Talk:Tahl

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Contents 1 Year of death 2 Picture of Tahl? 3 Current Picture 4 Picture really needed! 5 Picture Removed 6 Force ghost 7 Darn Image 8 Modifications 9 Blindness

[edit] Year of death

Thal didNOT die in 52 BBY. The Jedi Apprentice Series did not even begin unti 45/44 BBY! JustinGann 23:25, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

• That's true. I haven't read the whole series, but from what I could gather from the sources I have, the more accurate year of death would be 41 BBY. I'm not 100% sure though, so if someone else knows better, please change it! I also added the appearances I could find, but I think there are at least a couple more in the JA series... --Tinwe 13:27, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

41 BBY is correct;) JustinGann 21:52, 16 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of Tahl?

Is there a picture of Tahl on the cover of Jedi Apprentice: The Call to Vengeance? [1] You can see the picture here, I haven't figured out how to get it to appear in here. :P (Tahl being the person to the far left) So, does anyone know if this is her? And if not, does anyone know where I can find a picture of her? —Unsigned comment by Crazy jedi girl (talk • contribs).

• Umm... actually, that's Mace Windu you're referring to... :) And the character between him and Qui-Gon is young Obi-Wan. As far as I know, there aren't any official pictures of Tahl, which is really a shame. --Tinwe 17:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Mace Windu?!? Heck no! That can't be Mace Windu, it looks nothing like him... Come to think of it, the young Obi-Wan (if that's who he is) looks nothing like Obi-Wan either... I don't know what these artists think they're doing. At least they didn't give Qui-Gon green skin and horns or something, I wouldn't be too surprised. Well, anyway, are there any descriptions of Tahl in the JA books, then? Or any fan art by anybody? Anyway, how do you know it's Mace Windu? —Unsigned comment by 152.38.26.107 (talk • contribs).
    • Well that is Mace Windu, and it looks like Mace Windu. It looks nothing like a woman. --Sauron18 18:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
      • I still don't think it looks too much like Mace Windu. Maybe because the person in question doesn't have a superior, condescending look on their face. Was Mace Windu in that book? And if he was, what part did he play that was major enough to get him a cover pic? (I haven't read any of the JA books but the first two, so I wouldn't know.) *sigh* I'm never going to be able to find a picture of Tahl. Are there any descriptions of her in the JA books? —Unsigned comment by 152.38.26.107 (talk • contribs).
        • For some reason I remember seeing a picture of her, but I'm not sure... --Sauron18 19:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
          • Hmmmm... Was it by any chance on the cover of Jedi Apprentice: The CAll to Vengeance? :P Just kidding. If you remember where please tell us! —Unsigned comment by 152.38.26.107 (talk • contribs).

• So is there a description of her in the JA books? —Unsigned comment by 152.38.26.107 (talk • contribs).
  • Does Tahl have a fansite or anything? —Unsigned comment by 152.38.26.107 (talk • contribs).

• Tahl is described in the Jedi Apprentice books as having dark hair. She has green eyes striped with gold. I believe that it said that she was slim and tall (no pun intended!) and had tan skin, but I'm not positive. I really like Tahl; I even named one of my dogs after her! Try looking up the page about Tahl, or read the pages about the books she was in. I REALLY like the Ties that Bind book, though I haven't read the next book, so I'm sort of left hanging. Anyway, I hope this helps some. Rihanna Jor'dani 19:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC) Jedi Rihanna
  • Thanks, Rihanna! Yeah, that does help, I knew about her eyes, but that's pretty much it. Thanks again! Now I've got something to go on. —Unsigned comment by 71.52.235.26 (talk • contribs).
    • Every picture I've seen of Tahl so far has been made by a fan. And I don't mean to brag or anything, but I'm pretty sure I'd know if there were any official images of her. Anyhow, I've linked a few nice fan arts for you: [2], [3] (though her hair color is wrong in this one) & [4]. I like the last one best, that's pretty much what "my" Tahl looks like. :)

