Contents 1 Episode III 2 IV 3 Mos Eisley 4 Droids as crewmembers 5 Outrunning a Star Destroyer 6 And Speaking of Star Destroyers... 7 Infobox Image 8 External Links 9 More Controversy 10 The Clone Wars episode Supply Lines 11 No longer CR70? 12 Image title thing 13 Modifications for Endor

Episode IIIEdit

205.188.117.74 says that this isn't the ship seen in Episode III, claiming that a "CR80" rather than a CR90 Corellian Corvette was seen in that episode. Meanwhile, the databank lists Ep. III in its appearances, but doesn't mention it in the text. Er, what? — Silly Dan 02:48, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)

• Just some idiot anon; it would be completely pointless for George to put the droids and a ship that has the same class as the ship seen in Episode IV, but isn't actually the same one. I'll revert it. --MarcK [talk] 02:55, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • Wow, even after GL clearly states that it was the Tantive IV (something we already knew before that), some idiot has to screw things up. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 13:07, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)

• I was wondering if it would be a good idea to include a picture of it from RotS, too, as there are some visual differences between it and the ANH one.
  • Yeah, I think one should be included as well. Adamwankenobi 19:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
    • I put in the quote by Rob Coleman in the BTS section, as well as a link that goes through the differences. It's not meant to be the same ship. VT-16 15:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey VT. In fact it is meant to be the same ship. See my info below. (Oblagon 18:03, 21 April 2006 (UTC))

• • • • So basically, the "peacetime" version is completely different in structure? Great. VT-16 22:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, hardly "completely different in structure." Very visibly the same, actually. The only differences are wear-and-tear plus added gun turrets. Loss of "sleekness." And color. (Oblagon 05:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC))

• I agree, it is the same ship. The "sleekness" is because of better CGI technology, and the color is probably because red is the Rebel Alliance's color. And I think that a ROTS picture should be added, maybe even as the main picture, because it looks better than the ANH one (again, the technology). All of these pictures are dark and blurry.

• Pretty sure that the Sundered Heart matches up with the Corellian Corvette schematics shown in the Essential Guide, while the Tantive IV clearly does not. Yes, this is evident from the films.

12seraph 00:40, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

• • The Star of Alderaan, later the Tantive IV, was a CR70 from CEC. Some time after the Clone Wars, Bail had it retrofitted with the CEC-made upgrade "Vanguard c20" which boosted the length, weapons, armor, and sensor capacity. This is from the latest issue (90) of Star Wars Insider. SWVRoma 05:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Let us get this straight. It does not matter if you think it is the same ship. It is now completely accepted canon that the ROTS ship is SUNDERED HEART, a CR90 Corvette, while the AHS ship is the TANTIVE IV, a CR70. Both ships are completely different, although the CR70 is an evolution of the CR90, that is why the layout of the ships, hallways, and other things look the same. However, if one looks at a birds eye view of both ships, it is clear that the CR90 is considerably shorter than the CR70. They are not the same ship in Episodes 3 and 4.--Master Tej 07:43, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
      • Please take into consideration that you are answering a comment that was made before the retcon was made. There is no need for argument in such a case. Please take notice of the timestamp when replying to comments. Gethralkin^Hyperwave 17:47, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

IVEdit

• is it just a coincidence that TantiveIV is in episode IV
  • yea most likely...

• the databank on starwars.com has it listed as appearing in ep VI as well as III and IV, any take on that?
  • It lists Episode VI because several ships of the same the class show up in the Battle of Endor. 68.47.234.131 19:56, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

In fact, take a look at the screenshot used here on the site. It shows the Tantive coming out of hyperspace. This image is borrowed from StarWars.com, and if you examine the details, you'll notice the front section of the ship is very different than the "normal" Tantive IV. It's got an extensively modified "windshield." This is the Tantive as she appeared in Jedi. Thus, we get the clean blue-white Alderaan version in Sith, the grungy gun-barnacled rebel cruiser in Hope, and a further modified rebel version in Jedi. (Oblagon 08:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC))

