Talk:Ryloth
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was Lessu the Republic era capital and Kala'uun the Empire era one, or what?JustinGann 07:11, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- No clue, but I know there's at least one Earth country that has two capitals (the name is escaping me right now). Thanos6 07:37, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- South Africa has Pretoria and Cape Town. QuentinGeorge 07:45, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Is Ryloth really in Orus Sector? Orus Sector is in Inner Rim. Telccu 14:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Clone Wars
Whoa, hold on. What is the source that says Ryloth secceded around the time of the Outer Rim Seiges? -- SFH 00:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
About the TV show, what is the source for Taa protesting the seizure and politicians getting it out of harm's way? Lucius malfoy7 20:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Did it Supernova?
That second pic of Ryloth has a huge white spot. Is that a glare from a camera or what? Don't mean to sound rude. --Quidon88 21:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sector?
- What sector is Ryloth in? Need answer soon! N@M3Le$$
{Need Ideas For Image!} Please, can someone talk to me?! 23:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tidal-locking and Planetary Temperatures
I just watched something very interesting which gave me insight into tidal-locked planets. Now, Ryloth's scorching winds would not be just confined to the sun-baked hemisphere, but would travel across the planet. This would carry heat from the Brightlands into the Nightlands, giving the planet a relatively stable temperature.
This phenomenon was found on extra-solar bodies called "Hot-Jupiters," that were found tidal-locked. Scientists assumed at first that the difference in temperature would be drastic; one side being frozen, the other being scorched. They studied an extra-solar tidal-locked planet in infrared and found that the temperature was quite stable. Yes, the side facing the sun was very, very, very hot, but the side facing away from the sun still had heat. This was due to the winds carrying the heat across the planet's surface.
Since Ryloth has high winds, the same would apply to it, though with less intensity as the winds are facing friction from the surface, whereas the winds on the extra-solar Hot-Jupiters were not. However, there would still be considerable carry-over enough to give the Nightlands some heat, possibly enough for it to be habitable.
Just something to ponder. Trak Nar 05:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Clone Wars rewrote Ryloth
Well, shall we just erase this whole article then? In Liberty of Ryloth we see the planet has a day/night cycle. This invalidates everything. From the tidal lock situation, Bright Lands and Shadowlands and the traditions involved with them, heat storms and even the need for underground cities. Way to kill a cool planet, George. But disillusion aside, how to we handle this article now? Gry Sarth 03:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- We could say different parts of the planet are affected differently? Jacen Solo Jedi Master 23:06, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, they turned an interesting planet into just a generic planet. Maybe there is a way that the old Ryloth and the new one can co-exist? For instance, Kashyyyk was shown with coasts in Episode III whereas it was always thought of just having huge trees and nothing else... but just because we never saw it before doesn't mean that the Kashyyyk with huge trees couldnt have a coastline somewhere on the planet with small nearby trees. I guess it's hard to say one is wrong without an official word on it. Freedon 19:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- Even though they didn't show any of the EU properties other than it being a wasteland, I guess that, with a bit of strecthing, it's still possible to fit it. From what I understood, we only see different "times of day" in different locations, so it's plausible that they were moving closer and farther from the "Shadowlands". The capital seems to be closer to the Brightlands, while the first bombed village was at the habitable borders of the Shadowlands, and the resistance camp somewhere in between. Of course, they would have to be doing a hell of a lot of travelling to get to such different "time zones", but if that's what it takes to reconcile the two sources, so be it. Gry Sarth 20:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- For it to make the most sense, the events of the Clone Wars episodes should occur along the planet's terminator between day and night. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- But they showed it turn from day to night and back to day.I think we should Split Articles into say "Ryloth" is George Lucas' version and "Ryloth EU" is the other one.Or maybe the EU ryloth is just a planet in the Ryloth System..Not Ryloth itself.--Fisto-Arsix 03:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC).
- Bad idea, Fisto-Arsix. That would imply that there's two planets (or two versions). And what about the history of Ryloth that affected the TCW version, but wasn't explicitly included? I think we should just say that different parts of the planet are affected differently. Good idea, Jacen Solo Jedi Master...by User:TessyWawa
- Near the bottom of the page. Big retcon.Doctor Kermit(The Doctor is in) 00:24, 27 August 2009 (UTC) http://blogs.starwars.com/danwallace/145
- Bad idea, Fisto-Arsix. That would imply that there's two planets (or two versions). And what about the history of Ryloth that affected the TCW version, but wasn't explicitly included? I think we should just say that different parts of the planet are affected differently. Good idea, Jacen Solo Jedi Master...by User:TessyWawa
- But they showed it turn from day to night and back to day.I think we should Split Articles into say "Ryloth" is George Lucas' version and "Ryloth EU" is the other one.Or maybe the EU ryloth is just a planet in the Ryloth System..Not Ryloth itself.--Fisto-Arsix 03:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC).
