vong invasion has been demonstrated in the Solo brothers, Jacen and Anakin, when the latter had combined a lambent crystal with his lightsaber, and the former gained the connection via his partnership with the dhuryam that would become the World Brain of Yuuzhan'tar (Coruscant) (even though the connections that the Solos had with the Vong wouldn't necessarily be, at least directly, part of the Force, and would be termed Vongsense). —Unsigned comment by 174.92.140.190 (talk • contribs).

Dark SideEdit

Was Onimi a user of the Dark Side of the Force? If so, why isn't he categorized as such? —Unsigned comment by 68.199.35.11 (talk • contribs).

• Well Onimi was definitely a Force Sensitive, but no official source claims that he is a darksider. Of course, I am 100% sure that he is actually a darksider. I mean Vong=Evil=Dark Side. DUH!

Plus he had been using the Force to destroy people or hurt them during his life.

So this is one of the things that are definitely true, but are not supported by sources, just by srguments. I'd also bet Onimi doesn't know if he is a darksider or not; he doesn't know that he is a Force Wielder, plus immensely powerful as described. He probably thinks it's just his "thing". 89.210.79.242 09:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

How much did he know about Nom Anor?Edit

Did he know Nom Anor was leader of the heretics? Or just that Nom Anor didn't believe in the gods? —Unsigned comment by 64.255.180.112 (talk • contribs).

At the moment where Onimi was defeated by Jacen Solo, he had lost his Shamed deformities. Then he was dissolved by his own unchecked poisons, which he had manufactured inside his own body. Now, from the narrative that had concerned Onimi in his revelation as the true leader of the Yuuzhan Vong, it was stated that he made those poisons much in the same way that Vergere had made her healing tears; they both used the Force. So the question here is, as the narrative of The Unifying Force never made explicitly clear, did Onimi lose the Force when he was defeated by Jacen? —Unsigned comment by 174.92.143.200 (talk • contribs).

• Yes, because it would be the only logical conclusion. EUMAN10

Name change Edit

Someone seems to have gone through and changed his name to "Enimi" in the article. Is this new information or just a joke? Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 19:02, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

As far as I can tell it looks like a vandal/joke, I make this assumption because the article is still under Onimi not Enimi.Darth Needham 19:16, October 8, 2011 (UTC)