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With the cover and summary recently being released on the OS, this is a preemptive reminder that this page is for discussing the article, not either of the above. - Lord Hydronium 02:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Typo?Edit

Should Valin Horn's psychotic break be breakdown? Rain Thalo 00:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I would think so, anyone else? ZEM talk to me! 00:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
    • "Psychotic break" is a real term, and even if it wasn't, we'd type it as written. - Lord Hydronium 00:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
      • Whatever. I guess it just sounds strange to me. Rain Thalo 22:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

You would think it would be breakdown though. Rohanmandokiller

The New Tagline for FOTJ:Outcast!!Edit

The Tagline THE NEXT CHAPTER IN THE EXTRAORDINARY HISTORY OF THE STAR WARS GALAXY BEGINS HERE... was found on the listing for FOTJ:Outcast was found on the Del Rey catalogue site Xicer9. There wasn't any need to delete it.

SpoilersEdit

Is there a policy regarding when spoilers are allowed to be added? --Markrox91 05:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

  • I think there isn't a problem as long as there's a spoiler tag at the top of the article. Steves490 14:50, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

More Council Members? Edit

Is this series going to mention who fills the Jedi Council seats of Mara Jade, Lobi, and Luke (or Kennth's if you being technical)?

One would assume that the new Council members will be at least mentiond, but who knows. Oh and remember to sign your comments. --Markrox91 14:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

i would think that thay would be revealed to but probably in omen.personelly if i was writing the book i would think it should be more focused on luke being expelled from the order. just sayin ;). post something if you agree.= wookieman3

Question Edit

Does anyone have the book, if so, are you allowed to post spoilers, the suspense was to much!

I'm not sure, but I don't think anyone has it yet... It won't be released until March 24, 2009. ZEM talk to me! 19:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I got my copy a week early cause if you preorder it from Chapters they sent it out early. I got it the 16th. Besides, there's nothing majorly revealed beyond what's said in the publishers summary. A whole lot of foreshadowing though.--99.235.198.60 02:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Any awesome lightsaber battles? What kind of foreshadowing? sorry about the questions but. . .
Well, its good for sure, foreshadowing towards the next books, its really mean't to create the base for the next novels which will continue to build up. If you really want to know, the Alliance is putting more pressure on the Jedi, I won't spoiler too much but if you really want to know make an account I can tell you what happens on your talk page. Reveals mysteries about Kessel though and forshadowing about Allana too.Fedarated AK74-u 02:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Foreshadowing about Allana? I hope that its good foreshadowing lol. Is there a preview of Omen in the back of Outcast?--Darth Revanon 11:45, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Yes, there is. Usually I don't read those but I'd advise all who get the book to read it. I can't wait until June!! --Darth Niffoc 20:53, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Errror? Edit

I read in the book that Allana was sensing something coming from the Garrison Moon, and that there were troops there. Wasn't the moon destroyed by the Death Star prototype?

  • It was, but all I see is a reference to her seeing "a sliver of the former garrison moon" in the sky (p. 157). Where is the part you're referring to? - Lord Hydronium 00:13, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes even Han and Leia mention it. Probably just a cotinuity error.

-In the book it said that after Kessel was saved everyone was brought down from the Garrison Moon.


Deja Vu? Edit

Hasn't the whole "the galaxy is distrustful of the Jedi" thing already been done several times in other stories, isn't this essentially just a regurgitation? By the way, what other instances of this situation have there been. I know there sort of was in the KotOR era, at least with a couple outer rim planets. Xanofar 08:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

  • (I'm wondering if pointing this out is worthwhile for the article) Xanofar 08:11, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Of course it has been done before, but a lot of SW, and for that matter just about any form of entertainment, is regurgitation. Hell, the basic premise of any and all era's in SW history are placed in the back drop of some war or another (hence the name Star Wars). The last time they tried to do something different, the Yuuzhan Vong happened, and we all know how well that was generally received. Not to mention that was still, technically, just another war. Darth Endis 00:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, the New Jedi Order series was a financial success. The critics I have heard tend to be authors who argue the series is too grim and brutal for Star Wars (though I admit to respecting the authors with that opinion).

To answer the original question, one direction the book went involves a closer focus on characters other than Han, Luke, and Leia; they do have their own story arcs, however. It has happened before (I, Jedi being a noteworthy example), but it is uncommon enough and may just mark a new direction for the universe of Star Wars. Mad Jax 21:27, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Baron Do Edit

Does anyone know of any other references to the Baron Do Sages or Plo Kloon's connection to them in any form other than in Outcast?--Darth Niffoc 18:51, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

  • See Baran Do, then go to the bottom of the page. Steves490 21:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


paper back Edit

Can you buy this book in paper back yet?

  • I think paperbacks usually come out a year plus after the hardcover release. Steves490 21:07, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Continuity Error Edit

Jaina says Kenobi's lightsaber was "reasonably lost" but her brother took it from Vjun at the Mission to Bast Castle. Continuity error? 68.252.214.187

Although a would-be interesting topic, this question is quite irrelevant since Zilaash Kuh owned a lightsaber fashioned after Obi's--Darth Niffoc 20:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I see a different continuity error. At the end of Millenium Falcon, Han and Leia learn that GA is preparing a case against Luke for deriliction of duty and Han says something about them blaming him for Jacen turning Sith. But at the begining of this novel, they all think the case is about Luke leaving the battle at Hapes and Luke doesn't find out about being charged with letting Jacen turn until AFTER he is arrested. I mean, weren't these novels written one right after the other? They couldn't even keep them together? Many years ago there was continuity problems galore but for a long while they seemed to straighten it out. Now here we are with more and more issues lately (Clone Wars fiasco that led to one of the best authors leaving and others). I guess it is just all about the money again.

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