What is this about Kavar using a shoto? He used a pair of blue standard ones.DarthMRN 02:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually he didnt one of his sabers had a short blade.-Darth Morder 23 december

No he used short lightsabers. Short lightsabers are lightsabers with short hilts not blades. This article should be revised since short lightsabers are not the same as shoto or lightdaggers. As said, short lightsabers are lightsabers with short hilts that allow better 2-weapon fighting while shoto and lightdaggers are lightsabers with short blades. 04:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, actually, I don't have any sources to move what I said above, but it's just an idea that my friends gave me. Since shotos are lightsabers with very, very short blades... that's why they're known as lightdaggers. However, the short lightsabers from KotOR and KotOR II evidently do not have as short blades as regular shotos and have a shorter hilt than the other regular lightsabers in the game. So it was just a speculation but I think it's more likely than short lightsabers and shotos being the same thing. 04:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Also, if you look at the picture of Kavar, his short lightsaber was cut off from view. If you had an image of Kavar with both his lightsabers showing completely, then you can see that the short lightsaber is basically the same length as the standard one. 04:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Contents 1 Yuthara Ban? 2 Betrayal? 3 Maris Brood 4 How long is a shoto hilt?

Yuthara Ban? Edit

is there any information on this character?

• Yes, under Yuthura Ban. On a related note. Where is the info that she fought with a red shoto from? Can someone please confirm this? It was added by an anon, so I'm suspicious. That info is also nowhere to be found on her page, so forgive me for being doubtful. Cull Tremayne 22:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It is true if you fight yuthara instead of uthar she uses a short red lightsaber.-Darth Morder

Betrayal? Edit

I just read Betrayal and I don't remember any appearance by a shoto. NaruHina ^Talk 00:25, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Maris Brood Edit

I don't think that she belongs on this page- She uses Guard Shoto, not true shoto, and Guard shoto have their own page. Can we consider removing this image, or moving it to the Guard shoto page? Nikose 16:50, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 16:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

How long is a shoto hilt? Edit

I can't seem to find it in the article, does anyone know? Is it as long as a standard lightsaber hilt? Thanks to anyone who answers.David Eltz 23:15, May 19, 2010 (UTC)Davemon115

Hmmm... I believe it varies, although every picture I've seen gives every indication that they are the same length.Senatorial Aide Van Ishkoh 18:08, July 1, 2010 (UTC)