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Snoke? Edit

Just Snoke? Would think that it is SnokeS. --Will.K (talk) 22:03, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

No, it is Snoke.--64.30.121.179 18:10, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed: NOT a Sith Edit

Just simply putting this here before anyone claims he is, J.J. went to empire magazine with this information.-98.143.152.85 00:45, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

  • To clarify, while you're probably right, that's not actually what J.J. Abrams said. As you can see here, he said Kylo Ren is not a Sith. All he said about Snoke was that Kylo works for him and that Snoke is a powerful dark side figure. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 00:51, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Kylo is not a Sith yet. That's why Snoke is training him. His training is not complete. Misry6.

PictureEdit

Could someone please post a picture of Snoke?

--Naf140230 (talk) 06:14, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'm taking exception to the "towering height" blurb. It was quite clear that in the discussions between Snoke and his generals that Snoke was merely a hologram, which can be of any size. His true height was never revealed.

whoever rewrote it wrote " His hologram used on the Starkiller base projected him several times larger (Around 25 Feet) than his natural appearance"

Are we sure his natural appearance is human or yoda size? Maybe he is Zentradi sized, unless I missed something. This phrasing says that he must be ordinary size, not the mystery I assume we agree it is.

Snoke the "wise" is plageus. Just saying. 162.224.17.215 09:13, December 22, 2015 (UTC)


It was said by Andy Serkis, or maybe someone in working on the force awakens that his actual height was around 7 feet. Also, Snoke isn't Plagueis. I have some images and even a video but I don't know how to post them. Here they are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4APSIrxfmo, http://i.f1g.fr/media/figaro/494x453/2015/12/21/XVM4ef16fa6-a8c4-11e5-8b92-2fad3e8eddde-494x453.jpg

He could easily be a being that Plagueis created with The Force and transferred his spirit into. Darth Itachi (talk) 18:17, May 6, 2016 (UTC)

Exception noted...and inaccurate. The hologram was only a _slight_ exaggeration of his true height! He was definitely taller than the average baseline human from Coruscant. Seven--maybe eight--feet tall, at least.24.89.172.42 21:05, December 29, 2017 (UTC)Carycomic

7.1 New message Edit

Apparently rumor has it that Snoke is Cordé{

  • This is not the place to list rumours Overlordjeff (talk) 09:23, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

Snoke's a woman? Agent es January 10, 2016

More likely a Ragithian Human Darksider (which is more armchair hypothesis than rumor)24.89.172.42 21:06, December 29, 2017 (UTC)Carycomic

Past tenseEdit

Aside from the Biography section, why is this in the past tense, and other articles pertaining to The Force Awakens? Snoke is still alive and is still all the things it says he "was". For example, very first sentence of the article, "Snoke was a male individual". was should be is. Unsigned comment by 173.81.89.88 (talk • contribs).

  • "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away…" 1358 (Talk) 13:11, December 25, 2015 (UTC)
    • So essentially, Wookieepeida is acting like the Star Wars universe is real. Wow. There's a reason I don't deal with fan wikis much. --173.81.89.88 23:04, December 25, 2015 (UTC)
      • Yes, we write articles as if they were in-universe recordings. I'm sorry if this style is not to your liking. 1358 (Talk) 23:08, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

DN345Real (talk) 15:01, December 26, 2015 (UTC) Is it true that Snoke was active during the Clone Wars? Or this is mistake?

This is really confusing and lead me to believe he died, having seen the movie I was wondering if there was a canon novel or something published that could be the material of the next movie(s) and he had died there. 187.185.78.68 01:52, December 27, 2015 (UTC)

Snoke not being a Sith is indeed correct Edit

  • Snoke was one of Palpatine's Dark Side Adepts seen briefly with Palpatine in the throne room of the Second Death Star. (RotJ Film)

He escaped the destruction of the Death Star at Endor, and even witnessed Luke's T-4a Shuttle leaving the hangar of the dying station.

He secretly became an Imperial Warlord and began his plotting of the downfall of the Rebellion.


