Contents 1 Typo 2 Clan Ordo characters - source? 3 Cover art for the book is here. 4 This novel will retcon KotOR II out of canon? 5 Anyone (else) plan to expand the plot? 6 What date would this be assigned as (minor spoilers)? 7 Jedi Exile's death 8 The Threat 9 Date of paperback release

TypoEdit

"They", regarding the Sith Emperor, were typos. Stephen Reid confirms it here: [1]

It will also be corrected when the news article appears again on the TOR website.

Clan Ordo characters - source?Edit

• I saw that there were three characters added to the appearances. Where's the source for these? I searched for them on google and couldn't find a thing. Gratulor 20:30, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
  • Never mind, found it. Gratulor 20:50, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Cover art for the book is here. Edit

I have seen it around the images in Wookieepedia, and to confirm I also looked on the Internet to see if it was real, and it was. Please put it in the description section of the book.

72.68.154.112 02:02, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, someone already did lol.

72.68.154.112 02:04, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

This novel will retcon KotOR II out of canon? Edit

Needless to say, spoilers will ensue, you have been warned, blah blah blah.

Somebody has apparently stumbled upon an uncorrected proof of this novel and has posted a picture of a very interesting passage online. (Unfortunately, Wookieepedia won't allow me to post images from Photobucket and similar image-hosting sites, so I'm working on a way around that.) The passage is from what I assume to be one of the last few chapters in the book, shows that the Jedi Exile's real name is Meetra Surit... and kills the Exile off.

Another thing to note is that Kreia is nowhere to be found in the novel (as far as I've seen), and going by a preview of the novel on The Old Republic's Facebook page, it would seem that Nihilus is retconned to be the Sith Emperor instead. ("Scourge finally understood why Nyriss and the others wanted to take the Emperor down. Destroying your enemies— even destroying a planet— was understandable. But this wasn’t simple destruction. It was annihilation; obliteration. The very fabric of the Force had been shredded. Anyone capable of turning an entire planet into a nihilistic abomination had to be completely mad.")

I do not wish this to become a topic for discussing the merits of the novel in question, but if any of this is to be considered official and canon in any way, this could mean huge changes to the site as it would wipe Knights of the Old Republic II straight out of official Star Wars canon. Hopefully, though, I'm just jumping the gun here, and all will be right when the novel is officially released. // ~mikah~ 20:43, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

This'll have to do for now... The link to the passage can be found in the fourth comment, posted by Slamslate. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/951199-star-wars-the-old-republic/60458101 // ~mikah~ 20:45, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Arg! Please, someone tell me this is a joke! That's probably the real deal though. Dude, you shouldn't have done that. Wait for the novel to come out before posting stuff like this. You've just made a lot of fans mad by making them accidentally reading spoilers for a novel they didn't want spoilers for until they read it. Why dude, why? And no, it neither retconned Nihilus or Kreia. This is supposedly after Kreia is dead, and just because the Emperor has a similar power to Nihilus doesn't mean he is Nihilus. Argh, why did you have to do this?!?--ARC Commander Colt 21:35, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

My first sentence was a spoiler warning... But if it helps, I'll bold it, italicize it, and make it purple so the warning will be more obvious. // ~mikah~ 21:40, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I suppose that's well and good, but it's too late for me. I've been spoiled, and I can't be unspoiled. My point is, I guess, that you posted spoilers for no reason, as this doesn't retcon KOTOR II. And when you click on the (changes) button to see what changes were made to the page, as I did when I read your spoilers, you don't really have time to avert your eyes before the font in the big green box pops out at you. Please, understand that I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed that I was spoiled on a novel that I was hoping to be totally spoiler free from. And it was all for naught, because it doesn't contradict KOTOR II. Okay, point is I'm not mad. End rant.--ARC Commander Colt 21:48, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I am jumping the gun here. Sorry for spoiling it for you (if it makes you feel any better, I had no intention of reading that either), but I suppose I'll just leave this crossed out until clarifications can be made. // ~mikah~ 22:20, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

