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Ric Olié is a former featured article. Please see this article's entry on the Inquisitorius page for the reasons why it was removed.

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This article was showcased on Wookieepedia's Main Page from 22 December to 28 December 2008.

Article milestones
Date Process Result
3 November 2006 Good article nomination Success
5 November 2006 Good article
25 August 2007 Featured article candidate Success
11 September 2007 Featured article
8 August 2010 Featured article review Removed
12 September 2010 Former featured article
Current status: Former featured article


Temp pageEdit

I've started a temp page, using the infobox, sources, and BTS section given already as a start. — Silly Dan 21:58, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Acting?Edit

Someone added the assertion that the role had more lines and scenes originally, but was edited due to "the quality of [ Ralph Brown's] acting." Without a source, this should not be included. —Silly Dan (talk) 00:14, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Clone WarsEdit

He fought in the clone wars. Unsigned comment by 85.176.103.2 (talk • contribs).

At Risk concernsEdit

Very little sourcing. Jediknight19bby (Jedi High Council Chambers) 00:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

  • 4dot has pretty much single-handedly thrust this GA back into the spotlight. --School of Thrawn 101 06:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

CaptionEdit

So, let's start at the beginning. Back in December, I was going to add a picture of Ric to this article. I was on IRC at the time, and I jokingly said something to the effect of "Wouldn't it be funny if I put 'This is a picture of Ric Olié.' as the caption?" Others in the room told me to actually use the caption, and being an impressionable fellow, I caved in, figuring it would be changed soon enough anyway. (link) But it never changed, and now the article is up for Feature Article, and as such is being held to a higher standard. I have now tried to replace my caption, as have others, but certain maverick users have taken it upon themselves to start an edit war, partially to make a point by keeping the article from succeeding as an FA.

Now, surely we can all be mature and civilized and come to some kind of compromise. Can't we? -- Ozzel 02:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

  • How is deleting something that's both humorous and truthful in any way related to this nebulous "higher standard"? Sucking the life out of Wookieepedia is NOT the way to make it a better encyclopedia. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Given that that picture is being used to illustrate the "Captain Obvious" comment in the Behind the scenes section, I think the caption is completely appropriate, and the fact that it's in the Bts section gives us some small amount of wiggle room for a little levity. I think it can stay in without compromising the article's Featured quality. jSarek 03:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
      • It's not that humorous, and I'm not sure when deleting actual information in lieu of jokes became Wookiee policy. And I'm more than a little concerned that we have admins starting edit wars to keep this in. - Lord Hydronium 03:50, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
        • There was a version of the obvious caption that had actual information. Ataru screwed it up. So I put it back to the original. I have no problem with the more informative version. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 03:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
          • So why did you remove it? - Lord Hydronium 03:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
            • Ataru removed it. Ask him. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 04:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
              • But if you were fine with the informative version, I would assume you would revert to that. Not to the version that even you suggest is inferior. - Lord Hydronium 04:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Maybe in order to make the joke clearer, we could say "This is obviously a picture of Ric Olié"? —Silly Dan (talk) 04:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Or we could leave the jokes to Darthipedia. When did the Star Wars Wiki become open mike night at the local comedy club? - Lord Hydronium 04:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
      • I don't think a single subtle joke in a Bts section of one article constitutes becoming "open mike night at the local comedy club." Especially when the joke actually illuminates the text in the manner that this caption does. The joke may not be a laugh riot, but it *is* illustrative. jSarek 04:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
        • That's not the purpose of a caption, though. I'm not trying to suck the fun out of Wookieepedia, but can we at least keep the intentional comedy off the articles? Thefourdotelipsis 10:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
          • No. I'm going to do whatever needs to be done to save Wookieepedia from a fate worse than death at the hands of humorless dickheads who want to lobotomize it and turn it into a hellhole of endless boredom like Wikipedia. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 11:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
            • Don't get me wrong, you can go bonkers and wank to your heart's content on pages outside the article namespace, thereby "Saving Wookieepedia from a fate worse than death". Hell, you can even post your bile all over the talk pages, for all I care. The article, however, isn't the place for fabricated and, quite honestly, flimsy humour. Thefourdotelipsis 12:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
              • No, the article namespace is the perfect place for a few subtle jokes at the franchise's expense. If we can't laugh at ourselves, then we might as well quit. Trying to purge Wookieepedia of humor is not only harmful to this wiki, but the entirety of SW fandom. As long as I draw breath, I will not allow you to zombify Wookieepedia. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 12:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
                • Hey, I've deliberately written humour into articles. Only I don't piss and moan when it gets removed. Because somewhere down the line, I might slip it into another article. Or the humour might be entirely suitable. This isn't. Thefourdotelipsis 12:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
                  • But that's just the problem. This is utterly appropriate. There is rarely a more appropriate place to slip in a small bit of humor. But some people are STILL trying to remove it. That's why this particular instance makes me fear for the future of Wookieepedia. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 13:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
                    • People aren't going to cack themselves with laughter upon seeing it. They'll think it's an April Fool's Day joke that missed the reversions. There is actually an entirely separate wiki for this kind of stuff. This is like adding fanon into an article and justifying it by claiming that it's really good for the story, and makes the article a better read. Thefourdotelipsis 13:21, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
                      • If you really believe that and you're not just grasping at straws, I feel very sorry for you. Wikipedia has poisoned your soul. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 13:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
                        • Despite not having edited it in earnest since joining Wookieepedia. We're delivering a product. Not a source of private amusement. Thefourdotelipsis 13:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
                          • If we are delivering a "product", that product doesn't need to be unflavored tofu. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 13:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
                            • Whatever. I've been driven to a point of caring so little that I concede defeat. Keep the witty caption. Thefourdotelipsis 13:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • That's not really how I wanted this to end, but whatever. This has never been solely about this one caption, it's about halting a disturbing trend that I honestly fear will hurt us in the long run. I still don't think anybody understands why I feel so strongly about this. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 14:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Perhaps it has something to do with your "all-or-nothing" stances, unilateral actions, and less-than civil comments. I personally see no need for the facetious caption and don't see the "humor" in it at all, which is why I removed it. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 16:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

This is a picture of Ric Olié. Edit

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This is a picture of Ric Olié.

No, Realy? :pUnsigned comment by Lekxter7 (talk • contribs).

The obvious caption Edit

Can we put "this is a picture of Ric Olié" back? I read the discussion above, but that was four years ago. To whoever said that readers wouldn't understand that it's intentionally humurous, I have to say that if you read the bit of text RIGHT NEXT TO THE PICTURE (about Captain Obvious) then look at the caption, it's pretty clear that it's a witty joke. I can't for the life of me see any advantage in replacing "this is a picture of Ric Olié" with "Ric Olié". They are equally informative (ie. both tell you who is in the picture) but the former is funny as well. I think we need to remember that Star Wars is not real, and it's not War and Peace either. It's a fun science fiction franchise with plenty of fannish in-jokes which I feel Wookieepedia is fully justified in acknowledging and perpetuating. Ultimately, Wookieepedia is an extension of Star Wars fandom, it's not an academic discourse.--The Traveller 09:02, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Pictures Edit

Minus the BTS picture and the one him in the cockpit, these images are truly horrendous. I could just as easily find a good picture in the film to replace the main pic with (Because by God, it's terrible), but I was wondering if there are any better promo shots or images in a visual guide that would maybe be better than a film shot? I myself don't have a lot of access atm to those kind of materials, so I'm wondering if anyone else did. It's sort of out of my element, but the images aren't very good for this article. And the image with Anakin and Ric is bad because... Well... Christ, even Jake Lloyd looks pretty scared. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:28, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

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