Talk: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

The Force Unleashed 3?

I've seen a lot of news stories about TFU3 being cancelled, but I didn't even know it was announced? I mean there's nothing on here about it, I didn't even know it was rumoured. Can anyone shed any light on this? 86.170.115.38 07:54, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

True, there have been a lot of rumors. I don't know, but from some interviews I have seen of Julio Torres, he makes it sound like they are still going to be working on it even though Haden Blackman started his own company and left Lucasarts.GalenMarek1^{Leave a comment.} 15:48, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Platform

So far there is no information saying it will be released for PSP? The first one was, I don't see why they wouldn't for the second installment... Korsa3 23:18, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

release date

On here it says October 26 but at the end of the demo it says 29/10/10 which doesn't make sense to me.--{{SUBST:User:InoNOTHING/sig}}. 03:40, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps it's being released at different times in different countries? The date format you just used is European (or Asian, etc) and the release date put out is 10/26/2010 (American date format). Just a thought. Korsa3 18:00, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think 26th is USA and 29th is UK 86.129.138.2 06:43, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

РС

Sorry but the PC is not in the original version. Only in the supplementary edition to the PC —Unsigned comment by Лорандикус (talk • contribs).

Redundant/misplaced information in the gameplay section

I find no reason for the final boss battle to be described in such detail in this section, as well as all the in-universe, plot-related information that has nothing to do with gameplay in any direct way whatsoever. It is redundant and does not properly reflect the purpose of the section, to detail common gameplay elements the player may experience throughout the game rather than just one segment of it, and in an out-universe style. If the plot elements are to be kept in this article, they may has well be moved to plot-related or in-universe sections of the article. Immblueversion 20:55, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

• Then fix it. --Doctor Kermit^(Complain.) 21:28, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
  • I did once and it was reverted. I'll do so again. Immblueversion 01:43, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

TFU 3?

Hey all. I just finished the game today, and followed the canon lightside ending I was just wondering to anyone else who has: will there be a 3? It's pretty opene ended, I'll tell about it below—Unsigned comment by Mar1 (talk • contribs).

• No, there will not be another Force Unleashed game. The entire team that made both games were fired prior to the second game's release, plus Haden Blackman left the company. The TFU saga is more or less over. Qwo 02:48, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
  • Please keep discussion related to the article, not the topic, and sign your posts. See the header above. MasterFred^(Whatever) 02:51, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

There have also been rumors and possible announcements that TFU 3 is not cancelled.—Unsigned comment by 71.252.171.37 (talk • contribs).

Move

Should we move this to "Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II (video game)"? It would make more sense, since TFU2 refers to the whole project, including games, books, comics, toys, etc., not just the video game.--ID-21 Dolphin ^(Talk) 21:44, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

• The game is the center piece of the project. Everything else is adaptation. Darth Morrt 21:50, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

This CANT be canon!

This game has effectively broken Star Wars lore, so how can this game be considered canon? It has been established by Lucas himself that YOU CANNOT CLONE JEDI! The only way you could "clone" a Jedi is to produce a replacement body to resurrect an existing person. Basically, you can clone someone a body so that they are alive again, but you can't make an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT being that is able to use the Force. So, essentially, is this game canon? Because if so, it is the first step to ruining star wars lore. —Unsigned comment by 24.63.181.250 (talk • contribs).