- The above information came to me from a privileged friend, and also confirms Snoke not being a Sith, as Palpatine's Dark Side Adepts were not Sith Apprentices, and were instead Force Sensatives merely trained in the Dark Side. --64.233.224.21 15:34, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

You got that from a friend? And what do you mean privileged? How? Works with JJ? agent es

Let me guess--SuperShadow is now JJ's best friend as well as George's? --50.0.128.185 03:02, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

I say he's a Ragithian Human Darksider matukai207.210.137.42 19:12, April 4, 2016 (UTC)User Carycomic

I think Snoke is obviously a Sith. He even said to Hux, "Leave the base at once, and come to me with Kylo Ren. It is time to complete his training." What training do you think this is? My opinion: probably Sith training. Misry6.

  • He wants to balance the light and dark side of the force. I know it's not canon anymore, but in the legends, sith looked down upon anyone with any affilitions to the light side. Agent es (talk) 06:15, January 11, 2017 (UTC)

Just saying, have you noticed some similarities between Snoke and Darth Sion. On my way to school this morning i thought of that. They both are extremely scarred and disfigured. (yes i know Sion is from way before this... its possible. He could use something like the Muur Talisman)

  • I don't know if the skin is enough to go off of. Also, I don't think they're going to bring back the alchemy type stuff from the legends. It's too...not from the movies.

Pages with incorrect protection icons? Edit

Sorry, I'm not quite sure what I did to make that happen? Dax (talk) 17:14, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Page blanked? Edit

When I view the page all the content is missing. All other pages on this wiki (including the talk page) work. But "View Source" tells me that the content is there...

  • Have you tried refreshing the page (F5)? Dax (talk) 11:56, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

picEdit

Is this pic official? [1] --AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 06:27, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

  • I believe that's one of the Snoke concept sculptures, but I'm not sure if it's been officially released. Cwedin(talk) 07:12, January 7, 2016 (UTC)
    • The head is from The Art of The Force Awakens but the rest of it looks fake, like someone took the face and put it onto the Emperor's body. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 12:46, January 7, 2016 (UTC)
      • Yeah, the rest of the image is a promo image of Palpatine from Battlefront. Nivlacanator(talk) 00:10, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Eye color Edit

In The Art of Star Wars: The Force Awakens Neil Scanlan says they intentionally made his eyes pale blue... considering that every scene he appears in is extremely dimly lit and cast in shadow (and only ever as a hologram) I don't think we can accurately say that his eyes are black; unless there's another source for this? Dax (talk) 09:18, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Anyone? Dax (talk) 21:51, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Snoke's Command Base Edit

Snoke's Base of Operation

On StarWars.com, the profile for Supreme Leader Snoke, it gives information on his command base. "...the mysterious Snoke has no permanent base of operations, preferring to contact his underlings from a mobile command post." http://www.starwars.com/databank/supreme-leader-snoke

Anubis3669 (talk) 10:56, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

Force Sensitive Edit

I'm not seeing a citation for the claim that Snoke is Force sensitive. There wasn't any evidence of that in the movie, and I don't know of it showing up in any other material. Does anyone have a reason why it shouldn't be removed? Unsigned comment by 24.138.50.196 (talk • contribs).

He also used Force lightning in Episode VIII.24.89.172.42 20:32, December 18, 2017 (UTC)Carycomic

Knights of Ren affiliation Edit

To prevent an edit war, let's discuss this. I'm in support of adding the Knights of Ren as an affiliation for Snoke in his infobox. Being in charge of a group does technically make you affiliated with it - the definition of affiliation is "attached or connected to a group or organization." Snoke, therefore, does have some sort of affiliation with the Knights of Ren, though it does not mean that he himself is a knight. Reddyredcp (talk) 19:32, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