- For it to make the most sense, the events of the Clone Wars episodes should occur along the planet's terminator between day and night. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Even though they didn't show any of the EU properties other than it being a wasteland, I guess that, with a bit of strecthing, it's still possible to fit it. From what I understood, we only see different "times of day" in different locations, so it's plausible that they were moving closer and farther from the "Shadowlands". The capital seems to be closer to the Brightlands, while the first bombed village was at the habitable borders of the Shadowlands, and the resistance camp somewhere in between. Of course, they would have to be doing a hell of a lot of travelling to get to such different "time zones", but if that's what it takes to reconcile the two sources, so be it. Gry Sarth 20:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, they turned an interesting planet into just a generic planet. Maybe there is a way that the old Ryloth and the new one can co-exist? For instance, Kashyyyk was shown with coasts in Episode III whereas it was always thought of just having huge trees and nothing else... but just because we never saw it before doesn't mean that the Kashyyyk with huge trees couldnt have a coastline somewhere on the planet with small nearby trees. I guess it's hard to say one is wrong without an official word on it. Freedon 19:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Changes are afoot
An immense chunk of Ryloth history has been retcinned by the Atlas, as per this:http://blogs.starwars.com/danwallace/145. I'm irritated too, but I would've helped to start fixing everything in this article already, if not for one small thing. Are there not some stories that revolve solely on the belief that the planet is tide-locked? What do we do about this one? The Doctor K.(No I'm not really a doctor.) 21:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- This is the current conflict that hasn't been resolved. The three-way conflict indicates three canonical sources conflict with each other, however, they're are more than three though too many to list. The Essential Atlas and TCW are notable of the changes. Geonosis and the Outer Rim explains that Ryloth is a tide-locked planet, with the hash conditions of the planet. JangFett Talk 22:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Precisely. Which leads to the big question: How do we approach this? The Doctor K.(No I'm not really a doctor.) 23:59, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- After reading the blog and various comments in TFN's JC forums, I would say that this dispute won't be solved for a while. Dan didn't seem to like the fact that he was changing established continuity due to TCW's mistake in portraying the planet. Ryloth will make another appearance in season two and hopefully TCW will portray the planet as a tide-locked planet, however, the outlook is slim at best. I don't know how CSWE's entry of Ryloth describes the planet, though we can always look. If the entry says it is a tide-locked planet, then this conflict is rapidly increasing with existing canon sources. CSWE and The Essential Atlas were released in 2008 and 2009, respectively. Having said that; both are newer, recent sources. JangFett Talk 00:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- CSWE mentions it as having an "unusual" rotation cycle. I'm going to replace the day/night thing with that. —Milo Fett[Comlink] 17:17, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
- Well considering a unusual rotation cycle it could be said that one of the poles of the planet is permanantly facing the star, but not completely on a right angle. So to speak a two axis rotation. One axis for the daily cycle and another rotation for the orbit of the star. And since the slight off angle of the poles, compared to the star, the Twilight Band would have a central permanent twilight, with each side shifting with light/dark cycles. Or would at most have a curved form with no "real" twilight band. (Wish I could illustrate this) --------Casual reader of SW 194.177.231.70 17:42, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
- New info! The Galaxy at War sourcebook by Wizards of the Coast, released just about a week ago, goes back to the original Ryloth characterization. In the Gutkurr article is reads: ""Although the gutkurr's thick shell and internal insulation allow it to survive for short periods on the frigid night side of Ryloth, the gutkurr typically makes its home in the twilight area, preferring to stay out of the intense heat of the day side of the planet. Gutkurrs sometimes travel through the night side of the planet, ambushing unwary travellers."Gry Sarth 13:17, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information, Gry. So now another official source conflicts with the Original Ryloth "Tide locking" and the TCW-version. JangFett (Talk) 20:13, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, for me it seems that Galaxy at War agrees perfectly with the original tide locking concept. Gry Sarth 09:02, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information, Gry. So now another official source conflicts with the Original Ryloth "Tide locking" and the TCW-version. JangFett (Talk) 20:13, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
- New info! The Galaxy at War sourcebook by Wizards of the Coast, released just about a week ago, goes back to the original Ryloth characterization. In the Gutkurr article is reads: ""Although the gutkurr's thick shell and internal insulation allow it to survive for short periods on the frigid night side of Ryloth, the gutkurr typically makes its home in the twilight area, preferring to stay out of the intense heat of the day side of the planet. Gutkurrs sometimes travel through the night side of the planet, ambushing unwary travellers."Gry Sarth 13:17, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Well considering a unusual rotation cycle it could be said that one of the poles of the planet is permanantly facing the star, but not completely on a right angle. So to speak a two axis rotation. One axis for the daily cycle and another rotation for the orbit of the star. And since the slight off angle of the poles, compared to the star, the Twilight Band would have a central permanent twilight, with each side shifting with light/dark cycles. Or would at most have a curved form with no "real" twilight band. (Wish I could illustrate this) --------Casual reader of SW 194.177.231.70 17:42, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
- CSWE mentions it as having an "unusual" rotation cycle. I'm going to replace the day/night thing with that. —Milo Fett[Comlink] 17:17, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
- After reading the blog and various comments in TFN's JC forums, I would say that this dispute won't be solved for a while. Dan didn't seem to like the fact that he was changing established continuity due to TCW's mistake in portraying the planet. Ryloth will make another appearance in season two and hopefully TCW will portray the planet as a tide-locked planet, however, the outlook is slim at best. I don't know how CSWE's entry of Ryloth describes the planet, though we can always look. If the entry says it is a tide-locked planet, then this conflict is rapidly increasing with existing canon sources. CSWE and The Essential Atlas were released in 2008 and 2009, respectively. Having said that; both are newer, recent sources. JangFett Talk 00:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Precisely. Which leads to the big question: How do we approach this? The Doctor K.(No I'm not really a doctor.) 23:59, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
[edit] I have watched it thirty two times
the clone wars saga with the planet ryloth, no comments that i remember from anybody dipute the tidal lock. All locations in the show are ever shown in the same lighting, nothing visually about hte episodes contradicts this. the new essential atlas avoids the subject the only evidence is a thirty hour day which probably only means thats how long the people consider the day. Understand the reason some villages were at night in the clone was was because it was probably to dang close to the darkside. I am sick of all these disputes over the rotation of the planet 67.142.166.20 07:39, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
