Talk:Star Trek

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Contents 1 Something something 2 Links 3 200,000 years ago? 4 Why do we have this again? 5 The crew of the Enterprise, friends of the Rebels? 6 SW Tech vs. ST Tech 7 Trek vists Star Wars

Something something

I'm going to create this article so nobody can move anything on top of it again. —Darth Culator (talk) 05:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

• Um, a Star Trek article on Star Wars Wookieepedia? Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 18:03, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, there are certain things that I think were taken from Trek in the Wars canon, either slightly adapted ("photon torpedoes" --> "proton torpedoes") or not at all ("subspace radio"). We'd want a source, rather than just my speculation, before putting those on this page, but if one is to be found, this page would be ideal for discussing them. jSarek 20:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
    • the term "Hyperdrive" was first mentioned in star wars so like JSarek said... also I don't think its a neutral point of view but its the star wars wiki
      • Actually, "hyperdrive" goes back to the very first episode of Star Trek. At the end of "The Cage," Spock says "all decks prepare for hyperdrive" after Captain Pike orders them to leave orbit from Talos IV. It may have been mentioned earlier in some other Sci-Fi series/movie, but that's the earliest one I know of. -- Darth Culator 03:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
        • IIRC, the old Marvel SW comics also used the term "Warp speed" or "Warp drive" interchangably with "Hyperdrive". (Most likely because the effect "warps" time and space around the ship.) VT-16 09:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
          • • I think 'warp speed' and 'hyperspace' were commonly used in MANY science fiction novels of the 50s and 60s prior to both Star Wars and Star Trek.

Links

Should we link to Wikipedia, or to Memory Alpha? I think we have a duty for our two fandoms to support each other's efforts. Thanos6 12:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

MemoryAlpha MoffRebus 22:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

delete delete delete delete delete delete —Unsigned comment by Ralok Agum (talk • contribs).

• Or not. -- Ozzel 00:35, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

ok

200,000 years ago?

Where did this figure come from? Where has it ever been stated how long ago "a long time ago..." is compared to Earth? This means that some canon Star Wars source actually has to mention earth??

• I guess that sentence is unclear. What we mean to say is that humans in the Star Wars universe have had space travel for a long time, while the Earth humans im the Star Trek universe have only had it for a few centuries (i.e. since the 20th century). There are a few canon or semi-canon Earth references in Star Wars, some of which can fix the Star Wars timeline in relation to our own, but that's not really what we're talking about in this article. —Silly Dan _(talk) 22:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Why do we have this again?

Exactly why do we have an entire article about Star Trek? There are other articles in which the information relevant to Star Wars can be placed.--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 04:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Since there is a section about how it connects with Star Wars. - T-3 04:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

As I said, there are other articles in which that info can be paced and, possibly, already is. Why not just create one article about how other Scifi films and shows are connected or similar to Star Wars?--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 04:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree there should only be one article for all the scifi shows that shows simularties to star wars i do not think star trek deserves its own article 69.26.85.168 04:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

• If you really want to delete it, put it on VFD and let the community decide. Atarumaster88 ^{(Audience Chamber)} 04:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• See Star Wars vs. Star Trek. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Sigh. That debate has no value. I feel bad for Saxton. Anyway, I don't see how that justifies having an entire article about Star Trek.--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 06:20, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    • We should just merge this with "References to Star Wars" --Imp 06:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• I'm going to have to defend this one. I originally created it to prevent a vandal redirect, but it's really a bit more important than a few SW references in South Park or The Simpsons. We could even go so far as creating a list of Star Trek references in Star Wars, because ST has had a significant impact on all of popular sci-fi. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk)(TINC) 14:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The crew of the Enterprise, friends of the Rebels?

According to my next book that I will do: “The united galaxy”, the crew of the Enterprise, headed by the commander Spock, is received in a celebration made in Naboo, a month depués of the death of the Emperor… User_talk:Starkiller1996

• Yeah, alright, good work, but that has nothing to do with the betterment of the article. So please, leave idle discussion off talk pages. .... 04:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

SW Tech vs. ST Tech

I'm saying this because I saw a comment among the Userboxes rejection area about which would win, and this is the Star Trek article. Can I put the following section in the actual article? Please, only Admins answer that question.

