Talk:Qui-Gon Jinn

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Contents 1 The visions after his fight with Maul 2 About his legacy 3 Qui-Gon's Poncho? 4 Personality and Traits 5 Knighthood

[edit] The visions after his fight with Maul

"The end result was Qui-Gon being hit in the chin with Maul's saberstaff hilt, leaving him momentarily stunned, and the Sith mercilessly impaled him through the stomach. As the Jedi Master crumpled to the floor, Obi-Wan freed himself from his laser prison and engaged Maul. Upon being struck, Qui-Gon saw visions of the future, including Anakin's turn to the dark side as well as the fall of the Jedi Order and the Republic. During Obi-Wan's duel with Maul however, Qui-Gon saw Anakin return to the light side, thanks to the efforts of his son, and destroy the Sith (Darth Sidious and himself), bringing balance to the Force." Where did you get that from? Is that so common knowledge or how comes there's no source for it? Thx for any answer 188.192.250.22 15:38, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] About his legacy

I think it should be mentioned that Qui Gon's death is a large portion or why both Dooku and Anakin joined this sith, also that his death is the main reason the Jedi started to take the threat of the Sith seriously once again, and started the 13-year hunt for Darth Sidious/Palpatine. —Unsigned comment by 76.69.66.40 (talk • contribs).

• • While Qui-Gon's death was certainly a contrbuting factor in the hunt for the Sith, I would hardly have considered it the main reason. The main reason was the discovery of the Sith. The Jedi at the time had pretty much thought that they had wiped out their arch enemies thousands of years ago. When they unexpectedly re-emerged, the Jedi saw it as a potential threat to the Order. SoresuMakashi^{(Everything I tell you is a lie)} 03:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
    • However, Qui-Gon's death is one of the primary reasons that Dooku became disillusioned with the Jedi, and contributed to his final push into the dark side. Although he had touched the dark side early in his youth, Dooku was really able to rationalize the Sith philosophy after the death of his former apprentice. This is mentioned in Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force in a holorecording created by Dooku himself. Shouldn't there be some mention of this in the "Legacy" portion of this article? Qui-Gon Reborn 05:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
      • I also think that if Qui-Gon hadn't died, and by that I mean, he was the one who killed Maul instead of Maul killing him, he could have defeated the Emperor. User: DogoHalibar
        • This is your own personal speculation. SoresuMakashi^{(Everything I tell you is a lie)} 03:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
          • So was Obi-Wan's idea that Vader killed Anakin. User: Dai-Kon Hal
• As I said above, Qui-Gon's death is one of the primary reasons that Dooku became disillusioned with the Jedi, and contributed to his final push into the dark side. Although he had touched the dark side early in his youth, Dooku was really able to rationalize the Sith philosophy after the death of his former apprentice. This is mentioned in Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force in a holorecording created by Dooku himself. Shouldn't there be some mention of this in the "Legacy" portion of this article? If no one objects, can I put this in? Qui-Gon Reborn 06:27, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
  • You don't need to ask permission to edit a page. Toprawa and Ralltiir 08:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
    • I know, but it seemed to be a hot topic, and I didn't want to upset anyone. Thanks for letting me know. Qui-Gon Reborn 04:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Qui-Gon's Poncho?

In the personality and traits section, it says that "he had a subtle attention to detail, seen as here wore a moisture farmer's poncho to blend in with the Mos Espa locals." How would that be having a subtle attention to detail? Even Padme didn't dress like a handmaiden, and any Jedi would wear a disguise. Does anyone but me think that a better explaination is required?--Tahlismyhero 17:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Tahlismyhero

• Well, Padme did dress like a handmaiden, or Qui-Gon would have guessed that she was the queen sooner. And he did have a subtle attention to detail, as seen in his exploitation of Watto's greed, and subtle shifts in the moods of those around him, the ability to hide his emotions from his master when he was a Padawan...

But I see what you're saying, and I think somebody needs to sort of amend that part. If you want to do it, go right ahead. If not, I'll do it when I get a chance. May the Force be with you! Qui-Gon Reborn 05:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

• Alright, good work. I tweaked it a bit, though, but it's fine now. Thanks! Qui-Gon Reborn 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Personality and Traits

Jinn always does things his own way, always sure he is right, always incredulous if we do not see it his way. Some think he is a gray Jedi.

Can anyone come up with a better quote for the personality and traits section? There's absolutely no evidence to support the idea that Qui-Gon was a "Gray Jedi," and I do not know where this unsourced quote even came from. Help! Qui-Gon Reborn Enter the realm of the fifth dimension... 11:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

• The quote's not unsourced. Click on the little link next to it - there's your source. QuentinGeorge 11:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Ah, didn't see it. Teach me to edit at 2 in the morning. :P I guess I'll try and get a better quote, myself. I was thinking of working on the article as a whole, anyway. Qui-Gon Reborn Enter the realm of the fifth dimension... 05:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Knighthood

Judging by various factors, I have come to the conclusion that Jin became a knight around 72-73 BBY. I got this date by taking the fact his age is stated as sixteen when he and dooku confronted Lorian Nod, so this puts this incident at 76 BBY. Then, giving a year for further training, then the "two year long mission," puts his knighthood between 71 BBY and 73 BBY (assuming he became a knight immediately after the two year mission). Any thoughts? I cant believe i just sat here and worked all that out, spose thats what comes out of boredom :P The General 21:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)