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Date Process Result
July 21, 2008 Good article nomination Failure
August 22, 2008 Failed good article nominee
Current status: Failed good article nominee

Female TogrutasEdit

Why are all Togruta female? Are they the new Twi'lek? Lonnyd 11:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Not all known Togruta are female. Thunderstar 06:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Codi Ty is the only known male Togruta...Very strange...--1upD 17:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
      • We know hundreds of Twi'leks but only eight Togruta so the probability for only one male isn't so small, actually —Gurbiza 19:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
        • maybe female Togrutas have a higher chance of force sensitivity and so the only Togrutas we know (other than Codi Ty) are in the jedi order so they're female. AdmirableAckbar 19:58, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
          • Are they all force sensitive?Meesa yoda 19:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
            • Well in Codi Ty's profile it says that Codi Ty is a female, what gender is he?! Also it looks like Codi Ty has four headtails (just like Raana Tey) is this a mistake or is there different types of Togruta? (similar to Orn Free Ta versus the rest of the Twi'lek species). Greekpimp 02:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
              • Could the togruta on the cover of Star Wars Legacy 26 be the first male Togruta??? Greekpimp 23:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
                • Not the first male, (Codi) but i saw a page called "Hidden Temple Jedi" and it says "male Togruta". JediNTT307 19:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
                  • The New Essential Guide to Aliens mentions the fact that many Togruta Jedi are female. BTW, how do we know that the one on the Legacy cover is a male? Xzylongann 18:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
                    • Umm if that "Hidden Temple Jedi" is a female, then she has a very muscualr/manly face. Greekpimp 07:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Number of Headtails?Edit

I know that the article states that Togruta have three headtails (two in the front, one in the back), but Raana Tey of the Knights of the Old Republic comic series has four(two in the front, two in the back.) Is this just some sort of genetic mutation, or could it be that Togruta could have a varying number of headtails? Should this be mentioned in the article?Astrid 02:15, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

near-Twi'lek?Edit

Is there any source that either confirms or denies whether Togruta are related to Twi'lek? --86.135.182.151 16:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

NominationEdit

Okay, as of yet, I'm not good at sourcing, though I'm willing to do quite a bit to get this article to at least good status. I tried to give it a flow, but I know it still needs some work (a few bites of info are repetitive). Xzylongann 18:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Facial MarkingsEdit

This has been bugging me since i first saw it. Every Togruta character has white circles around their eyes (even abstract circles like Raana Tey) with some kind of red pattern above the eyes. All but Ahsoka Tano. I thought that when they said the markings had to do with the caln, that it meant the red markings in the circles. To me she just doesnt look like a Togruta. Any guesses as to why she looks different? Greekpimp 07:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

  • It's probably an example of genetic diversity. After all, humans don't all have the same features. Why should aliens be any different?--The All-knowing Sith'ari 13:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
  • The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia says TATTOOS ARE A PART OF TOGRUTA CULTURE and points to Ahsoka's face stripes. Maybe she's a subspecies or something? --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 15:57, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
    • They are not tattoos. That TCW character guide contradicted a lot of canon. It would be best if we wait until another source clarifies it. JangFett (Talk) 21:59, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Clone WarsEdit

Well in a preview[1] for Star Wars: The Clone Wars #1 you can assume it is set on Shili. There are finally some male Togrutas seen. But I coulnd't help but notice a few "mistakes." For instance, all the Togrutas have normal eyes, but Shaak Ti (the original Togruta) has black marble eyes. Also a mother is holding a young Togruta, but the child's head tails are full grown. Then in the next page you see Ahsoka with immature head-tails. Its pretty confusing. Greekpimp 22:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

  • All the content from the comic version of Slaves of The Republic should be removed, as it is now non-canon (The Clone Wars tV show overrides it). This will fix a lot of problems. --Ahsokanerd (talk) 15:52, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • And once again, just that preview shit all over established canon. Togruta's peaceful? Where's the tribal race that hunted it's own prey? Been there for centuries? Try thousands of years considering Raana Tey is from the same planet. -_- --RedemptionRedemptionusersymbol(Talk) 22:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Actually, the planet is Kiros according to the publisher summary for the next issue. -- I need a name (Complain here) 22:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
      • I was going to toss up the possibility of the planet not being Shili, because of the phrase "When my people colonized". You don't colonize your homeworld, and, since Shili is describedd as the Togrutan homeworld, it couldn't be Togruta. Furthermore, the "we dreamed of a peaceful community" pretty much states that the colonized planet was colonized by peace-loving Togruta - there would've had to of been at least a few. As INAN said, though, it's pretty much a moot discussion, since it's Kiros, not Shili anyway. The eyes have been a problem for quite some time, since Ahsoka's the same way - no explanation has been given as of yet. As for the head tails... artistic license? I say because nothing else makes sense, or explains it, unless Ahsoka's got some sort of defect which stopped her head tails from growing completely. Who knows. *shrugs* JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 23:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Well that makes alot more sense (the part about it not being Shili), but in the description for TCW 2 it says "native Togruta". Ya, I guess I just need to accept it or whatever. But I just cant get over the fact that no one can draw Montrals correctly, that leader guy looks too lumpy.Greekpimp 02:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
          • "Draw correctly"? Have you seen what Scott Hepburn has done with Zayne and Celeste in Scott Hepburn? It's just his horrible style, nothing more. Mauser 10:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
            • Ya I guess. Greekpimp 23:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
              • On a slitly related note, is there any direct dialog in the novels about that rumor that Togrutas were venomous? Drsdino 20:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
                • I don't think any of the novels I have read mention that fact, though one of the card games directly states that on Shaak Ti's card. I think that entire paragraph is based on information from The New Essential Guide to Alien Species. Xzylongann 01:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