• You're right... and that pic on the front page needs to be changed, since it's definitely not the Tantive IV. Cutch 03:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I've uploaded this picture of the Tantive IV as seen in Episode III. I agree that this should probably be used as the main header image. Smeagol 23:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

• • So, it seems the ship in RotJ is not the Tantive IV then, just a refitted ship of the same class. After all, the Tantive IV is destroyed/captured at the beginning of ANH. Smeagol 22:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, the new picture of the Tantive form ANH beter than the Ep 3 one I put up. Though I might see if I can fix the odd green cast. Smeagol 02:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Mos Eisley Edit

Didn't Tantive IV crash in Mos Eisley? I thought i saw the remains of Tantive IV in Mos Eisley in Star Wars Battlefront and in a scene of the movie.

No. You probably saw the Dowager Queen.--Darth Oblivion 17:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Droids as crewmembers Edit

• I've added the known droids that served aboard the ship. I'm not sure if you would technically include them as crewmembers, where I've placed them, but I feel they need to be mentioned somewhere. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Outrunning a Star Destroyer Edit

• So what good is a "blockade runner" corvette if it can't outrun a Star Destroyer?

Is there a canon explanation for that?

• • I'm going to try and answer your question...very simply, no, the CR90 could not outrun an Imp I-class in a race to the finish. Both have sublight speeds of 60 MGLT. It would be a dead heat. But in terms of running a blockade, that's different, if you consider a situation similar to the Battle of Hoth, in which escaping ships are simply trying to bypass a line of stationary ships facing them head on. Given the CR90's speed, it would likely be quite effective running a blockade, considering the time it would take larger, slower capital ships to turn around and give chase. Now, why didn't the Tantive outrun the Devastator? If you do some research, you will find that the Tantive did outrun the Devastator from Toprawa and (I believe) Ralltiir (pun always intended), before being chased to Tatooine. What you don't see in the movie is that the Devastator exits hyperspace immediately after the Tantive did, pretty much coming out right on top of her. The Tantive couldn't escape the Star Destroyer's firepower and, as previously stated, simply could not outrun it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

The reason Tantive does'nt outrun Devastator is because of the tractor beam. Darth Oompa Loompa 12:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

And Speaking of Star Destroyers...Edit

According to the radio dramas (and I know the BTS for the Immortal mentions the X-Wing game developers' ignorance of existing canon), the ship that interrupts Operation Skyhook is the Devestator. The article currently makes it sound as if the Immortal was the only ship in orbit around Toprawa, and that the Tantive IV ran afoul of the Devastator between there and Tatooine. The radio drama indicates that the Devastator was the ship that caught them at Toprawa, and followed their trajectory to Tatooine. Now, Captain Antilles can be heard saying that "there are three Imperial battlewagons in close orbit around the planet," so I'm going to change the entry to say that both ships were present at Toprawa, but that the Devastator was the one that followed them to Tatooine. Cozmo 21:45, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Infobox ImageEdit

File:Tantive IV - model.jpg

Can I change it to a better one please? One from ROTS may be Mauser 11:13, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

• Like that one for example? Mauser 22:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
  • I think showing it's appearance as a CR90, as seen in A New Hope, is better. jSarek 23:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Yep, jSarek's right. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 23:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
      • OK, then put a screenshot from Ep IV in. It's just bothers me that the current photo of the original model doesn't look realictic at all from that angle. For example the one on the left is also a photo of the model on the black background, but it looks far better. Mauser 00:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Better how? It's just a different angle of the exact same model. Plus, the current image shows the entire ship in profile, slightly angled, which is much better than a head-on shot that doesn't really illustrate the dimensions and design of the ship. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 00:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

External Links Edit

They're all dead... do we delete them, try to fix them, or find new ones -JimmytheJ 20:44, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

More Controversy Edit

Ryder Windham's Star Wars Blueprints: Rebel Edition shows a screen-shot of the Corvette in Revenge of the Sith, along with text that states "Bail Organa used the CR70 Sundered Heart, which was in dry dock at the end of the Clone Wars, when he adopted an infant girl named Leia and brought her to Alderaan.