  • I agree with you, and the tweet from Pablo only said he wasn't a knight, so it wasn't saying he wasn't affiliated--Lewisr (talk) 19:44, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • My inclination would be to not add it. Think of it like the Inquisitors. Darth Vader is in charge of the Inquisitors, but that doesn't mean that Inquisitorius is added to the affiliations on the Anakin Skywalker page. That's because it would imply he was an Inquisitor or actually part of the group, whereas really he just gives them orders. For an even bigger level view of that idea, if "in charge" is enough for an affiliation in the infobox then, technically speaking, every single Imperial government and military agency should be added to the infobox for Darth Sidious. Obviously that would be way too much, but the same principle applies to both contexts here. So I don't think we should add the Knights of Ren to Snoke's infobox. The fact that he's the Supreme Leader of the First Order is enough; every sub-affiliation within the First Order, including the Knights of Ren, is therefore implied. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 19:46, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
      • I thought that the Knights of Ren weren't a part of the First Order? Might be wrong but I thought they existed outside of the First Order--Lewisr (talk) 19:52, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
        • They're like the Sith and the Empire, from my reading of the sources. Technically two different things, but intrinsically tied together. The Knights of Ren serve the First Order, much like the Inquisitors served the Empire. Either way, the tweet from Pablo Hidalgo makes it clear that, even if he gives the Knights of Ren their orders, he is not one of the Knights of Ren. So it would be incorrect, not to mention confusing for readers, to add it to the infobox. If, at some future point, a more direct affiliation is made clear between them, then that's great. We can add it. But with so much ambiguity surrounding an evolving storyline, it would be premature to add the Knights of Ren to the infobox. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 19:55, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
          • Okay yeah I see what you're saying, that makes sense! In that case I'm all for doing what you're suggesting Brandon--Lewisr (talk) 20:01, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Is Snoke human or alien? Edit

I see no citation to back up the claim that Snoke is a "humanoid alien". If the only evidence is his appearance in the film I'd say that was an unsubstantiated guess. He could very well be human. Do we know for sure?

Ranger001 (talk) 17:37, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

  • Yes, it states that he in "not human", and therefore alien, in the TFA novelization ;) Geek'ari Talk 17:42, May 20, 2016 (UTC)
  • Geek'ari, Thanks. That is good info. I can't help being curious about the context, however. I wonder if you have access to that paragraph? Ranger001 (talk) 18:12, May 20, 2016 (UTC)
    • Yes: "Seated on a raised platform that was the focus of the chamber was the blue-tinted holo of Supreme Leader Snoke. Tall and gaunt, he was humanoid but not human."
  • Fascinating. Not what I would have guessed. Good research, Geek'ari. Ranger001 (talk) 18:27, May 20, 2016 (UTC)
  • Snoke is, indeed, a humanoid alien. Misry6.
    • I actually came here to discuss the topic, I find the wording about this ... Vague to say the least. He might not be human, but that doesnt necessarily confirm that he is an alien... he could be some form of Post-human, either through being mutated by the force, or through cybernetics, or any various scifi concepts. I feel like until it is confirmed more explicitly and with greater detail that wouldn't it be more prudent to simply refer to him as "inhuman" or something along those lines rather than explicitly saying he is an alien??? ralok (talk) 12:58, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

Similar to the way the light side jedis revisit the living, perhaps? 98.193.124.175 08:44, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

Rank in the infoboxEdit

Some one should add "Supreme Leader" as a Rank at the Sidebar!Unsigned comment by GrisskochLP (talk • contribs).

I'm afraid there is no rank field in the infobox. -- Dr. Porter Resistance starbird (Talk|Contribs) 21:19, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Andy Serkis "wore artifical facial hair for this film" Edit

"Andy Serkis "wore artifical facial hair for this film"

This makes no sense at all. The character doesn't have any facial hair whatsoever, and it was all motion capture anyway, Serkis' facial hair is irrelevant. If he had it, it wasn't "for the movie" in any way. All photos of him doing motion capture show him clean shaven. Suspect the source article is confused just misheard something, or got confused about something else, possibly Planet of the Apes which would make slightly more sense for "artificial facial hair", but even then it still really makes no sense. The only remotely plausible interpretion of the Hollywood Reporter story I can think of is if he had to shave his usual beard to make the mocap dots more visible, and he put a fake beard on when he was off duty.... but that makes very little sense either. There seem to be no other sources for this, everything else that comes up when googling it is just other sites paraphrasing the one line mention in the Hollywood Reporter article and trying to spin a story out of it. Suggest this be deleted, it's at best irrelevant, and at worst incorrect.

