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  • There isn't supposed to be anymore Sith after Anakin fullfilled the prophecy so this is total trash.

Meh.. kind of lame, given the Legacy novel series won't be finished for several years.. and these comics are going so far ahead. It'll like, ruin any of the surprises. :( Unless this comic series isn't.. canonical? -Danik Kreldin 18:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

  • It is canon, but I think it's far enough ahead to not ruin the LotF series. Besides, it's fairly obvious the Skywalker line will continue. Oh, and I don't think we should add a date just yet - John Ostrander said on the DH message boards this series happens 100 years after the LotF books, meaning, 100 years after the last book, and we don't currently know when that series ends - Kwenn 18:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, we know the first three books of LOTF are in the same year. And I was careful to always make sure that the date was an approximation. Kuralyov 22:04, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Wonderful, a new Sith Order, a new Empire and Quinlan Vos 2.0.
Shoot me now. >S VT-16 21:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • You could kinda tell that the Sith would rise again. It's the natural order of the Galaxy. The Sith rise, they wage a terrible war, are totally destroyed, and then a new group takes it's name and starts it all over again. That being said, I would also like to make the same request as VT-16: Please shoot me. -- SFH 22:20, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, pirates are awesome, but a pirate skywalker? Idunno. seems more like something the offspring of the solos would do. Either way, By this, I guess we can infer that Lumiya created the new sith order, and the galactic alliance turned into another empire.--Xilentshadow900 22:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • That's the problem. It will ruin the LotF no matter how far ahead it is, because we know that they will fail in the end. -- SFH 22:37, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, we all knew exactly how Episode III was going to go, and that was still a great movie, wasn't it?--Xilentshadow900 23:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
      • And also, we didn't judge Episode III before it was released.... - Kwenn 23:02, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
      • Anyway, a lot can happen in 100 years. In another 100 year period there was: The clone wars, the galactic civil war, the yuuzhan vong war... A lot of stuff can happen, so we really can't tell for sure.--Xilentshadow900 23:03, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
        • I personally like the "new Sith Order and new Empire" thing. I've been hoping for that ever since I read the first book of the New Jedi Order series. Admiral J. Nebulax 23:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
          • I sense a new RPG in the future...--Xilentshadow900 23:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • All I can say is Whoa. There's so much room for expansion here. -- Riffsyphon1024 22:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  • How much do you want to bet this will be crap? -- Doo Doo 01:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
  • It's a fantastic excuse to introduce more cyclic plots.YIIMM 07:12, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Call me crazy, but I'm going to wait until the series is released until I pass judgement.
What's that? Waiting till I read the comic until I decide whether it's crap?. I'm no true fan... QuentinGeorge 07:28, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I just see warning signs popping up all over this: A blond, bleached Quinlan Vos-lookalike, who's an ex-Jedi turned pirate (WTF?), has a Millennium Falcon-lookalike, basically seems like a combination of Luke, Han, Vos, and that Jedi Exile from KOTOR 2, his symbol being a ripoff of the Mandalorian Mythosaur insignia, a Twilek Darth Maul-lookalike (with the skimpiest outfit I've ever seen on a Sith XP), a "new Empire", a "new Sith Order"? And it's being written by John Ostrander. Sorry, but "I've got a bad feeling about this".
Besides, there's an entire galaxy to pick stories from, and dozens of potential eras, yet they still can't move away from the Skywalker family. It just seems like a wasted opportunity. Even Rebellion will continue with Luke and Co. Ugh. VT-16 10:20, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    • you haven't read it yet. Stop complaining.--Xilentshadow900 12:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Another Skywalker? Sith? Empire? Again? After ROTJ? Makes the movies look insignificant. The Jedi Order nearly destroyed? How many more times can they exploit this idea?