3 pages later, it shows an image of the CR70 Sundered Heart (from Episode III) next to a CR90 (from Episode IV) for comparison, to show that the CR70 has a completely different layout than a CR90.

Also, the databank doesn't say that the Tantive IV appeared in Episode III, just that a "Rebel Blockade Runner" does.

I know that this probably goes against Lucas' vague quote, and it certainly goes against the look of the Sundered Heart in the video games which it appears in... but it makes a lot more sense than the idea of the ship in Episode III being the exact same unique ship that's in Episode IV, and this information is more current.

• It was upgraded from a CR70 to a CR90, in between Episode III and Episode IV. And please sign your comments, cheers VadersFist666 00:49, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
  • Please see the source that I provided on the page for Sundered Heart, it is official. All appearances of the Corellian Corvette in ROTS is the Sundered Heart. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith ^{-Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!-} 19:43, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
    • I hope the authors asked Lucas about this, and they won't use a mixed, half-refitted version in the live-action series. Darth Morrt 11:20, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
      • Wait, wait, wait. I was under the impression that the two ships were completely different, not one being the upgraded version of the other, User:VadersFist666. If you've seen the Complete Blueprints book, it states the two as being completely different: one is also somewhat longer than the other one. It would be, well, impossible to transform Sundered Heart to the Tantive IV without completely taking it apart, because of the length differences.--Master Tej 21:09, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
        • Please restrict your comments to discussions concerning the improvement of the article and not go into speculation about future Lucas projects. Gethralkin^Hyperwave 05:17, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
          • This is not "speculation about future Lucas projects", we are merely trying to make sure everyone understands that these are not the same two ships, which very much relates to the article on hand.--Master Tej 07:37, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
            • "I hope the authors asked Lucas about this, and they won't use a mixed, half-refitted version in the live-action series" is a comment that involves speculation and does nothing to enhance the article this talk page is referencing. "It would be, well, impossible to transform Sundered Heart to the Tantive IV without completely taking it apart, because of the length differences" is also speculation regarding transforming one ship into another. Regardless of how or why the change has been made, the RotS corvette is no longer the Tantive IV, but is the Sundered Heart. All that needs to be understood is that Leland Chee approved the retcon and that should be the end of it. Trying to reason how such a change could take place in-universe is still speculation. If there is more information from Lucas Licensing on the matter it will be added to the article either in the body or the Bts. Gethralkin^Hyperwave 17:53, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

The Clone Wars episode Supply Lines Edit

Is that the Tantive IV that Bail Organa uses in the 3rd episode of The Clone Wars Season 3? 82.33.117.158 13:45, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, it is confirmed in the episode guide. Now, we know why they retconned in the Blueprints not to be the same as the EP3 ship. Darth Morrt 14:15, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

• And yet, several sources have confirmed the ROTS ship to NOT be the same as the Tantive IV. So does that mean that the Clone Wars ship is the Tantive IV or Sundered Heart?--Master Tej 21:01, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
  • The ship from TCW is the Tantive IV. Sundered Heart was merely a ship that happened to be available when Tantive IV was not at the time. Gethralkin^Hyperwave 18:00, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

No longer CR70? Edit

The latest retcon cut the Tantive IV from the ROTS, but does that mean that the backstory of being a CR70 corvette is also gone? Does anyone know with source stated it earlier that it was CR70? Darth Morrt 21:20, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

• It is true that the Tantive IV was cut from ROTS, and the ship shown there was an earlier generation Corvette, a CR90. However, I am unaware which source first stated that it was a CR70 in ROTS, although it may have been good old George. You should check the article if you haven't already.--Master Tej 21:04, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Image title thing Edit

This image's title should be Sundered_Heart_CR70, since the retcon and all that. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071213142414/starwars/images/a/af/TantiveIV_CR70.jpg Near-sighted Jedi 12:07, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Modifications for Endor Edit

Screenshots from Jedi show that the CR90's secondary laser cannons (as seen on the Tantive IV) were changed by the time of the Battle of Endor. Could we include this?

12seraph 00:46, November 16, 2011 (UTC)