It's neither irrelevant nor incorrect. Snoke had wisps of white facial hair in Episode VIII (where he appeared in non-holographic form).24.89.172.42 20:34, December 18, 2017 (UTC)Carycomic

Height Edit

Andy Serkis was standing on a 25 feet tall platform, but accounting for his height, that's 30 feet 5 inches. So that might need to be updated.Agent Es

Personality and Power Edit

Andy Serkis has repeatedly said Snoke has a "personal agenda" which is different from that of the First Order. Serkis also said that this agenda is fueled by his suffering. He's suffered so much that he wants to make others, all across the galaxy, suffer as he has. In the visual dictionary, it even said that he was once a beautiful creature, made terrible by the damage done to him. He wants revenge for that damage. On top of that, he wants to destroy the resistance for just that reason. He wants to hurt them. I can only guess as to why. The reason he's so much darker than Palpatine, according to Serkis, is that he's in constant pain and wants to fulfill this "ageda" which is about hurting others.

I think this line of story, which wasn't explored in the movie, could maybe make people stop saying that "Snoke is just a plapatine rip-off". It could give him ground as his own character. I don't know if quotes by the creators can be used as sources to present information, but I think this information is perfect for the page. And since I'm just pulling from memory right now, I'm sure I'm missing certain other things that Serkis has said about Snoke. This is a gold mine of information.

Also, in the personality section, it says that he's calm and sohpisticated most of the time, but I'm not really getting that from him. I think he just didn't react to starkiller base's detruction because 1. it had already done what it was built for (destroying the Hosnian system), and 2. it was more of Hux's thing; the First Order isn't really what Snoke's interested in as much as his own agenda.

Another aspect of his personality is the fact that he wants to forge Kylo out of both the dark and the light, unlike the sith.


Now let's talk about his power. He is likely from the Uknown regions, as hinted in the Aftermath books and Thrawn novel. I don't know if this can be used as evidence, but there's little doubt in any fan's mind that the "source of the dark side" that the emperor felt when he wanted to go to the uknown regions was snoke. In the Visual Dictionary, there's even that little tidbit about those long purple freaks who are from the Uknown Regions and came with Snoke, protecting him from the impossible-to-traverse pathways from the galaxy to the Uknown Regions. This could mean he came to the galaxy because he was trapped in the Uknown Regions or something. How powerful does this make him? More powerful than the Emperor? Serkis seems to think so, he said he was more powerful than the emperor "without question". Although, he is very badly hurt, and can't do many things, simply because of his physiology. He needs to wear those shoes all the time, and he needs to be surrounded in confort because of his conditions, and he had to bouce the lightning off the ground when attacking Kylo Ren, either because he wants to make Kylo seem like he's below Snoke, or because it causes him too much pain to lift his arm up all the way. It's an interesting line of story to go down, one that I think deserves to be on this page.

And the art of Episode VIII said that there could be a dark side force ghost who could be controlling the entire dark side, and that sounded a lot like the early concept of Snoke "Uber" as we knew him back then, an embodiment of the dark side itself. This seems like an interesting power that Snoke could possess in the next movie, now that he's dead.

Another aspect of his power is the ring. Now I know for a fact that this can't be used as evidence, but there was that video by Star Wars Theory made about the email he got about what Snoke's ring is ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZejHMdLWaU ). The rest of the information in the video was true. There was a part in the film where Luke Skywalker did something with the force that was never seen before: projection. And there was indeed a dreadnaught being broken by potentially the force, potentially the ship banging into it in hyperspace (the latter of which should be impossible. See: https://www.theringer.com/2017/12/20/16800970/vice-admiral-holdo-maneuver-the-last-jedi). So, the information in the video about Snoke accessing his power through his ring, the one insribed with gylphs of the four philosophers of Dwartii, and the obsidian-kybercrystal attachment might be true. I would like to know more about it, and it seems that it may yet have a part to play in the next movie : https://makingstarwars.net/2017/04/details-snoke-guards-kylo-ren-star-wars-last-jedi/ https://moviepilot.com/p/snoke-kyber-crystal-ring-new-force-weaponry-the-last-jedi/4368495 https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/snokes-ring-looks-might-play-big-part-star-wars-episode-ix/

Mosaic on Ahch To Edit

The Mosaic of the "First Ever Jedi" meditating to attain balance of power between the light and the dark side of the force, looks kind of like snoke in a way, don't you think? Many people have suggested a connection. And that Jedi is holding a black lightsaber with a white outline, and while the black on Snoke's ring is confirmed to be obsidian, not kybercrystal, the idea of Snoke relating to the Darksaber was popular for a while.

https://imgur.com/gallery/N3zdj

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