Slain by Vader's lightsaber around the same time as Rune Haako?

Gunnay was killed in the Control Room, and Haako in the Conference Room. Rune Haako 23:30, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't Haako killed in the Conference Room in the RotS book (Matthew Stover), but in the film, he is killed in the Control Room? Gunnay too. Mastermundi 14:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

• I think that Haako was killed in the Control Room, along with Gunnay. Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 21:07, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
  • But what about the pic of Haako's body that I posted that's in the conference room?--Rune Haako 21:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, who knows. If Haako was killed in the Control Room, it's probably a technical glitch. Or maybe Vader decided to Force-throw some of the members around. ;) Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 21:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Isn't that body in the conference room Wat Tambor? Mastermundi 09:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, but some others were also killed in there. Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 20:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I know, I just couldn't see the bodies. Mastermundi 12:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

• Oh. Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 21:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Since Rune is (apparently) standing right beside the entranceway of the conferance room during his "No! Nooooo!" spiel, I've come to the conclusion that after Anakin slashes Rute Gunnay, Rune retreats into the adjacent room with Wat Tambor (seen in the background when Anakin turns to show his Sith eyes). He certainly had enough time to do so while Anakin was busy going over and slashing that random Neimoidian controller after Rute. He and Wat are then both killed off-camera by Anakin during the cutaway. As far as I can tell, he and Wat are the only two who are actually killed somewhere besides the control room.

In any event, I've amended Rute's bio to simply say Anakin kills him immediately after chopping Poggle in half. - Kooshmeister

• Thank you. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 22:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
• No problem. - Kooshmeister

Name.Edit

Now that I think about it, are we sure "Rute Gunnay" is this Neimoidian's actual name? Considering the fact that he was named this after he was mistaken for Gunray, is this name canonical? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 00:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

• Well, unlike, say, Qi Zhu, "Rute Gunnay" actually comes from a published Star Wars book, Dressing a Galaxy. And the roots of the name come from a mistake made by James Luceno in Revenge of the Sith: The Visual Dictionary. It's a silly name, but it's definitely not fanon if that's what you're asking. - Kooshmeister
  • And also, leaving aside the fact that out-of-universe it's a ridiculous in-joke/poor attempt to fix Luceno's screwup, looking at it within the context of the actual SW universe, it's certainly within the realm of possibility that Nute would come to have an aide whose name was phonetically similar to his own. - Kooshmeister
    • While this name comes from a canonical source, that doesn't mean this is the canonical name. Could someone provide the exact quote in which this Neimoidian is named? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:11, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
      • I spoke to someone who owns the book and they said there is not precise quote about Rute, but the name simply accompanies a picture of that Neimoidian. What more could you ask for? :) - Kooshmeister
        • Well, considering this Neimoidian was named "Rute Gunnay" only because he was mistaken for Nute Gunray, the name is probably more conjecture than actual canon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 12:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
          • Well for what it's worth, Leland Chee didn't dispute the name on Sompeetalay's Neimoidians & Duros Roster. - Kooshmeister
            • But is it a canon, in-universe name or not? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
            • Achk Med-Beq and Dannl Faytonni are obviously puns on the names of Ahmed Best and Anthony Daniels, and we don't dispute those as being in-universe names. In any event, I guess we can mention the title of the article is conjectural until such time as it appears in another source. - Kooshmeister
              • However, both of those characters have been shown in official sources with those names, and they are in fact canon and in-universe. Rute Gunnay is a different case. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 10:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
                • Dressing A Galaxy isn't an official source? It was written by the movie's costume designers, and has a preface and forward by Lucas and McCallum, and as I said, Chee accepts it. What more do you want? This is just silly, and we wouldn't be having this discussion if Rute's name didn't begin as an in-joke.

And, I might add, Rute's fellow Neimoidian Mik Regrap's name also comes from Dressing A Galaxy and, to my knowledge, nowhere else. I say we either do all or one; either we call all the new character names revealed in that book into question, or none at all, regardless of whether we think they're questionable. I've given this a lot of thought and I'm removing the conjecture heading, but keeping the mention of it possibly being an out-of-universe identifier. - Kooshmeister

• However, as I said before, Rute Gunnay was named that only because he was mistakenly identified as Nute Gunray in the Episode III Visual Dictionary. Mik Regrap might be a different case, as he wasn't mistakenly ID'ed as someone he wasn't. Therefore, the conjecture tag is going back up. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
  • But conjecture on whose part? Ours, or the author's? This is really getting ridiculous. If the book says that's what his name is, then that's what his name is, end of story, regardless of its origins - which by the way we cannot even be sure of, due to the fact it's mentioned in the book without any context whatsoever; we've all just assumed it came about from Luceno's mistake in the VD, because that seemed the most logical conclusion. - Kooshmeister
    • Again, his "name" was created because of a mistake in the Episode III Visual Dictionary. We don't even know if that's his in-universe name. It's certainly an OOU name, which is why it's conjecture. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:21, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
    • No matter why or how this name was created, it does appear in 'Dressing the Galaxy'. Unless LFL declares that this name is not correct, I guess there is no other option to accept it.--Sompeetalay 13:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
      • It's an OOU name used only because of a naming mistake. It's mainly conjecture. And remember—conjecture is a form of canon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
        • Jack, you don't know that it's an OOU name - you're speculating. The name appears in an official source, and therefore should be considered canon, unless LFL specifically states otherwise. To settle this, I've posted the question on the starwars.com boards. Leland should be able to settle this. --Azizlight 11:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
          • I'm speculating, yes, but the fact that this character was named due to a mistaken identity makes me wonder if it's truly an in-universe name. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 12:47, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I asked Leland Chee: Is Dressing a Galaxy considered canon? Specifically the Neimoidian name "Rute Gunnay"? He replied:

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Removing conjecture tag. --Azizlight 23:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

• Okay, now we have a good source. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 23:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Gunnay or Gunray Edit

Could someone find out if, by some chance, the canon name has been changed to Gunray?--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 00:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

• I think it was just an error. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Could be a ret-con though. We need clarification .... 11:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
    • True. It's just that he was originally called "Nute Gunray", and when they went to fix the name, they just could have forgotten to change the last name as well. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• It could go either way, but we still need confirmation from an LFL source. I must say that Gunray works better, assuming that he could be related to Nute. .... 11:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, someone could ask Chee. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I've been meaning to ask Chee a few questions (as you would no doubt understand...I'm talking the Haako discrepancy), but where to I go on TOS? .... 11:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, if he says that Haako wasn't on Geonosis, I'll be the first to remove that stuff, because I don't like it much either. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• Not if I get there first ;). But where do I go!?!.... 11:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Do you have an account at the official site? There is a thread on the Official Site's forums called Holocron continuity questions. That's the place to ask. Try to make a case in a point by point question, since I've seen Chee disregard questions if they're not well presented. I'll try to look up the exact place if you want. Cull Tremayne 17:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
      • Here is the link to that page. Cull Tremayne 17:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
        • I'd like to see what he says. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• Oooh, interesting response by Tasty, as he seems to think that a possible retcon of Rute Gunnay's original name being Gunray. He also goes on to say that he thinks Rute Gunray may have change his name to Gunnay to get out of his relative's shadow. Cull Tremayne 07:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Hmm, interesting indeed. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
    • I like that explanation. Along the lines of what I was thinking.--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 02:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, if that's made official, we'll have to start a Gunray family article. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 19:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
        • Some article. "The only known members of the Gunray family are Nute Gunray and and Rute Gunray. It is unknown how they were related." If it is made official, would we want to move this to Rute Gunray, since it would be his real name, or leave it, since this is the name he went by?--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 21:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
          • If we have Qymaen jai Sheelal at Grievous, Rute Gunray will be at Rute Gunnay. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 22:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

tikkes? Edit

I herd rummer that he a an aide of tikkes are they true?