• Please sign your posts. And yes, the game is canon. MasterFred^(Whatever) 16:15, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • And Force-sensitive beings can obviously be cloned. Palpatine was cloned. MasterFred^(Whatever) 16:18, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
    • Don't forget Luuke Skywalker and Joruus C'baoth. Although Palpatine's clones had the same soul and memories, similar to Marek.--Doctor Kermit^(Complain.) 16:23, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
      • Also Falon Grey and his clones, X1 and X2. Master Jonathan ^{(Jedi Council Chambers)} 16:35, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
        • Not to mention that X1 and X2 were active during the Clone Wars, and Kota would actually train X2. --Doctor Kermit^(Complain.) 16:41, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
          • Just because George Lucas says something it does not make it cannon, Unless he Specificaly puts it into a final product. George Lucas has also said that in his story Boba fetter never survived the Sarlacc. Behind the scenes conversation only let us know what he is thinking at the time and how he wishes things to be, not what is Canon. So far it seems that it is not impossible to clone force sensitive people it is just rare that they do not come out insane.(66.20.176.213 21:42, October 28, 2010 (UTC))
• So wait did Boba Fett survive the Sarlac or not--Tomahawk23 01:32, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
  • Actually, he said that he didn't think Fett survived, but some people do--a reference to the EU. Clear, concise statements from Lucas about information, however, is in fact considered top-level canon; Wookieepedia just has to reconcile other material as well. The argument swings both ways, but we're obliged to treat cloned Jedi at least as C-canon here. -Zekk_Skywalk 23:14, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
    • Well, there are some things that George Lucas says that do end up becoming canon. Case in point, the recent unveiling of Stewjon as Obi-Wan Kenobi's homeworld. It was also done previously with the revelation of Admiral Conan Antonio Motti's full name. As the Maker of the Star Wars universe, Lucas has authority in that regard. Darth Nordeck 18:40, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
      • I do not know if you are correct in the assessment that what he says is instantly considered cannon. It needs to go through the Lucas licensing filter or at least get confirmation from someone like Leland Y Chee. Case in point, Everyone was asking if Stewjon was going to be a joke or if it would be officially recognized, and It was not until Leland Y Chee confirmed it as said he was adding it to the holocron that we officially can add it here without a ambiguous cannon tag. Also just curious as to what other material you refer to, not because I do not belive you but because I do not know, thanks.[[[Special:Contributions/66.20.176.213|66.20.176.213]] 17:32, November 9, 2010 (UTC)]
        • How can you question Lucas' take on something? He made the universe, hence if he says yes or no it's yes or no for better or for worse (as lets face it the guy is far from infallible). I don't see how you can debate whether what he says is officially canon or not it's the only true source of actual canon and definitely the highest level. What an unbelievably arrogant thing to say. As a writer myself if my fans tried to eradicate my authority on any of my work there would be issues.User:Semper
      • I don,t consider it cannon no matter what any one says. —Unsigned comment by 75.105.128.36 (talk • contribs).

Lucas said in the audio comment of Episode 6 that first a scene was planned showing Fett´s survival.--77.11.181.193 21:06, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