All I can say is, lame, lame, lame, lame, lame. It destroyed Star Wars for me. - Sikon [Talk] 14:57, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

  • It's amazing how many people seem to have advance copies of the entire series - y'know, since they all seem to know exactly what the series is going to be like :| - Kwenn 15:43, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm just basing my scepticism on the long history of EU publishing, which have primarily concerned itself with the Skywalker family and their constant involvment with Sith, superweapons, defeating galactic threat #54122, going back and forth with the Dark Side etc. There is literally a galaxy's worth of characters and so many different eras to focus on, the continued refusal to move on with other characters simply smack of wasted potential.
I'd like to see more of the galaxy and be able to read stories that don't focus on Jedi or Sith or Skywalkers at all, but that's not what we're gonna get from Dark Horse. Seeing who's involved with the writing and the gimmicks they're employing gives me a pretty good idea how this will turn out. Just a repeat of the same events with new characters ad nauseum. VT-16 16:00, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Seriously, if you bastards are going to the future to read the comic, at least be somewhat useful and give me the lottery numbers.--Xilentshadow900 19:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I wonder why they would focus this series so much into the future and not in the Ben Skywalker age. QX100 18:14, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Because there are books for that--Xilentshadow900 20:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

if your going to say it is lame before it is even out dont bother posting about it if you are a star wars fan be happy about anythign that is new i like all the books and comics(sept infinities)for crying out loud if you are going to cry every time they release somethign wihtout the original charectors or obi wan and anakin skywalked you cry guess what your not really a star wars fan your just a regular science fiction fan so shut up and unless you have something positive to say say nothing at all

No way. We should not shut up. We should oppose shoddy exploitative work vigorously, so when this all ends, we can look back on a beautiful whole, not something intermittently neat and plagued with commercial trash. --Maru (talk) Contribs 02:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
  • if you are a star wars fan be happy about anythign that is new
I would be happy about anything new, if I wasn't familiar with a particular author's work and found it less than stellar already.
for crying out loud if you are going to cry every time they release somethign wihtout the original charectors or obi wan and anakin skywalked you cry guess what your not really a star wars fan
First of all, you've missed the target completely. This is not about wanting more Obi-wan or Anakin or any more Skywalker-shenanigans at all, it's actually the complete opposite. I would even like a Skywalker-centered story, if not for previous experience with certain authors. On the other hand, the upcoming Rebellion comic, also from Dark Horse, seems to have more of what I want, a focus on non-movie characters in new settings and big battles as backgrounds (after all this time, it's getting harder for authors to remember the War part of Star Wars).
However, a Jedi Space Pirate decended from Luke, running around a new Empire, with T&A-providing Sith, written by the man who gave us "Dark Side-flirting rogue Jedi Master who still end up good and with T&A to spare" does not give me good hope for this particular series, and that's why I'm going to keep my scepticism about this, until it's released. VT-16 10:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
It should be pointed out that Cade isn't actually a pirate. He spent some time with one, but that isn't his profession in this series. QuentinGeorge 10:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
  • This is gonna sound like crap with everybody complaining about the series, but does anyone know if you can preorder it or anything? In my opinion, the series sounds great...

Another possible reason is that I haven't heard of John Osstrander or whatever the hell his name is. If it was KJA I'd be worried, but he doesn't do comics... --Imp88

  • Ah, whatever. That wasn't my point anyway. I have heard of Tales of the Jedi, I just didn't know he wrote it.

well i think this is going to be great if you dont like this to bad i think it is about time there is an actual tough looking skywalker

  • Luke and Anakin didn't need to look "tough" to have interesting stories. VT-16 13:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I have no reason not to like this comic. I really like this. Fanfics, books, other comics, etc. can fill in the gap between Legacy of the Force and Legacy. I don't see any reason not to like it. Jeedai123 17:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
  • A Jedi Space Pirate descended from Luke
    I have to admit, Cade does seem to potray the fanonist's dream come true.

Sounds like a bad fanfic story being adapted to canon for me. Hell, I've written fanfics, a lot of my friends have written fanfics, about a popular era(KOTOR), why couldn't a comic base on *that* game come out. I am not talking about the recent KOTOR comic, since it is based before the game, I want a comic *based on the game*. You here me Dark Horse? No bad fanfics! No stories post Yavin should be without the main characters of the OOT, not one.

  • We will see today with the release of the first issue. -- Riffsyphon1024 10:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Good God, will SOMEBODY just declare this whole bloody mess Non Canon, next we'll see Palpy being reserected, a Han Solo wannabe... WAIT A MINUTE! we've already got one, who's also Luke Skywalker, Atton "the-Angst-ma-bot 1000" Rand, and god-knows-who-else in a poodoo flavored sausage roll, seriously, it's just so "used" as a plot on the whole, if they knock off the republic this fandom is doomed. I say, Tank the whole "legacy" idea and declare it non canon, then create something ORIGINAL, that's what the whole STAR WARS idea IS, originality, not re-processed bile like this, unless it ends on the happy republic-happy-valley-not-axing-jedi-for-some-pratts-in-cortosis-armor then I will NEVER forgive jan or that writer guy for this, nor will many other fans.

EmpireEdit

Do we know that the Emperor mentioned is supposed to be a Galactic Emperor? Because there were a lot of minor Emperor's ruling sectors, clusters, and even just planets. Even with all the disorder of the Vong, I have trouble believing that the Galaxy would just role over and accept another Empire. -- SFH 01:09, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Its the Imperial Remnant. Jasca Ducato 10:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
    • And some of the Imperials wish to expand their territory from the Remnant. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Question on TimingEdit

Question on timing of events. At the beginning of Legacy, had the Ossus massacre already occurred in the past or did it just happen? The reason that I ask is because if it just happened and Cade just fled the temple, when did he have time to be a padawan, pirate's apprentice, bounty hunter and ship captain? I have a feeling a lot of our timing maybe messed up. The LOTF books may lead right into this era. Stinkywookie 18:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • (Beware, this post contains spoilers):
Having read the first issue, it takes place in 130 ABY, as the last event of the Sith-Imperial War. Cade is a Padawan and escapes the massacre with some younglings. His father is killed defending them and his master looses an arm. During a dogfight with Imperial fighters above the planet, Cade's starfighter is blown up but he survives, and is separated from the others, who are forced to jump into hyperspace.
Later, Darth Krayt arrives on Coruscant, betrays the Emperor, kills him and takes his place, forcing the Moff Council to swear fealty to him. Unfortunately, the man was a decoy, with the real Emperor Fel still alive and could break the Empire in half, if parts of the military still supports him. I assume the second issue will jump ten years into the future. VT-16 00:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Why is this even cannon? Edit

"Cade Skywalker has been the target of most of the criticism, because of his looks, the idea that he may not be able to save the Jedi Order, or that he is a Skywalker."

I agree with the 1st and 3rd points of argument. --Maaul--(Send Message|Enlist|Request Reinforcments) 01:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

    • This is not the place for personal opinions. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 02:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
    • What is stated in the BTS section is not ruled by canonicity. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Intro (Crawl) Edit

are we allowed to add this to the page or is it a copyright violation? Honestly as soon as I read this I decided to get Broken and now i'm hooked.


After the death of Emperor Palpatine, the defeated Imperial forces pulled back to Bastion, near the Unknown Regions, and called a truce with the New Republic. The Jedi, under Luke Skywalker, again became agents of peace across the galaxy

That peace was shattered by an invasion of fanatical extra-galactic aliens called the Yuuzhan Vong. These "Far Outsiders" killed trillions and devastated entire worlds, taking Coruscant itself and fracturing the New Republic. A Galactic Alliance of remaining systems, Jedi, and the Imperial Remnant finally defeated the invaders, exiling them to the living planet Zonoma Sekot.

Meanwhile, a new breed of Sith, a legion of them led by Darth Krayt, kept patient watch. Emerging from hiding on the planet Korriban, the Sith formed an alliance with the newly reforged Empire. Together they manufactured an incident that sundered the Galactic Alliance and began a brutal war. The Jedi alone remained to defy the Sith and now they are few.

However, the name SKYWALKER still burns among them--a legacy of hope in a galaxy of darkness . . .

  • This is amazing! -- [[Darth Nefarious] Darth Nefarious 07:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Comic sources from concepts/earlier drafts... Edit

I was reading through the "Making of Star Wars" book and noticed that there was some resemblance between the Pellaeon class and the Cantwell concept model for the SD (see pp.69, 78), particularly in terms of the superstructure and the forward "antennae". Comparison with the Ready to Die pictures has some details here not represented in the page yet, btw. In any case, there was, I think, deliberate mining of conceptual material (mostly plot-wise) from the original film in the Legacy comic series. I think the clearest parallels are the father-figure (Kane-Annikin) and (Kol-Cade) (story treatment, rough draft and first draft), the Imperial Knights (from the rough draft, where the Jedi were the Emperor's bodyguard), the reiteration of the escaping princess theme (story treatment, rough draft) and the roguish character of Cade (originally Annikin/Luke and Han were one character and the hero was a bit of a romantic scoundrel).--Jeffbacca 16:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

  • That is quite revealing. Perhaps they meant for this. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Trivia? Edit

is all the stuff at the bottom of this article, relating to Firefly, really that relevant? Did John, Jan, or Randy say at any point that they watched Firefly and immediately came up with the idea behind "Legacy"? it's, so far as i know, non-canon speculation and doesn't really IMHO belong in a page that should only offer "facts". a reasonable amount of conjecture as to the underlying themes and plot points i can see the merit of, but a fanboy/girl making unnecissary and unsited speculation seems wrong. just curiousJedi Master LucMaster Luc

  • That is indeed rather fanwankish. It has now been removed. (BTW, Mal > Cade.) :-) -- Ozzel

Characters section amiss?Edit

It appears that this section as it is currently wastes a lot of space and doesn't really flow with the rest of the article. While I'd still support that showcases the characters, can it be done differently? -- Riffsyphon1024 07:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

  • I will retract this now since those sections have been since filled in. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone reckon at somepoint there will be a video game based on this? Edit

For example taking place after comics where Cade Skywalker has to face Darth Wyrrlok

Someone missed my question but sorry to ask again Edit

Will there ever be a video game about Star Wars Legacy? Unsigned comment by 86.156.102.85 (talk • contribs).

  • First, learn to sign your posts. Second, no, so far there had never been a video game based on any SW novel or comic series, and it's highly unlikely there will ever be. MauserComlink 22:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi it's JM2008, forgot to keep signin in as i struggle to find ways to sign my posts. I was only wondering because Knights of the Old Republic has a comic series and 2 video games. Also if you look at the years of the Legacy Era it says 1,000ABY and 2,000ABY saying the Jerec's force ghost and Sith Spirits are trapped in the Valley of the Jedi.

  • No, there won't be such a game. Chack Jadson (Talk) 22:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
    • KOTOR, The Force Unleashed, The Old Republic, Shadows of the Empire, Dark Forcescomics were all based on the video games rather than being a basis for them. To sign your post, just type ~~~~ at the end of it. MauserComlink 22:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

So Star Wars Legacy is just going to be comic based from what I hear then. I was just interested in seeing a game take place in the Legacy Era.

Order of Issues Edit

I just got into reading these, and i just wondered why the TPB's are all out of order. Did they ever say why they did this? --Admiral Carth Onasi 00:10, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

  • The TPB's arrange the stories thematically. Some focus on the adventures of Cade Skywalker and Co, while other flesh out the war of Roan Fel and Gar Stazi against the Galactic Empire. MauserComlink 00:28, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back so fast. Now I don't need to get all 5 at once from the library and pick thru them to find the numerical order. Admiral Carth Onasi 00:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

After Star Wars Legacy Edit

Do we have any idea of what might take place after this comic series

(JM2008)


Originality?

(MB)

The End Edit

Should there be something in this article about how the series is ending with issue 50? --Jaguartalon 03:14, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Solo's? Where are the solo's? Edit

where are desndents of Jaina or Allana? I assume they wont be Solo's being female... damn no male Solo bloodline... but the f***? were the writerss dropping acid and watching ROTJ when they thought of this? I'd assume a double barreled Solo-XXX or XXX-solo name somewhere for fans. Jaina for sure would have had kids the way she is. I is disapoint...

Canon? Edit

Why is this wiki treating this series as canon? It is just a silly comic book series that is unrelated to the novels.

  • Because it is canon. The novels are leading up to it. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 08:19, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

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