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Contents 1 Lying about her age? 2 Cracken's Rebel Operatives 3 Planets of the Galaxy 4 freedom fighter

Lying about her age?Edit

Based on the source information in Platt's Starport Guide and Platt's Smugglers Guide, I suspect that Platt may be lying about her age. Here's why:

1. Her captain's license (Starport, p. 12) is dated 33:2:7, and gives her date of birth as 13:7:17. This would suggest that she was born in Second Month, 22 BBY, and became a captain in Seventh Month, 2 BBY, aged 20 (not 21, as the page claims). However, let's take a closer look at what we know about her.
2. Starport, p. 6, says that she ran away to space on her twelfth birthday, as a cabin steward on a Sullustan liner, then served on a freighter in the Anarid Cluster.
3. Smugglers, p. 12, depicts her as having crewed on Captain Kassler's Ravlev for two years, and the Sullustan liner for two years before that; the Ravlev is confirmed as being the ship in the Anarid Cluster on p. 13. At this point, she gets her first ship, the Brentaal Princess (pp. 28-29). And being a captain requires her to have a captain's license.
4. Simple arithmetic: she runs away on her twelfth birthday, and spends two years on the Sullustan liner, then two years on the Ravlev. At this point. She becomes captain of the Brentaal Princess, which must be the date her captain's license is issued. The issue date, 7th of Second, 2 BBY is likely to be accurate, but she was actually around sixteen at the time, so born around 18 BBY.
5. There's one thing which may complicate this: the page says that after her stint as a cabin girl, "Okeefe followed this job up by working as a technician onboard numerous bulk freighters while trying to make her way to Romar", citing a "Smuggler's Log" in Star Wars Adventure Journal 3. This probably adds a period between the liner and the Ravlev, but even if this is accurate, I don't think it stretches the four years out much.
6. The character even seems to tease the reader about it (Starport, p. 7): "Many spacers have asked how old I am... really. Well, I'm not telling. Sure, I look pretty young, and could pass for a girl about 20 standard years old. That sounds pretty good. Let's say I'm in my early twenties." Given the explicitly pre-RotJ dating for Starport, the subtext is probably that she's not yet twenty at the time.

Anyone got any more on this? --McEwok 18:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

• Update: the ever-helpful User:Gonk has kindly told me what SWAJ #3 says: "One of my first spacefaring jobs was as a technician aboard a bulk freighter. I needed to get from Wroona to Romar, so I signed on the first bulk freighter heading in my direction. Sure, I eventually got to Romar -- two months and four bulk freighters later." As we know she joined the Sullustan freighter at Brentaal, and left the Ravlev on Boztrok, this must be in the interim. Just two months! --McEwok 18:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
• Hey McEwok. I've been thinking about adding a footnote on her age to the article along with a few other additions. I think you've pointed out the major problems.
  • The main one for me is that I presume she must have needed her BOSS licence in order to get her ship from the KTG. Therefore, either she is lying about the age she got her licence or there is 5 years unaccounted for between leaving home and joining the KTG (12 + 2 on the Starlite Cloud + 2 on the Ravelev = 16.)
  • I placed the bulk freighter in between these two in an attempt to fill some of this period, but it is still lacking.
  • My take on her teasing about early twenties was actually that she was older than that. I hadn't seen it the way you suggested it before... --Eyrezer 00:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Eyrezer. Thanks for the reply. I've made some edits to the page, which was maybe a bit rash...? But here are my thoughts on your points:

1. I don't think we can get out of the fact that Platt joins the Guild and acquires the Princess at sixteen: it's said more than once that her two major berths before the Guild were the Starlite Cloud and the Ravalev. We know that she joined the Starlite Cloud on her twelfth birthday, and that she spent about two years on each ship. Anything else she did before that date is likely to be signifcantly shorter-term.
2. I do agree that the two months on bulk freighters traveling from Wroona to Romar could fit between the Cloud and the Ravalev. The alternative, as pointed out on the edited page, is that this happened somehow in between her capture on Wroona (end of Platt's Smugglers Guide) and her sale to the Moff of Romar (Big Quince). I also suspect that seperating the Platt's Dream from the Brentaal Princess would make better sense of the description of Last Chance as "the latest in a long line of freighters the young smuggler has owned" (Starport, p. 7). However, I may be making things complciated here—and since this trip is presented as a reminiscence by Platt herself, the accuracy of her account isn't guaranteed.
3. If she's telling the truth on her captain's license, then she's still no older than 26 in the pre-RotJ timeframe in which the "early twenties" comment belongs, which makes it almost meaningless. I think it simply makes better sense if she's younger, especially as it seems pretty clear she's only sixteen when she's working for the Guild.
4. I guess it is possible that the permit in Starport isn't her original one: the character is made to say it's a bad idea to let a crime-syndicate boss forge your BoSS permits (Starport, p. 14, Smugglers, p. 39), and it's possible that her initial permit was issued under a false name like "Oakie Palalta". But this is just as speculative as assuming that she lied about her age—perhaps even more so? The scene where she supplies the Guild with the information for her BoSS paperwork just says "Platt typed a few answers into Gjeel's datapad" (Smugglers, page 28).

Anyway, let me know what you think! --McEwok 14:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

• • Hey McEwok... I think you made impressive and admirable sense of Platt's problematic timeline in your edit. I do however get the sense that it teeters right at the edge of OOU at times, and is at least a little bit fan-speculation-y. Perhaps it would be safer (and clearer, for that matter) if it was put in BTS, maybe even in the form of a sequential list. In that context, perfectly reasonable assumptions are much less likely to garner objections. Gonk ^(Gonk!) 15:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Gonk: thanks for the quotes and references, and thanks for making sure I do the right think with the information!! I suspect I have a different POV of "in-universe" from a lot of other Wookieepedians: noting inconsistencies and uncertainties seems entirely logical, encyclopaedic, and accurate to me, especially when they're in stuff told from an "in-universe" POV. You don't have to agree, though, and I agree that the page can probably be improved to avoid OOU'isms and overinterpretation. There are three options, I think.

1. Edit the text to cut down on anything that might be too speculative. The second paragraph of "Klatooinian Trade Guild" and most of "Repaying the Debt" might bear looking at, and any suggestions are gratefully recieved. Simplify, simplify, simplify!
2. Discursive footnotes: I'd prefer this approach to expanding "Behind the scenes", personally, and there are several notes already, mostly from Eyrezer's edit (I removed one of his, and added one of my own).
3. Behind the scenes. Straightforward enough, and that has its merits but I think it risks giving a misleading certainty to places in the main narrative where things are unclear.

A combination of 1 and 2, peraps? Also, can someone check Sandbound on Tatooine: when she names new ship Pok's Demise, is there any information given about what happened between Smuggler's Guide and Big Quince? Thanks! --McEwok 16:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Cracken's Rebel Operatives Edit

Could someone please tell me where Platt Okeeve is mentioned in Cracken's Rebel Operatives? I didn't find it. -- Sol ^(discuss) 18:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

• It can be found on page 62, under Tru'eb Cholakk's entry. --Eyrezer 19:47, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks. :) -- Sol ^(discuss) 20:23, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Planets of the Galaxy Edit

I think the information about visiting Essowyn must be in Planets of the Galaxy, Volume One, not in Volume Three. I have Planets Collection and there I find it in Volume One, there is nothing about Platt in Volume Three, could it be that someone were mistaken about the source? -- Sol ^(discuss) 21:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

• You are right, Sol. I also used the PC, and I must have been confused because they are out of order in that book. I like the way you are handling Okeefe on the German wiki - the sections on Gelgelar etc. --Eyrezer 09:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Your article here really inspired me to write about her - great work! Okeefe is a very interesting character in my view. Unfortunately it's very hard to get all these Adventure Journals and Star Wars Galaxy issues here in germany. -- Sol ^(discuss) 15:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
    • FYI, if you need anything looked up from one of the AJs, I've got all of them, so drop me a line and I'd be happy to help. You're on your own for the Star Wars Galaxy issues, though... Doluk^{Furthermore I believe that lists must be destroyed.} 16:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

freedom fighterEdit

uh, not to contradict the opinions of the featured article reviewers but "freedom fighter" in the lead? i believe there is an expression "one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist"? ASDF1239^-DISCUSSION- 08:56, May 23, 2010 (UTC)