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Date Process Result
2 October 2006 Featured article candidate Failure
9 November 2006 Failed featured article candidate
Current status: Failed featured article candidate

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[edit] Just Want To Say Thanks

The contributers at this site have made an excellent achievment in Wookiepedia, it continues to enthrall me! Thanks!

And i'd hate to sound like some nerd but Thank you George Lucas and the authors of the EU! Your tales of that Galxy far, far away inspire new generations!

I confidently say that 100 years from now there will still be Star wars fans and People watching it!


[edit] Credits

To view the history from the Wikipedia article at the time it was copied, see Talk:Star Wars/Credits.

[edit] Movie article names

I notice that for each movie's article, the title is in the form "Star Wars Episode X: Title of Movie". This seems a bit redundant for a Star Wars wiki; why not shorten it to "Episode X: Title of Movie". The old article names would be redirects, of course. Aidje 10:27, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

[edit] You know...

You know what's incredibly sad? The fact that this is Wookieepedia, and of all articles, this one, is one of the least improved since the wiki began (not to mention that fact that, as a direct result, it hasn't been featured here either, which is ever more sad). :( What the hell's wrong with us? This is the defining article of Wookieepedia! We need to get to it with this one! :) Adamwankenobi 07:26, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • I would like to had links to some character names in the list. The fact Agen Kolar is similar to Star Trek's Worf is cool but... Who is Agen Kolar ? This is H(yper)T(text)ML, so there should be links where they could help understand better the subject. Thus, I believe there is a need for more links here. If there is no disagreement, I'll start to add links on this page some day this week (I'll add Agen Kolar's link now...). Paercebal 18:21, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sound

I don't know where's the best place to ask this question,

In real life, you can't hear in space (you can only hear sounds with in your own ship), to make Star Wars more real, why don't they take out every sound when the camera (what you see from the T.V.) is in space?

Because Lucas likes there to be sound in space. Things work differently in the Star Wars universe. Adamwankenobi 22:33, 13 Dec 2005 (UTC)

They want toshow how big and destructive these battles are. If there were no sounds, it would be boring. -Darth_Cow-Small.PNG --DarthCow--Talk|Email

  • I have to tell my dad that whenever he complains. lol --beeurd 00:15, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Note that if Battlestar Galactica 2004 used more realistic physics for space, there is still sounds in space battle, despite the fact there is no way for sound to exist in space, so it must be something really important for the story and mood... ; p ... Paercebal 18:03, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I can't remember where I heard that, but it once was explained with a device on warships that somehow catches up the sound out in space to give the pilot an idea of where the enemy is

[edit] Spoilers

Is it really nescerrcery to include the spoiler tag here? It seems a bit silly.

Yeah. I agree. It's not like you wouldn't excpect there to be a lot of Spoilers. –Darth_Cow-Small.PNG --DarthCow--Talk|Email

  • Spoilers should only be for newly released or unreleased material, not older things like the films. -LtNOWIS 21:57, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Characters

Is Admiral Piett a major character?? I mean, someone who knows a little about Star Wars doesn't know him!!!!!! Axel Shan

Where do you see that he's a major character? Admittedly, Wedge Antilles gets a similar amount of screen time as Piett does, but Wedge's prominence in the EU is enough to tip the scales in his case. Piett is an important character, but not a major one in my opinion. Jwebb13 00:10, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star Wars

There is no greater achievment then the miracle of Star Wars. You may believe me to be a mindless nerdy fan. But if that is the cost to love this great wonder, then so be it!

