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Merge the two partsEdit

this episode is divided in two parts, but we should merge them as one episode just like spark of the rebellion which is divided in 2 parts. --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 02:15, March 24, 2016 (UTC)

  • It'd be best to ask someone at Lucasfilm or Disney XD before merging them. Perhaps Tracy Cannobbio would know if they're two episodes or one? Cevan IMPpress (talk) 02:26, March 24, 2016 (UTC)
    • Since the teaser of Anakin/Vader and Ahsoka released it says at the end One-hour special, so i think that is a official confirmation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJTF77uy0iQ --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 02:44, March 24, 2016 (UTC)
      • I asked Tracy about this and she said it's just two episodes played back to back rather than one large episode, so we can keep the pages separated. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 13:50, March 24, 2016 (UTC)
        • Eh, they say the same thing about Spark of Rebellion and Siege of Lothal sometimes. Rebels Recon referred to it just as "Twilight of the Apprentice," and it's very likely there will just be one Episode Guide. Even if we don't move it now, odds are this time next week it will be one page. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 14:22, March 24, 2016 (UTC)
          • Hmm, good point. Like you said, both Andi and the clip in Rebels Recon referred to it as one episode, "Twilight of the Apprentice." There's also the fact that the episode guides for Spark of Rebellion and The Siege of Lothal were kept together as one guide rather than two each, despite some later showings of the two airing them as individual "episodes." Personally, I'm all in favor of merging the two pages. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 14:36, March 24, 2016 (UTC)
            • Yes, officialy the 1 hour movies are 2 episodes but they merge them to make the 1 hour specials, this is the same example referred everywhere as Twilught of the Apprentice as 1 hour special, we´re seeing the same thing with this special--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 17:47, March 24, 2016 (UTC)
              • The Entertainment Weekly article that came out a little earlier today also referred to it as one episode rather than two. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 18:06, March 24, 2016 (UTC)

walks back inEdit

re this claim:

Tano walks back into the temple

I never noticed this at all. It seems like a subtle detail possibly missed on many people's first watch. Could we possibly get an animated GIF showing this for analysis until it jumps out? I know a site for creating those if anyone could link a movie clip on YT or something. I'm not sure if an unmoving pic could get this across. talk2ty 09:23, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

I noticed someone linked this in YT comments:
Would need to be renamed but it seems to serve the desired purpose. Any objections to uploading it? Haven't checked if it's under the 10MB file size though, is pretty high-def. talk2ty 10:00, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

owl and walkerEdit

I have heard some speculation that the Ahsoka we see could've been a force ghost and that she died. I can't say I agree either way. Since either is possible, instead of saying for sure she lived we should probably just say we see her, but not the state that she is in, right?

Should we comment on the owl? In this vid's comments Joao mentions

I think it's symbolic. As we see Vader limping away, battered and bruised, there is a owl quietly watching. It comes from Shakespeare:
"In Renaissance England the hoot of an owl flying over one's house was an evil omen, and meant impending death for someone inside. Shakespeare refers to the owl as the "fatal bellman" because it was the bellman's job to ring the parish bell when a person in the town was near death. "This was called the "passing bell," and was a signal for all hearers to pray for the dying person. After the death, there would be one short peal [chime]; from its sound the hearers could tell whether the deceased was male or female"
Then the owl goes into the fog and suddenly we see 'Ahsoka' walking deep into the Sith Temple, into the shadows. 'Beyond the veil'.

Possibly reeading too much into it, but there IS that creepy owl... I don't really get how a peal count tell if male or female but this makes me want to nickname the owl-like alien the "fatal bellman" unless we know some other name for it.

Does anyone recall the name of this species from an earlier episode or something? talk2ty 09:41, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Well Filoni has addressed some of these points in various interviews and even at Star Wars Celebration. Firstly, the name of the owl is a convor and it seems to appear in episodes largely focused on Ahsoka, with its most notable appearance being in the Padawan Lost arc in season 4 (?) of The Clone Wars. He also drew a few sketches for Topps showing what happens after the temple explodes at the end of Twilight. She's seen following the convor deeper into the temple.
On the part about her being a force ghost, he stated in a Q&A during Celebration that he doesn't think she knows how to become a force ghost as of yet. Therefore, whatever symbolism or representation of her he's trying to depict, it's definitely not one as a force ghost. --TheAnchorite (talk) 14:01, July 21, 2016 (UTC)


Query Edit

Hey, I just have a thought: If "Steps Into Shadow" can be considered a TV-movie, couldn't the same be considered for "Twilight of the Apprentice"? With this in consideration, the page could be called "Star Wars Rebels: Twilight of the Apprentice" and have its own link in the Star Wars Rebels navbox? I know this isn't really a big deal, but it was just a thought. Thanks. SW-1313 (talk) 10:53, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

  • I believe only the season premieres count as TV movies --Lewisr (talk) 11:02, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
    • Yeah, that sounds fair enough, its just that "Steps Into Shadow" and "Twilight of the Apprentice" were practically aired in the same fashion. SW-1313 (talk) 11:08, September 27, 2016 (UTC)