On a kind of related note, would you anons (= anonymous users) please sign your comments? Just add four tildes (like this: ~~~~) after your post and it will produce your IP address and time stamp. It's considered a bit rude here not to sign your comments. Thank you. --Tinwe 13:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know we were supposed to do that. I'll start doing it from now on. And thanks for the fan art links! --152.38.26.107 19:49, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Does it ever actually say anything about the length of Tahl's hair? --71.52.235.26 20:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
    • In Jedi Apprentice: The Death of Hope, it is said that as a Youngling Tahl "looked like a little boy," so I assume she had short hair then. I don't remember anything being said about the adult Tahl's hair length though. --Tinwe 14:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
      • GAH!!! It said that? Where?!? :O Man. I want to read the rest of that! :P I bet she made a pretty boy then... :D Thanks again. Does it ever say anything that implies a hair length, though? Like anything about her having her hair pulled back or something, or anything like that? --152.38.26.107 20:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
• It's said right in the beginning of chapter 19. Unfortunately, I can't give you the page number, since I don't have the actual book but a .txt file... Here's the excerpt (both Qui-Gon and Tahl are eight, so it's 84 BBY):

  He [Qui-Gon] heard the rustle behind him and turned. It was a fellow student, Tahl. She was in his class, but he didn't know her very well. She was slight, smaller than the rest of them. She looked like a little boy, he thought. He did not think of himself as a little boy.

I don't rembember Tahl's hair length being even implied, but it's been a while since I've read the series, so I'm not sure. I'll keep my eyes open though. :) --Tinwe 12:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• Where'd you get the .txt file? ... And thanks for the help! --152.38.26.107 19:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Where did you get the .txt file? --152.38.26.107 20:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Hey, no need to get snappy. I don't check every talk page I've written on regularly, so if you have any "urgent" questions you want me (or other users) to answer, please bring them up on the user talk pages. Here's the link to the site I got the file from, I don't know if it's really appropriate to post it here, but I'm sure an admin will come and slap me on the fingers if they find it inappropriate. :) (On the other hand, Darth Culator has the same link on his use page, and he's an admin...but now I'm just babbling.) --Tinwe 11:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Okay, thank you! (And I wasn't trying to be snappy... sorry if it appeared that way.) —Unsigned comment by Crazy Jedi Girl (talk • contribs).
        • No problem. :) --Tinwe 15:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current Picture

Ummm.. I'm not sure how to say this, but I'm fairly sure that picture isn't of Tahl. Who put it there? DarthChandni 05:53, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

• According to Borsk Fey'lya it's Tahl. I wouldn't know. --Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 06:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I guess it's a logical assumption. The book is about Qui-Gon's and Obi-Wan's search for Tahl who has been kidnapped and seems to be unreachable for the Jedi. The image on the cover is a visual depiction of the plot: Two desperate Jedi on their hopeless search with the shadowy figure of Tahl at the end of a seemingly endless corridor. Also, Tahl is the only female main character in the book. Who else should it be instead of her? There aren`t that many options... Borsk Fey'lya 10:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
    • But why would Tahl be dressed like a Sith? --152.38.26.107 20:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• We can't even tell if whoever that is is female, that could be pretty much anyone. DarthChandni 14:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Um... yeah... someone should fix that. —Unsigned comment by Crazy Jedi Girl (talk • contribs).
    • the problem is, there don't seem to be any canon pictures of tahl. DarthChandni 03:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Well, if that image is indeed noncanon, then why don't we just get rid of it? ... I mean, seriously, we're sitting here debating about whether or not Tahl would walk around dressed in a Sithy-looking black cloak when she's supposed to be a prisoner. I'm sorry, this just seems a bit silly. Wouldn't it be better to have no picture than to have one that isn't even her? --152.38.26.107 22:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
        • The image itself is definitely canon, but the problem is that we don't know whom it depicts. Borsk Fey'lya's reasoning sounds logical enough, even though I agree with DarthChandni that you can't really say if the figure is female or not. As long as we don't know for sure it's Tahl, I too think that the picture should be taken off. --Tinwe 12:02, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
          • ...Yeah, what you said. --Crazy Jedi Girl 14:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

...I always assumed that that was Balog (the dude who kidnapped her... that was Balog, right?)... since whoever it is is so evil looking. Emthejedichick 01:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture really needed!