[edit] The Ultimate Irony

When George Lucas first concieved of Star Wars, he intended it to be a happy Sci-Fi tale. But the Star Wars universe has grown to become tragic and complicated, with almost constant wars and deaths and general destruction. user:Darth Vatrir

  • The ultimate irony is that Star Wars have a "larger than life" constant that leads to a serie of deus ex machina, that is, that each story must have greater battles, greater destruction, greater surprises than the last, often, without a real background or explanation. How many giant machines we have in all EU, after the two Death Stars ? (Like Highlander, perhaps there should have been only one...) More seriously, the Ultimate Irony is that Star Wars is a very rich background that remains centered around clones (Luuke, Jarus C'Baoth, Palpatine, etc. etc.) wars against planetary war machines and darksiders finding redemption into the light side. The Skywalker family is too much, too. The father and son should have been enough, but having a whole generational tree... There are so many plots that could be explored, other moods, etc.. This leads, IMHO, to a cheapening of the 6 major episodes. Paercebal 18:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  • You're right. The EU is going to eventually stagnate and run out of ideas. It's exemplified in Star Wars: Legacy, which has the Sith back. ANAKIN DESTROYED THE SITH FOREVER.

And the whole "Cloned emperor" storyline after the Excellent Thrawn trilogy was tedious. They should have just left him dead.

  • Just one thing, you can't destroy the Sith forever. Their not just an order made up of people, but their an idea. And the Sith have been exterminated more than once, and somehow they keep coming back. Look at Exar Kun's story, he ressurected an extinct order by finding one of their holocrons and communicating with dead Sith spirits.

Oh, about Dark Empire and the "Cloned Emperor", I happen to disagree with you. I thought the idea was sound, the comic was good, the story could have been better, but it was still good the way it was. Darth Vatrir

  • Ever read the Bhagavad Gita ? Sith Spit 13:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk of Previous Books?

A person I know has stated that the whole concept of Star Wars was already created by another author (and no we're not apparantly talking Alan Dean Foster here) that wrote up to 20 or 30 books years before the release of A New Hope, that cover the span of all of the movies (Episodes I through VI), including ones with titles like "Clone Wars" and "Return of the Jedi". The person I know stated that it was like Tolkien's LOTR Trilogy and that people who saw the original SW movies in the 70s and 80s knew about these books and compared to them, and that even Lucas himself talked of pre-existing SW books in interviews. I find a majority of this to be false but am keeping an open mind. Was there any allusion that any of this might have happened? -- Riffsyphon1024 17:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I think this is one of those urban legends, like the theatrical release of Star Wars with the Biggs scenes included. There are SF novel cycles which predate Star Wars and share similar story elements and themes (Dune, the Foundation series, the Lensmen series, etc.,) but that's hardly the same thing. —Silly Dan (talk) 17:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Exactly what I was trying to get across to them. Lucas took much inspiration from previous stories but there was no "Star Wars" before his movie (or the Foster novelization). -- Riffsyphon1024 17:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured

Has this been a FA yet? If not, then it should be. Unit 8311 16:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Third Sequel Trilogy

Why is there no real mention about the rumored sequels except for brief mention? I remember hearing rumors on TFn that Peter Mayhew had been tapped for more movies, and just today that Harrison Ford told GL "No" to appearing again as Solo. Shouldn't that be in here as well? I don't wanna add it without sources just to have it be erased in 5 minutes... Duke Starhopper 06:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

3 Sequals were part of Lucas' vision, but without a doubt it will not happen, as it can't live up to the hype, and it will most likely void the entire Post ROTJ Expanded Universe.

[edit] Please read, and tell me it's just a joke...

http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/news20050624.html Xepeyon 15:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Why should it be a joke? Fans have been contributing to the saga for years. Design an Alien, for instance, which produced Yoda's Jedi Master - \\Captain Kwenn// Ahoy! 15:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] star wars "science fantasy" according to wikipedia

Ive been trying to convince the star wars contributers on wikipedia that Star Wars is science fiction not fantasy. If any of you are editors on wikipedia please go there and try to convince them.There is no reason for it to be "science fantasy" (whatever that means).--Nadirali نادرالی


I am not sure, but I remembering reading somwhere, that until SW came out in 77, it was the only movie until it's time to not show the credits at the begining. Can anyone back me on this? BobafettH23 18:56, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Science Fiction generally means a focus on technology that is often explained in an effort to make believable to the audience. Technically speaking, Star Wars has more in common with epic fantasy like Lord of the Rings or Dungeons and Dragons than Star Trek or anything from Ray Bradbury. The fact is, the G-canon movies are entirely focused on traditional heroes, relationships, and the unseen mystical Force that binds everything together. Space Opera, yes. Space Fantasy, if you wanna call it that. Epic Fantasy, for sure, but Science Fiction? I'd say the Expanded Universe offers a lot of sci-fi to the Star Wars realm, but that is more because the authors have personal tastes (like Timothy Zahn's focus on space battles) than with any overall vision by George Lucas. I'd say that Star Wars is such a conglomeration of ideas and genres that Space Opera would really be the only suitable term for it. --Gabeth 20:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

  • "Rated PG for Sci-Fi violence"
    • Hardly relevant. That mentions only the violence, and besides, there is no space fantasy or space opera categories to put SW in. DarthMRN 04:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] two more

[1] two more star wars movies? 24.208.55.168 20:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other movies

Is there going to be any movies? Like 7, 8, and 9? -- Uneven elephant 00:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] X Wing Alliance

Hi, would've thought X-Wing Alliance was worthy of mention in the games section as it's the last true X-Wing game...

[edit] Reorganize the "books" section

—I think the Books section in the Starwars overview page http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars] here[/url] needs a overhaul . I made a smaal change were it said there were "dozens of books" to "nearly 100 books". after rereading the artical several more times, it dawned on me that term books was just to broad. It's used to describe novels in one part and reference material in another, while the whole section seems to imply novels. If one includes ALL books, novels, reference, junior and other books, there several hundred. there should also be a link to the books list page http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_books#Novels] here[/url]. I would do this myself, but I am new here and dont want to offend anyone.

– — … ° ≈ ≠ ± − × ÷ ← → · § squirrel 17:43, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

OK I did it (squirrel 01:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC))

[edit] I think The Canon/Non-Canon thing should cease

Many people are taking this sci-fi Star Wars a bit too seriously as you guys are. I saw this ridiculous video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfoVJByDZow

This happened about sometime when Celebration IV happened (if I'm correct).

I'm a bit stunned that Christians would go this far. If its true you're taking it as a religion, you should cease. I do agree with this person with one thing; you are putting yourselves in jeopardy. Believe it or not, Star Wars is not that popular as it was used to be. I'm saying its getting so predictable, many of us fans are tiring of whats canon or non-canon.

Since the release of KOTOR, many fans have been debating the genders of "Revan" & The "Jedi Exile" and other characters in other RPG games. If its true the majority of the fans want female Revan/male Exile, JUST GIVE IT TO THEM! And we can end this idiotic matters. If you want Star Wars to last, serve the fans, NOT YOURSELVES!

I'm asking everyone at LucasArts to seriously drop this and get on with your lives. Many things are at stake. And please, I know this violates the rules, for once, please make an exception. Maybe you guys can make separate universes of Star Wars, how bout that? Don't be so predictable in deleting this message. So don't be so biased.

Cheaster

You seem to be talking about several different things here:
  1. There are very few, if any, people on this site who treat Star Wars seriously as a religion. I certainly don't. Many of our other regular contributors are devout Christians, and see no contradiction between their religion and their fandom. Likewise, the man in the linked video does not speak for most Christians.
  2. Lucasfilm and its licensees prefer to settle certain events and facts as canonical in the overall storyline, because they, their writers, and most fans prefer things to have some consistency. This requires, among other things, that all fiction which refers to the storylines of various games has to make a few assumptions about the outcome of the games and the nature of the player-controlled characters. That's all.
  3. If you want to petition Lucasarts or Lucasfilm to do something, asking the users of an unofficial fansite like ours is not the way to go about it. —Silly Dan (talk) 17:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
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