• Weather it is or is not canon, TFU series is very unrealistic to Star Wars. Besides a bad story and stupid characters the game and comics of the game ruin Darth Vader and Boba Fett and have some stuff that does not make sense. Lets start with Vader killing Starkiller, Vader stabs him, through the lung slams him through glass and into walls and throws him into space he would have been, dead as soon as he was in Space. Plus how did Vader recover him before he, died from lack of air plus the wounds he had already had he was mortally, wounded. And even if you can be fixed after all that. Then how come people didn't find the body's of every person who they loved or, something and bring them to a medical center. Next off we have Vader wanting to over throw Sidious. Vader never cared about taking Sidious place wall many Sith feel the desire to kill their master, Vader never seemed like he wanted to kill Sidious or take his place he was perfectly happy with his position. So why did Vader want that? and if it was so he could have Starkiller to kill Jedi well he was able to take on 15 Jedi at once with just a few Stormtroopers, And if he was busy or was getting to old or something he had Boba Fett to do it for him. So was it really, that important to have another Jedi killer that he would kill Sidious?. Now, how did Starkiller learn Juyo before he fought Ram Kota it says that he used Juyo on Juyos page on, Wookipedia. Now I know were not always 100% accurate but we generally are accurate and i'm pretty sure that, that info is accurate. So Vader utilized Form V, and, probably, new a little, from Form III or something maybe a little Juyo. But it said Starkiller, heavily favored it so he would have had to, have known a lot doubt Vader knew enough to make him a master, of it. So that don't make no sense?. Now i,m, sure theirs, more stupid $#!t in it but i'm not gona think of all of it iv'e got some other stuff in it to talk about. Now lets talk about his heavily over exaggerated, Force powers. They have a thing in the trailer for TFU 2 where he kills a tone of Stormtroopers with one thing from the Force and vader was right their, why didn't he kill Vader? and im sure, Yoda was just as, powerful if not more in the Force then him same with Sidious and Plagueis if they were as or more powerful then him why didn't they use it in their battles?. Plus even if Starkiller, was way more powerful then Yoda he's not. You see being powerful in the force isn't just about how sensitive to it you are its about your knowledge training and understanding of it and how many abilities that the force offers, that you have learned or mastered. Yoda and many others have mastered way more then him, so had Vader. So he ain't has powerful as everyone says. Also it, was said in a interview about the game that the game, is about kicking someones ass with the force. Now onto Vader Vs Starkiller, Starkiller could have never ever beat Vader, Vader was way more experienced intelligent skilled trained and had mastered more of the force then he had Also his armor was one of 3 or something lightsaber resistant metals. Starkiller was also, quit arrogant this was a huge disadvantage for him. Vader took on 15 Jedi at, once with just a few Stormtroopers and, killed them all. All of them were Jedi Knights and Masters. Starkiller could have only fought 2 maybe 3 masters depending on who it, was and beat them. Starkiller beating him went against everything, Vader had been shown to posses and ruined his bad ass and dominating nature to a degree. Now onto the Boba Fett Vs Starkiller. Now I know their fight was non canon but, their was a comic or something about what happened at the Battle of Kamino that did not have Starkiller participating in. Now Boba fett said in it to Vader that he had seen what Starkiller would do and did not want to be around to face him when he came. Which wall Fett knows when he, can't beat someone which their never was but their were times where he couldn't win. But this guy dude Fett could slaughter him, his father Jango Fett killed six Jedi with his bare hands who were all Masters and Knights. Starkiller couldn't even kill six with a lightsaber. Its arguable that Boba can beat Jango but its so close that, Boba could kill all those Jedi at once, with his bare hands one way or another. Fett has the advantage in training intelligence experience tactics the fact that he studies his opponents reputation then calculates, his opponents every move and then knows it before, they even make it. He is also not arrogant and he is a expert in counter force user tactics so, Starkillers force powers would work against him he has weapons to get around, lightsabers and the force and his Mandalorian armor can block a lightsaber, and he can use his Jet Pack to gain distance and wall Starkiller can pull him to him im sure Fett has dealt with that before and, has ways of countering it. Plus he beat Vader but spared him Boba Fett. Just like with Vader, it goes against everything he has been shown to posses and ruins, his bad ass nature. Now I know I sound like a Boba Fett and Darth Vader fanboy which I am, but i'm trying to prove a point that their is no way that Starkiller could beat Vader or that Fett would think that he could not beat him or that Fett couldn't. But the real reason the game can't be canon isn't that he beat Vader and Fett thought he could not beat him, its that their is so much in the game that doesn't make sense and that conflicts with canon stuff i'm sure if I looked into it more and played TFU 1 again and beat TFU 2 i'd have more stuff to say but that's all i have do you guys agree with me?. --Tomahawk23 18:38, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Tomahawk23, your argument as to why Marek would be unable to defeat Vader goes rightout the window, based on one simple fact... Vader was beaten by Luke Skywalker, technically still a padawan until he did beat Vader, and had shown what knowledge of the force? He showed the ability to move his lightsabre and the ability to force persuade. He failed to lift his ship out of the swamp, which Yoda did with ease... In fact, Yoda's ability to use the force to move Luke's x-wing with little effort in his old age seems to imply that it would be possible, while difficult and with great struggle, for someone strongly connected to the force to pull a star destroyer class ship that was in a planets atmosphere down.

• • "Join me and we can rule the galaxy as father and son..." seems to imply he plans to overthrow Palpatine, and anyway, the Rule of Two is pretty well defined canon. Otherwise I completely agree. Whereas the KOTOR games were well written and executed, TFU games are not. Bad characters (really, love afair with Juno Ecipse after like two lines of dialogue together?), bad writing, one no-name defeating two of the most powerful Sith ever, Palpatine starting the Rebelion (which may have been interesting if done well), Starkiller ripping a Star Destroyer out of the sky, (why would Yoda never have done that?), on-and-on... Not to mention that the games weren't that great to begin with. They were buggy little hack-n-slashes, where you mash buttons and take thousands of blaster shots before you Force Lightning your way to the end.
    • Boba Fett escaping the Sarlacc pit is one thing, but having Star Wars "canon" coming from, not writers, but code developers trying to show off what they can do with a Star Wars liscence is not okay.--170.173.0.16 03:15, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
      • Very trye, fantastic points there.--Tomahawk23 14:57, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
        • I'm sorry, but this is not the place to complain about whether or not you like the game. It's canon (with only two n's), whether you like it or not, and I would ask that you please take this conversation somewhere else. As it says on the top of this page: "This space is used for discussion relating to changes to the article, not for a discussion about the topic in question." Cade Calrayn 15:24, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

It was canon when this topic was made, and its maker is ignorant, but Pablo Hidalgo tweeted that TCW retconned it with Onderon. Conner itsatrap (talk) 19:52, December 18, 2013 (UTC)conner_itsatrap

• I do not agree. We already know that the Alliance is formed by many independent rebel groups. What he said is that the Rebels on Onderon are canonically the earliest representation of the future Rebellion against the Empire. Not that it is the formation of the Alliance. --Le Passant (talk) 20:03, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

Starkiller

The name for the clone should be Starkiller, not Galen Marek. Of course the original Starkiller can still be referred to by that name, but Starkiller is what the clone is called in the game and the novel. Also, in the novel Ni-Ke-Vanz said that a clone is not the same thing as the original, just a different version of the template he was based on. So Galen Marek is technically not the clone's real name as it belonged to the original Starkiller as essentially doesn't have one, except for Marek's codename Starkiller. Even on the Galen Marek (clone) page, he is called Starkiller. JRT2010 21:07, October 29, 2010 (UTC)JRT2010

Error on the page

Under the "Vehicles and Vessels" section X-Wing is listed. This is an error and canonical impossibility for a few reasons:

1. This was the beginning of the Rebellion, before the Fresians gave the X-Wing design to the Rebels. If you notice, their primary Starfighter was the much slower, less maneuverable R-41 Starchaser at the battle above Kamino.

2. I didn't see one the entire game. When Rahm Kota and Starkiller are on approach to the Salvation aboard the rogue shadow, the escort LOOKS like an X-Wing, I know. But it isn't. It's the older, two wing--instead of four--version. The Z-95 Headhunter. It's easy to tell -- only two wings with two top mounted lasers, and undermounted concussion missile launchers as seen in SWG and in many other places.

I feel special that I spotted this. =D But I don't know how to fix it D=

EDIT: Also noticed a fighter in the Salvation's hangar bay -- It looked like an A-Wing, but it's not invented yet so it has to be the R-22 Spearhead.

Canon ending evidence?

What evidence is there that the light side ending is canon? Or are editors simply assuming it's canon because the light side endings usually are? Honesty, the dark side ending seems the more likely canon ending - but even that's an assumption. Unless editors can provide a source (and not their own conclusions) as to which ending is canon, then there should be no declarations on the page that state whether either the light side or the dark side ending was invoked. The Haunted Angel 17:23, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

• You haven't read the novelization or the graphic novel, have you? --Doctor Kermit^(Complain.) 18:50, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
  • Both endings seem non-cannnon to me. In one starkiller survives(we never see him again!) and in the other a clone survives(never see him chopping up rebels either.) 75.169.119.184 03:52, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
    • How do you know you won't see him in a future game? --Doctor Kermit^(Complain.) 04:29, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
      • Because from what I heard the lead producer went to work at another company and the entire development team got fired pre-releasse. 75.169.119.184 01:47, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
        • That doesn't mean that there won't be another game though. Key words are "Star Wars" which means that Lucasfilm gets the final say, not the lead producer or the development team. If Lucas or his company decide to make another game, they'll make another game. - Nx1701g 02:38, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
        • LucasArts does some "house cleaning" after every major release. The TFUII dev team is not the first to be laid off after a game goes gold. SinisterSamurai 17:26, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Downloadable Content

IGN and the Facebook page of TFU2 have an article about upcoming DLC for the 360 and PS3 which kind of like the Hoth one took place instead of Empire Strikes Back, this takes place on Endor instead of Return of The Jedi. I'm not entirely sure how to add a new section to the page, so if I put the link here would someone mind adding it to the article? Link is here [1] D3K 07:37, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

• Was the Imperial shuttle the Dark Apprentice uses to make a bridge in the DLC supposed to be the Tydirium? Darth Nordeck 05:54, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Kaminoans

It's possible I missed it, but where one can actually see a Kaminoan in TFU II? Other species mentioned DO appear in the game, but not the "long-neck kaminoans". If they can't be seen - then "mentioned only" should be added.

And if they can be seen, then where? In holograms (then it should be stated in the list)? In the flesh? Really, where? Neterwan 18:27, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Interceptor Frigate Presence?

The page for the Interceptor class Frigate includes The Force Unleashed II in its list of appearances. However it does not show up in the Vehicles and Vessels list for either game or novel. Anyone know for certain if it appears, and if so where? --Roguestar (talk) 07:11, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

• Its probably a mistake. The ship it's based on, the Action VI, does appear though. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 14:15, December 3, 2013 (UTC)
• Yeah I thought it might be something along those lines but wante to check before changing anything.

--Roguestar (talk) 21:05, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Why Legends?

It was produced by Disney's LucasArts, after the takeover. It's Disney's, not Legends'. It should not be marked Legends. ‎—Unsigned comment by 77.180.91.55 (talk • contribs).

• It was released two years before Disney acquired Lucasfilm (including LucasArts), and four years before the canon split, therefore it is Legends. 01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 20:20, 15 August 2021 (UTC)