Ok fellow jedi, i know that this subject has been brought up here before but, WE REALLY NEED A BETTER PICURE! I mean, she looks like the Grim Reaper. Can't anyone find a better picture? Macewindu 23:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

• A canonical image of Tahl simply doesn't exist (besides the current one, which might not even be her). That's the problem. --Tinwe 17:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture Removed

Okay, that picture isn't of Tahl. I've removed it. If anyone comes up with proof it is her, they can put it back in. DarthChandni 22:15, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

• It has actually been removed a few times before, but Borsk seems to be pretty insistent on keeping it there, solid proof or not. Oh well. --Tinwe 17:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry, I didn't know there's a dispute going on about the image. I just found it plausible that this is Tahl. It fits the plot, it fits her descripton and there is no other (female) character in the book this image could possibly represent. There are no actual proofs, that's right. So if you think it's wrong to keep it, remove it. But not without telling me who else it might be. ;) - Borsk Fey'lya 18:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
    • It fits her description? All I see is a black cloaked figure. You can't see the face. You can't tell the gender or species. What description does it fit? And you can't even tell that it's female. People have speculated it might be Balog. I haven't read the book recently, so I'm not sure if Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan ever encountered Balog in the hallways or not. But as I've said already, and correct me if I'm wrong, but at this point in the story Tahl had been drugged and couldn't even walk. So how she would have turned up in the hallway, I cannot explain - which is why the evidence is overwhelming that it isn't her. I'm going to remove it... again... and if it gets put back, I'll assume you haven't read this and I'll contact you via your own user talk page. If you do read this, then please don't put the picture back again! Or if you have an objection to my reasons, then come to my talk page and tell me. I want to get this dispute settled one way or another. --Crazy Jedi Girl 23:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Force ghost

Does Tahl become a Force ghost after she dies? I know Qui-Gon hears her voice but could she be a Force ghost? --131.217.6.6 02:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

• It says in the article that it's possible. Not necessarily that she became a Force ghost, but that she might have studied that stuff with Qui-Gon and learned how to become a creepy disembodied voice. :) --76.5.168.212 22:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait wait... I'm confused. Did Qui-Gon learn how to become a Force-ghost when he's ALIVE? I thought he learned it after he was dead... o.0 Emthejedichick 01:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Darn Image

All right, I don't know who keeps reinserting that image, but I'm telling you, it is not Tahl! Granted, we can't technically tell that it is or isn't her, but as I and others have said before, it doesn't make sense for her to be walking around in a black cloak when she was A.) being held prisoner and B.) too weak to walk around anyway, if I remember correctly. Please stop putting it back! --Crazy Jedi Girl 17:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• Who else could it be, though? (I'm not familiar with the material so I wouldn't have a clue.) There's such thing as artistic license, so it could easily be her despite the reasons you've listed above. -- AdmirableAckbar ^(Talk) 18:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I don't know; I haven't read the book in a while. Maybe I should, just to clear this up. Could it be Balog? And even with artistic license... I know this has been said before, but just as we can't really prove it isn't her, neither can anyone prove it is her, so it borders on fanon to assume that it is and have it in there anyway. --Crazy Jedi Girl 16:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Modifications

I added some new information and made a little clean up of the article. As there isn't much controversy about the article I did the deed first and write here after. Hope that's OK to everybody, if not tell me so. - KDST 13:47, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you thank you thank you for making those modifications! It has a lot more information now and it looks great. I was going to do it myself, but did'nt get a chance, so thank you!--Tahlismyhero 21:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)tahlismyhero

You're welcome! KDST 22:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blindness

When it says she was blinded by in prison on Melinda Daan, wasn't she blinded by a blow from a lightsaber? I don't know if I should add that, and I'm not completely sure it is correct. tahlismyhero 01:06, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

There is no information about that. In the book says: "Tahl's memory of how she got her injuries was gone. She remembered being caught in the middle of a battle, but she could not remember being wounded or blinded". Therefore assuming it was a lightsaber blow would be a bit of a stretch. KDST 05:35, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay thank you. I don't know where I got that assumption.tahlismyhero 21:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

• Probably from the article, as that's what it claimed until a minute ago. It's corrected now. --Tinwe 12:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC)