Talk:R4-series agromech droid
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- The The Essential Guide to Droids refers to this series as "agromech" numerous times because this series was not designed to perform as an astromech in its primary role.--Eion 02:15, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Still, it was an astromech droid. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:34, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- With heavy modifications, yes. But it was not its primary, not its designated function. It'd be like turning a VW beetle into a dune buggy. You would not call a stock VW Beatle a "dune buggy" even though it can modified into one. I've added additional sources that use the term "agromech" in reference to the R4 specifically.--Eion 02:35, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I changed the picture caption to say "astromech/agromech". Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:09, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Also should be 'an' R4. Ugluk
- Since when? I was always taught to use "an" before vowels and special occasions, and "r" was never a special occasion. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
23:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- You're supposed to use "an" before vowel *sounds*. Thus, though "R" is a consonant, it's pronounced "Arr," and so should be preceded by "an." jSarek 02:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Then the rules of English are different from what my teacher taught me. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
12:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Teachers can be bad about that. You'd be surprised how many teach the wrong rules about possessive "s" following words ending in "s." jSarek 03:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, my teacher taught me the right way with the possesive "s" after another "s". But oh well. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
14:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, she got that one right. A lot of teachers teach that you should just use an apostrophe after a word ending in "s," even if the word is singular. jSarek 02:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I learned the right way with that. Anyway, this is really getting off topic. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
12:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I learned the right way with that. Anyway, this is really getting off topic. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
- Actually, she got that one right. A lot of teachers teach that you should just use an apostrophe after a word ending in "s," even if the word is singular. jSarek 02:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, my teacher taught me the right way with the possesive "s" after another "s". But oh well. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
- Teachers can be bad about that. You'd be surprised how many teach the wrong rules about possessive "s" following words ending in "s." jSarek 03:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Then the rules of English are different from what my teacher taught me. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- You're supposed to use "an" before vowel *sounds*. Thus, though "R" is a consonant, it's pronounced "Arr," and so should be preceded by "an." jSarek 02:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Since when? I was always taught to use "an" before vowels and special occasions, and "r" was never a special occasion. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- Also should be 'an' R4. Ugluk
- I changed the picture caption to say "astromech/agromech". Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:09, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- With heavy modifications, yes. But it was not its primary, not its designated function. It'd be like turning a VW beetle into a dune buggy. You would not call a stock VW Beatle a "dune buggy" even though it can modified into one. I've added additional sources that use the term "agromech" in reference to the R4 specifically.--Eion 02:35, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Still, it was an astromech droid. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:34, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
This seems somewhat word-for-word with the Essential Guide to Droids. Perhaps it needs rewording. Cortle Steeze 20:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Really? I don't think so. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
00:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- Here's an idea - since the rest of the article calls it an Astromech Droid, why not move the page to R4 Astromech and include Agromech in parentheses. "The R4-Series Astromech Droid (a.k.a. Agromech Droid)..." --Logan Felipe 15:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Own section for Jedis' R4 units?
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- I came up with an idea. If the R4 units the Jedi Order used are so different compared to the "original" R4, should they be given a section of their own in the article instead of only a couple of sentences? It would clarify the subject, at least in my opinion. And another question: did the Jedi customize original R4s or could they be using some kind of submodel with dome head and more navigating abilities? Logisland 21:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- 1) Not a bad idea, but I'm worried about someone ending up making a section in other droid articles for the slightest of differences. That wouldn't be good. 2) I don't believe anything like that has ever been said. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
00:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Oh well, okay then. I just thought that the major differences between the Jedi R4 and the original R4 would have deserved a section of their own. But the current situation is fine, too. Logisland 09:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do it, I'm just saying that we shouldn't do it for other articles. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
14:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do it, I'm just saying that we shouldn't do it for other articles. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- Oh well, okay then. I just thought that the major differences between the Jedi R4 and the original R4 would have deserved a section of their own. But the current situation is fine, too. Logisland 09:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- 1) Not a bad idea, but I'm worried about someone ending up making a section in other droid articles for the slightest of differences. That wouldn't be good. 2) I don't believe anything like that has ever been said. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- I remember reading that R4-P17 did have the lampshade head but was crushed and Anakin rebuilt him/her/it with an R2 series dome and now all R4 units are modified the same way
- R4-P17 has feminine programming, making it a she. Alpha X 14:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- Don't restart old topics. We knew that about R4-P17 already. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
18:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- Don't restart old topics. We knew that about R4-P17 already. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- R4-P17 has feminine programming, making it a she. Alpha X 14:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC)