I found a brief, one-sentence article about a Class II Frigate at the CUSWE. According to that site, the source for the Class II Frigate is from the Darklighter issues of the comic Star Wars: Empire - the same comics in which the Rand Ecliptic appeared. Can anyone with the comics confirm whether "Class II Frigate" was used to describe the Rand Ecliptic, or if it referred to a completely different type of ship? JimRaynor55 01:14, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• As Darklighter approaches the ship he refers to it as a "gleaming new Battle Criser." Before that, while his group is being assigned to the Rand Ecliptic, the commander handing out duty assignments for the graduating class of the Imperial Academy does indeed call it a "Class II Frigate." I don't know how one would designate the ship in the article though - "Acclamator II-class Assault Ship?" How did we designate "Imperial II-class Star Destroyers?" -- Falmarin 02:29, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• That may not be the class of ship, but rather a force-classification, denoting it's relative firepower/usefulness/whathaveyou to relation to the rest of the Imperial fleet. --SparqMan 03:19, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Interesting idea, although considering the Rand Ecliptic is a variant of the Acclamator design "Class II" does make sense (in relation to the class II Imperial and Victory classes of Star Destroyers). On that same note, should seperate pages be made for these variantions (specifically the ISD II and VSD II - if not the Acclamator class II)? -- Falmarin 04:39, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I believe the consensus was that they should have their own articles to highlight the technical and operational variations, but that the majority of the text should reside in the primary article (ISD I, for example). --SparqMan 04:57, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • The Class-II frigate does not resemble the Acclamator Mk. II, since the Acclamator Mk. II is almost indistinguitable from the Mk. I variant. (Judging from it´s image in the ROTS Card Game. The Class-II has "fins" protruding from the command tower, as well as two enormous hangar-openings on each side of the ship. There´s a ship of a similar class seen in the SW: Empire issue #11, though this has an additional pair of thrusters at the base of the tower: [1] [2] [3] VT-16 19:04, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • • For once, I actually agree 100% with VT-16!! While the ship seen in Darklighter has a broadly "prequelish" look, I can see no specific similarities with the Acclamator. Unless anyone has any OOU author-and-artist quotes to justify "The last incarnation, described in this article, is an effort to link the ship back to the prequel trilogy of films, by making it an off-shoot of the Acclamator-class", I'm going to downplay the attempts to link the two types to the level of noting broad similarity. Out of interest, more material on the previous versions would be good. All I know of is that she's called a "frigate" in the shooting script, and there's a shot of her stern in X-Wing #25.... --McEwok 02:19, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)

it looks exactly like an acclamator. Look towards the rear end of the ship. Ralok 01:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

• Not exactly. There are many noticable differences. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

it looks modified yes but the command tower and engines appear acclamato Ralok 15:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

• It's not modified—it's a separate class altogether. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The arrow-shaped command tower is actually a common module for Rothana's smaller ship-designs (similar to the T-shaped tower modules for Kuat warships). Also in the Darklighter-comic, you can see the ventral part of Rand Ecliptic and it has a sleeker profile than the Acclamators, as well as straight lines running on each side of the hull instead of straight lines ending in two horizontal lines further back on the hull, like the profile for the Acclamators. VT-16 22:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Exactly. Plus, there's the hangars. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 00:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

it is a halfway ship in a way beetween acclamators and victory class. Ralok 00:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• Yet it's an entirely separate class. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 00:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

did i mispeak i meant to say it appears to be a halfway ship. Perhaps it was a a fucntional prototype put into action for local security Ralok 01:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• It's not a prototype, it's part of a class, Class-II frigates, in fact. And the ship was brand new in the months before Battle of Yavin, when Biggs was assigned to it. VT-16 09:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Ralok, it can't be a half-way ship if it was built after the Acclamators and Victorys. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

bjust because it was new does not mean the design were new Ralok 20:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• Wrong. That design was original. It's not a cross between the Acclamators and Victorys if it's a separate class built after both classes were constructed. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 21:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, it is possible the design was old but the production was still holding up. VT-16 21:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
    • That's true... Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 22:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)