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Mentions[]

How exactly are indirect and regular mentions of the Rule of Two being handled? Pre Viszla, in "Eminence," says, "I thought there could only be two Sith, a master and an apprentice." The Rule of Two is counted as a regular, direct mention for "Eminence." In The Phantom Menace, Yoda basically says the exact same thing, however it's counted as an indirect mention. Cevan (talk) 19:38, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

  • I'd say it's only direct if it's identified by name. Imperators II(Talk) 19:41, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Logical Consistency[]

This article doesn't seem to be logically consistant - how can Yoda mention the rule of two in The Phantom Menace, if the Jedi believe the Sith to be destroyed, and the rule of Two was created after the Jedi thought to have destroyed the Sith? How could he know about a rule created by someone he believes to not exist??? Demallien 07:57, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

  • Uh, well that hasnt been explained yet... just because they havent explained it, does not mean it is the articles fault... But it is implied the Jedi knew that darth bane survived, and established the Rule of Two, and that after Bane established hte Rule of Two... was when the Jedi believed that the sith were destroyed. Obviously they did notbelieve the Sith were destroyed until after they learned the Rule of Two. ralok (talk) 09:10, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

Rise of Skywalker[]

The reveal from Rise of Skywalker that Sidious embodied all the Sith, and that by killing him, Rey would receive his -- and every other Sith Master's -- essence into herself, seems to suggest that the Rule of Two was more than previously stated. It seems to me that, in fact, ever since Darth Bane, it has been standard procedure for the Sith Master to patiently await the day that their apprentice will authentically defeat them, and then immediately transfer their own Essence, along with all their predecessors', into their apprentice, creating the new Sith Master, containing hundreds -- or, in Sidious' case, thousands -- of years of Sith wisdom, knowledge and skill. --Finnicks (talk) 20:23, December 20, 2019 (UTC)

Does the apprentice have to kill the master to become the new master, or does the master just need to die?[]

The article states that the apprentice must kill the master, but Vectivus died of natural causes, which conflicts with the Wookieepedia article. What does the rule actually require? DarthJarJar27 (talk) 19:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

  • The Rule of Two can't stop people from dying of external causes; it says the apprentice must kill the master to take their place, but of course an apprentice would take the place of the master if the master dies prematurely. Also, Vectivus is a character who only exists in Legends, and this is the Canon article. OOM 224 (he/him) 19:50, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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