Consider this when looking at the differences between SW and ST:

In "a long time ago" in the movies we see that IV (and by default everything before them) must have happened before the year 1977 (and as such, long before Star Trek), and considering that Rakata had been exploring like 50,000 years before this and Humans inherited their H-drive tech (with slight modification), the SW tech is considerably more advanced than ST. SW things also tend to be on a grander scale than ST things. E.G. the Imperator SD's carried over 130 weapons emplacements, and were roughly in the middle of the Ships classification. The "Reman War-bird Scimitar" was (debatably) the most powerful ship in ST and it carried forty-some (I don't remember the exact number, but it was in the forties) phaser-cannons and twenty-some (I think 27, but I'm not sure) photon-torpedo tubes, and had its Theleron radiation weapon, which would be repulsed by energy shields. Consiidering that Scimitar was one of the (if not the) most powerful ship[s] in ST and it is seriously outmatched I think we can safely assume that SW could beat out ST.

Also note that Star Trek warp-speed is the number of warp cubed, times the speed of light. Ships generally don't travel beyond warp 10-12, which would be 1,000 and 1,728 times the speed of light, respectively. Star wars ships travel at an unknown speed (at least to me), but considering the 50,000 years since the Rakata they probably had become far more advanced and I estimate their speeds at 3.5-6.5 million times lightspeed. User:Andrew Owen W R

• It's a cool theory, but seems to be original research, which isn't allowed. Adamwankenobi 06:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Should I remove it? User:Andrew Owen W R

• You don't have to remove it from this talk page, you just can't put it into the article proper. Adamwankenobi 07:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
• I'm no Admin, just a devil's advocate: The most dangerous species in SW are the "Yuzam Vong". (How do you spell their name?) ST has a a tossup between the Borg and the Q. Okay, the Q are just troublemakers. But the point is, the Old or New wouldn't attack the Federation or vice versa, and the Empire probably wouldn't win. (Look, the Empire was defeated by the Rebels!) Anyways the Federation has been chalanged by all other major powers in the galaxy and survived (from Star Trek: Insurection.) That had included hostiites from the Klingons and Romulans, repeling to Borg attacks, and the war with the Dominion. Well? - J. Sparrow 22:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Trek vists Star Wars

Okay, I thought of something. If the Star Wars galaxy is indeed Triangulum (judging from ET being 3,000,000 light years away from home) then ST did visit the SW galaxy in Where No One Has Gone Before (TNG)--Darthtyler ^{(talk) (HSM RKY)} 01:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Darthtyler, ST never visited the SW universe in a canon story. (Although I privately think there is a wormhole connecting the 2 universes together. - J. Sparrow 01:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

They could be in the same universe, only separated by light years between. For starters, unfortunately Star Wars exists in our universe (a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away) but Star Trek (despite claiming so) does NOT belong to our universe but an alternative one; this is obvious when it messes up historical events. MoffRebus 08:15, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, MoffRebus, Star Trek does take place in our universe. (I should know, as much as I like Star Wars, I'm a Trekkie.) Anyways, Star Wars is a seperate galaxy. However Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, C3-PO and would have died long before James Kirk, much less Jean-Luc Picard began sailing their respectiveEnterprises. So a crossover should look a lot different than you would think. Trekkie, J. Sparrow

If you watch that much Star Trek, then you know we never launched Nuclear warhead platform in the 1960s, Henry Starling didn't invent the microprocessor, and we haven't had a Eugenics Wars that wiped out 30 million people. Their world is a lot like ours, but it isn't ours. jSarek 23:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

My point exactly; furthermore, Leonardo da Vinci and Jack the Ripper were not the same alien person (as far as we know). Thanks Sarek. MoffRebus 09:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, as a nitpick, they weren't the same in Star Trek, either; one was Redjac, the other was Flint. The point is well taken with the substitution of the list on Flint's page for Jack, however. jSarek 18:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not an overboard Trekkie, I just like watching it. Also, I havem't seen every series. True, the Eugenic Wars never happened, but our universe and history are the basis for Star Trek. So, I'll give you credit that Star Trek is an alternate histroy, but still uses our universe as its setting. If it makes you feel better, Star Trek writers changed history. - J. Sparrow 18:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)