The article states that Shaak Ti was the most well-known Togruta Jedi during the Clone Wars. I disagree, Shaak Ti, in content produced by Lucasfilm, simply directs the training of clones on Kamino. Ahsoka Tano on the other hand is much more active, as she is/was the padawan of Anakin Skywalker. --Ahsokanerd (talk) 15:52, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

  • You seem to forget that, at the time, Shaak Ti was a respected Jedi Master and a member of the Jedi High Council. While Ahsoka had her share of heroic adventures, she was just a small fry compared to the veteran Shaak Ti. --LelalMekha (talk) 16:00, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
    • No, I didn't forget that. But the article was referring to "well-know" Togruta, not rank. Ahsoka was on the holonet at least weekly, due to her and her master's heroics in battle. Shaak-Ti, as I mentioned, was at a training facility.

Male Togrutas Edit

Do male Togrutas even exist? From what I what I can see, there have only been female Togruta in the Star Wars canon, but not male ones. Unsigned comment by 173.79.188.209 (talk • contribs).

  • Yes, they do. See Roshti, a male Togruta. Please remember to sign your posts using four tildes like this ~~~~ :-). Grunny (Talk) 04:14, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, they do! What a question! If there are not two opposite genders, how could a species survive honestly!--69.88.211.46 22:24, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Togruta Society Edit

"Togrutas banded together in dense tribes and relied on their natural pigmentation to disrupt and confuse the slow-witted beasts. Togrutas worked well in large groups, and individualism was seen as abnormal within their culture, although it was also a necessary quality in leaders."

This seems to me to be basic hunter-gatherer behavior and typical of any real-world culture. It does not strike me as being a disciminating factor in seperating Togruta behavior from that of any other in universe culture. Nor does it strike me as being sufficient evidence to support "individualism was seen as abnormal within their culture".

I think this section needs a re-write or deletion.

(New to this wiki stuff, so while I think I am following protocol, I apologize if this is out of line) --CyberMurph 08:01, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, what's with the "leaving those who can't keep up to fend for themselves and that being nature's way? What a great way to make people hate Ahsoka, Shaak Ti, and Ashla. Is that really true or fanon? It sounds like an idea the Sith would like to hold, not a society that contributes many selfless Jedi.Unsigned comment by Ahsoka Skywalker (talk • contribs).

Akul-tooth headdress? Edit

I find it unclear as to which Togruta are wearing these and which aren't. Are there any images with adults that don't look fairly similar to either Shaak Ti or Ahsoka? There seems to be some confusion as to whether some part/all of the headtails/montral are a constant, and which of the species are wearing the headdress (which can't be that much of an accomplishment if everyone has one...), I figured it could just be the assumption of the artist at the time like with the Kel Dor breathing masks in the Baron Do Sage picture despite being on Dorin. --TheImpossibleCavendish 20:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The headdresses are the gold triangles framing their faces.--The Great and Grand Count Mall! 02:19, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Man, would you at least LOOK AT THE FRICKIN ARTICLE BEFORE YOU RESPOND! Just look at it... 69.88.211.46 22:21, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Skeletal structureEdit

File:Dar'nala fried.jpg this is an interesting image. It shows part of the skeletal structure of Dar'nala, a Togruta. Maybe if the article gets a bit longer, we'll find somewhere to fit this in. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 21:46, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

It looks just like a human skelaten but with horns protruding out of her head, in short I don't really see the point of expanding on this subject. Drsdino 23:18, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

  • That's strange, because NEGAS states that montrals were hollow. ShaakTi1138 18:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
  • The skeletal strutue of the horns, or Montrals, dosnt show they are hollow or not. The bones of birds and some animal's horns are hollow yet they look perfectly normal. If the article does get longer then this would be great to put in.

Skin color Edit

The officially released The Old Republic avatars (see: SW:TOR wiki) show more variety in Togruta coloring than seen before. Since it's licensed game promotional materials, is it canon? Or should we wait until they're actually shown in-game? Ausir(talk) 21:27, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

  • Until they're actually shown in-game, then it would be proper to add the new colors within the infobox. JangFett (Talk) 21:51, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • So far we have at least one official character (Ashara Zavros) with different skin color, so I added "yellow". --94.255.227.210 10:59, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

There are also ones with purple skin in the SWTOR game. Ashara can also be customized to have a purple face. 8.26.243.94 06:11, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

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