No biggie, dude.--ARC Commander Colt 23:15, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think I've found the source of my confusion... I was definitely under the impression that this game took place solely between the two KotOR games, going by the infoboxes. It apparently extends past the end of the second game as well but still remains within the same year (3951 BBY), hence why I assumed the game altered the story of The Sith Lords. Definitely kicking myself for jumping to conclusions there. // ~mikah~ 23:43, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, but as Kreia said, "your confusion is natural." It's happened, and it's over with. I'm cool.--ARC Commander Colt 23:53, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Technically, it starts 3,954 (two years after KotoR, three years before KotoR II), and ends in 3,951 (right after KotoR II, the time in between is mostly skipped), with an epilogue taking place at an unstated date greatly in the future (50 years, I believe). User: Barren167. Quote: Darth Caedus: Childhood fan-character ruined. 21:47, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Anyone (else) plan to expand the plot? Edit

Just wondering, does anyone else have the book and plan to expand this yet? I checked it out from the library and just finished reading it, and am capable of expanding the plot to full, but don't plan on doing it if someone else is already in the process.

User: Barren167. Quote: Darth Caedus: Childhood fan-character ruined. 14:48, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

What date would this be assigned as (minor spoilers)? Edit

Specifically, it starts, as listed, between KotoR and KotoR II in the year 3,954 BBY, but about halfway through the book there's a segment of time skipped, and it advances three years to 3,951, after KotoR II. Would that change the listed date, or do we just go with the date that's the starting one and the one listed in the timeline?

User: Barren167. Quote: Darth Caedus: Childhood fan-character ruined. 14:52, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Jedi Exile's death Edit

In the article about Meetra Surik (Jedi Exile) at the beginning, it says she is killed by the Sith Lord she joined forces with and instead of becoming one with the force, she helps Revan with his 300 years of statis.

"Scourge's betrayal on his Jedi allies resulted in him stabbing Surik from behind, killing her instantly—the sacrifice however helped Revan to delay the Emperor and his plans. Surik did not become one with the Force; instead, her spirit stayed with Revan and helped him to endure the horrors of his stasis imprisonment for the next 300 years.

In the following years after her death, the Jedi that she trained during her travels would prove essential to the process of rebuilding the Jedi Order in the wake of its near annihilation at the hands of the Sith. "

Nowhere else in the article is this mentioned, and nowhere in Revans article is this mentioned either. Perhaps it's just because I don't understand wikis too well, but shouldn't there be a reference at the end of that passage if this book says that the exile is killed and Revan goes into stasis? If not, it's extraordinarily confusing. Also, I haven't read the book, so that bit about her being killed and all might be from somewhere else.

Anyway, my point is, shouldn't that have a reference, or does it not matter since it's at the beginning of the article, before the "Contents" box?

Mishathegreat 22:42, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

• It's in the book, yes. It ought to be referenced, yes. And it's likely not mentioned elsewhere in the article because the book does a bit of retconning, namely, setting "official" standards for things like character personalities and who uses what weapon, which means a lot of article changing. As for not being in Revan's article, that's what I'm working on today or so. User: Barren167 ^{Darth Caedus: Childhood fan-character ruined.} 14:42, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Is the book canon? --173.58.131.233 00:30, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

• The policy seems to be that anything not regarded as an "Infinity", or specifically called non-canonical is determined to be canon. In this case, that would mean, yes, this is canon. User: Barren167 ^{Darth Caedus: Childhood fan-character ruined.} 00:40, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

The Threat Edit

The Vong! Well, they do fit the description.--Scarred Warrior

Date of paperback release Edit

• According to this page, the paperback of this is scheduled to be released on September 25th, 2012. Is that accurate? TIEPilot051999 03:14, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

It's Indigo, so probably. But if possible we should probably be using the publisher as a source rather than a retailer. -- DigiFluid 03:17, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

I only ask because the paperback of Decieved is coming out in May, and it seems a little strange to be releasing both in paperback so close together. TIEPilot051999 14:26, January 16, 2012 (UTC)