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Title Edit

The Encyclopedia pages for "Sith," "Jedi Order," "Moraband," "Lightsaber" and "Darth Sidious" still use the phrase "Sith Order." Shouldn't it be moved accordingly? --Lelal Mekha Old Republic military symbol (Audience Room) 15:45, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

  • We didn't move the legends sith article, why this one? However, it does say "Sith Order" in it's infobox and in the article's introduction. CommanderAwesome Talk Contribs 18:23, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
    • I see no reason not to use the phrase "Sith Order" if it's in both the Encyclopedia and Databank. I'll effect the appropriate changes later. ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:18, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure I agree with that, actually. There are only a few instances of Sith Order, especially in the Databank (I recall only one or two instances of it in the Databank). Sith is the most commonly used name. Even the Databank entry for Sith, here, doesn't use the phrase Sith Order. Neither do the films or, so far as I know, The Clone Wars. Let's stick with Sith, but also mention Sith Order as another name. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:34, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
        • Well, that's all I meant actually. I wasn't planning to change the article title or anything, but I was planning to add the reference to it also being called the Sith Order, and maybe a few other additions. ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:36, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
          • Got it. I misunderstood since the OP mentioned moving the page. Thanks for clarifying. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:38, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Chancellor Palpatine Edit

Should we count it as an appearance of the Sith if Palpatine appears, but only as Chancellor? For example, in "The Zillo Beast Strikes Back" there is no mention of the Sith, Dooku does not appear, and Palpatine does not appear as Darth Sidious. However, Palpatine and Sidious are one in the same, so should it still be counted as an appearance of the Sith? Or should we restrict it to when Sidious appears acting as a Sith, not Supreme Chancellor? Cevan (talk) 22:24, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

The Jedi Temple was built over the Sith shrine, not the reverse Edit

In reference to this quote from the article: "At one point, nearly six thousand years before the rise of the Galactic Empire, the Sith built a shrine beneath the Jedi's own temple, which became a place of immense dark side power."

I am nearly certain that the novel Tarkin clearly states that the Jedi Temple was built over the Sith shrine. This article implies that the shrine was built underneath the already-present temple... but if I recall correctly, the Jedi built their temple over the Sith shrine in a sort of effort to stomp out its power. Am I remembering this incorrectly? --532250 (talk) 10:26, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Membership Edit

Why are Asajj Ventress, Savage Opress and Quinlan Vos included in the 'notable members' list? The Rule of Two makes it impossible for them to be members of Darth Bane's Sith Order. At the very least, they could be considered de facto Sith since Ventress and Vos were trained by Darth Tyranus, and Opress was trained by Tyranus and later Darth Maul. Yet both Maul and Tyranus never achieved the rank of Sith Master since they didn't complete their training under Darth Sidious. Therefore their respective "apprentices" cannot be considered actual members of the Sith Order, again because of the Rule of Two. JRT2010 (talk) 00:26, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Canon sources explicitly refer to all three as Sith, so they are. The Rule of Two can be (and has been) broken in both Canon and Legends.--Ser Patrek (talk) 11:17, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
In canon, the Rule of Two has never been broken. Your statement is an assumption and a poor interpretation. In-universe, when an outsider refers to a dark side force user as a Sith, that doesn't signify that one is a Sith. It's simply an outsider's interpretation based on limited facts. And the real facts here are that Asajj was never trained as a Sith Apprentice. She never recieved the necessary knowledge to qualify. And since Rule of Two Sith are annointed titles, and since she was never annointed, nor refered to as a Sith by either Palpatine or Dooku, she doesn't get to be called a Sith Lord. Any argument stating that she is a Sith Lord is naive. While one can make a solid argument in Legends for this, there is zero argument for this in canon. In fact, the Databank is the defacto canon. And the databank states that she was never a Sith. This should be changed.--ChristopherLeeGallant (talk) 17:47, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Quinlan Vos a Sith? Edit

Quinlan Vos turned to the dark side in Dark Disciple, but should he be considered as a Sith? If so, I think "briefly" must be added near it. What do you think? --AnilSerifoglu (talk)

First Order?Edit

What of Kylo Ren and that giant freak, his master? Are they Sith? If First Order are the only canon organization to inherit the Empire's...power? (I'm not sure what exactly)...doesn't that make 'em Sith?--It's 658, mate! (talk) 15:01, January 26, 2016 (UTC)

Not all dark side users are Sith, and Kylo is master of the Knights of Ren. But you raise a valid point about how we can make this point clearer bc not mentioning them in an article about this specific dark side organisation is not getting the point that dark side users=/=Sith. I'll go and add a bit about the Inquisitorius. --Alientraveller (talk) 15:07, January 26, 2016 (UTC)
  • As for Kylo, no. He started his own group of Dark Jedi. As for Snoke (Kylo's master), we don't know for sure. But being affiliated with the Empire does not make you a Sith, the Sith are a culture, and a set of specific teachings and beleifs. Though there is a popular theory that Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis, but that has not been confirmed to be true, and even then, he may not be a Sith anymore. I hope this helps. --Commander Awesome (AKA TheCrazyWeirdo) (Talk - Contribs) 17:34, January 26, 2016 (UTC)
  • Exactly. The Sith were an ancient organization, even before Darth Bane. They even had empires that fought the Jedi in the days of the Old Republic, meaning that Sith led countless other factions throughout history besides the Galactic Empire. Darth Ravigious (talk) 22:52, January 26, 2016 (UTC)

Sith Order vs. Jedi Order Edit

Why are there two pages for the light side of the Force-affiliated group but there is only one page, this one, for their opposite enemy? I understand that in Canon, we know very little about the Sith Order, but even so, shouldn't the organization (Sith Order) and its followers (Sith) have two separate pages also? Alternatively, shouldn't the Jedi and Jedi Order also be both covered on the same page? I don't recall there being a rule in Canon that says Sith have to be aligned with their side's Order (Savage and Maul for example were not aligned with Sidious and Tyranus) but Jedi don't have to be; I would think being on the light side but not a part of the Order and its teachings disqualifies you from being a Jedi and same with the Sith. Or am I missing something?-- 07:25, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

add a picture of Darth Bane's spirit Edit

I think a picture of Darth Bane's spirit from TCW should be added. 09:46, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Vader death picture Edit

Could someone add this:


Because THAT market the end of the Sith!Unsigned comment by (talk • contribs).

sith code?Edit

the sith code is still canon, is it not included in this page because we have only seen various fragments of it? FrankPalps (talk) 19:06, January 2, 2018 (UTC)