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Possible palps identity???
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im gonna say, this is the only known sith/jedi knwon to be able to spirit transfer that is not accounted for....we would be wise to label him as such, this guy is pivotal, he could be a number of important people...or no one at all, i know we don't post rumors, but maybe add a section on FANON or sidenotes...IMO
- I don't think it's palps... I think it's more likely to be Cronal AND Atha Prime. makes a lot more sense to me that way.--Icepirate 22:08, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
- The cloning angle makes him becoming Atha Prime plausible, but Cronal? I don't see it. Their personalities and goals are too different. Both are obsessed with power, but for completely different reasons. Set is just a selfish guy who wants power because it lets him live the good life, while Cronal is a fanatic who worships destruction. — Red XIV (talk) 10:47, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
- Here's how it could also be Cronal: a).he has shown interest in genetic manipulation (re: cloning) (ex: gorc and pic). b). he's "used many secret's from belia darzu," who had a citadel that was the site of a battle between some jedi vs bane and zannah; zannah was at one time the master of harth. zannah could have imparted some of her knowledge of belia to harth during his tutelage. c). he's so steeped in the dark side that it's chipping away at his sanity. after 1000 or so years of studying just about every aspect of the dark side he could get his hands on, he probably would turn from an immortality-seeking hedonist into a destruction-worshipping fanatic. i'd be surprised if he weren't trying to figure out how to obliterate the universe from existence. there are plenty of dots that connect the two together and with atha.--Icepirate 06:35, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
- I wouldn't speculate on possibilities of where Set Harth has ended up. The people that you are guessing, while plausible, were not originally intended to be Set. Set is (*was* post DoE) an obscure character. I doubt anyone has had Set Harth secretly in their storyline posing as another person.
- Here's how it could also be Cronal: a).he has shown interest in genetic manipulation (re: cloning) (ex: gorc and pic). b). he's "used many secret's from belia darzu," who had a citadel that was the site of a battle between some jedi vs bane and zannah; zannah was at one time the master of harth. zannah could have imparted some of her knowledge of belia to harth during his tutelage. c). he's so steeped in the dark side that it's chipping away at his sanity. after 1000 or so years of studying just about every aspect of the dark side he could get his hands on, he probably would turn from an immortality-seeking hedonist into a destruction-worshipping fanatic. i'd be surprised if he weren't trying to figure out how to obliterate the universe from existence. there are plenty of dots that connect the two together and with atha.--Icepirate 06:35, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
- The cloning angle makes him becoming Atha Prime plausible, but Cronal? I don't see it. Their personalities and goals are too different. Both are obsessed with power, but for completely different reasons. Set is just a selfish guy who wants power because it lets him live the good life, while Cronal is a fanatic who worships destruction. — Red XIV (talk) 10:47, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Set Harth has been a favorite character of mine for a long time, he'll have his story, when the time is right.
On your points, I don't think that Set would lose his cool to the Dark Side. He wasn't *steeped* in the Dark Side. He wanted nothing to do with either fanatical viewpoint, he just wanted to be self serving. I do agree that in a thousand years of existence, his ideals and goals could change, but I don't think it would be to destroy the galaxy or to claim all the power. --Darth Froos 15:28, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm assuming this comment was part of this conversation. Anyways, I'm not denying that they probably weren't originally intended to be Set just like I doubt certain other characters were originally meant to be the same. He tended to horde dark side artifacts and sought to learn the ways of the dark side. after centuries of doing this, he most likely would get corrupted further by the toys and knowledge he's gained. (btw, most darksiders are self serving). i have more to say on this, but an emergency has just popped up here.--Icepirate 17:42, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Forget Palps, Set harth is obviously meant to be the Mayor of Sernpidal City, ya know, ignoring the fact that the Mayor is an old man, and Set liked his clones young and fresh (but hey, maybe his cloners were wiped out in the Clone Wars). Set would also not sacrifice himself, but ya know... could happen. This should totally be acknowledged in the article! I can hear Lucas Licensing clamoring for this to be added to the Holocron. Not. Jedi Master Randy Starkiller 02:18, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
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So, if his first appearance in DoE, how is he in all the other sources all of a sudden? Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:14, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
- Whatcha mean, Chack? All the other sources have been listed for months, if not years. Also, the other sources only mention Set, he doesn't appear. Dangerdan97 00:35, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
- Never mind, I misread it. XD Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:37, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Set Harth
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I don't think Set was only looking for information on the Dark Side. I don't think he showed a preference to either one of the sides. He definitely didn't feel obligated to the Jedi nor the Sith. He wanted nothing to do with either fanatical side. He went with Zannah because a)Zannah would kill him otherwise, b)he saw potential for growth in the short term. I can see it be possible that the artifacts that he finds could eventually drive him to go crazy, but I think that would cast aside what makes the Set Harth character so cool.
Set Harth never had a long term goal, other than the one he formulated when he heard that Darth Andeddu's holicron was near. Once he obtained it, his goal was to disappear and never be seen again and live forever. From what we know of Set, this is likely what transpired. I think that he has done great things to protect himself over the thousand years of his hiding. I can see him amassing even more wealth, it's known that after a couple hundred years he found a way to clone himself. With transfer essence, he could set himself up with cloning facilities hidden all around the galaxy.
This is my strongest theory as to what happens to Set Harth. As for developing a long term goal, I think that an author would take what the character stived for as a youth, and twist it. Now that he has amassed all of these relics and has learned so much about Jedi and Sith history, I think his new plan would be to destroy it. I think what he has obsessed over for so long is still his focus, but now he has a loathing for it instead.
a) I can see him foreseeing the galactic events of the Empire as the culmination of the Revenge of the Sith that Darth Zannah told him about so long ago. At this point, I can see him for the first time in centuries scared for his security. With the Empire having whipped out so many force sensitives, he is no longer one of many, he would show up on the radar eventually. With the fall of the Empire, he see's hope. He see's that Luke Skywalker, while a Jedi, is not indoctrinated as the Jedi were of generations past. He see's Luke as a New Jedi. With this, he'd like to erase all of Sith and Jedi history so that the endless battle might once and for all stop.
b) I also can see this: When Set realizes that Emperor Palpatine is a Sith Lord who has enacted the Revenge of the Sith, it would be very much like Set Harth to lurk behind the Sith to try and find out what "power" they had used to succeed in their goal. If Set ever found out about Darth Plagueis and his power to "create life", and his theory of "if a being was ever conceived with this power, he would be the embodiment of the force", he would be very interested. If he could find this power, he would use it to create a being that he can transfer his essence into.
I'm not saying that any of this could/would happen. But I am writing a bit of a story on it...
Too into Star Wars, --Darth Froos 19:55, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
- based on your ideas that 1). he doesn't feel obligated to the jedi or sith and 2). his desire to destroy both the jedi and the sith, that sounds like a Sorcerer of Rhand.... which Cronal was. Cronal could also be lurking behind the emporer "to try and find out what "power" (he) had used to succeed in (his) goal." and if Set ever found out about Darth Plagieus's power to "create life", he could also use it to destroy. ...Just a thought. --Icepirate 20:35, May 6, 2010 (UTC)