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"A sun" or "the sun", there still was a star the planet orbited in the film (and in the novelization). The article is clearly about something which appeared in the film and shouldn't be deleted. If here's a source saying the planet was moved from a different orbit, that belongs in the article as well. --Janustheanus (talk) 17:46, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

  • And, you know.................. Zonama Sekot's sun.... --Janustheanus (talk) 17:48, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
    • The page then needs to be totally rewritten. As it stands, it is inaccurate and claims to be the main sun of Starkiller Base, with speculative names like "Starkiller Base system" that shouldn't be used for a base that was mobile. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 17:49, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
      • It's still orbiting a star, in a system. Are you saying the names are not speculative enough? Like, "Starkiler Base current system" or "Starkiller Base system #2" or something? --Janustheanus (talk) 17:53, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
        • Were there planets? Was it a rogue star? We don't know—so to ascribe a system to it at this point is speculative. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 17:58, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
          • This is the star article. It was orbiting a star in the film. So this article shouldn't be deleted. The ice planet was orbiting a star, which by itself constitutes a star system, literally. But if you want, you can delete the "system" part and add whatever source says it changed its orbit (I have the film, the novel, the Visual Dictionary and the Technical Guide, it's not in 1 ofthem). I don't have the source so I cant put that in, but the article is fully 100% correct going by the sources that I do have. --Janustheanus (talk) 18:03, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
            • I already revised the article and removed the deletion tag. And the film makes it pretty clear that the base has to move. The weapon drained a sun and destroyed the Hosnian system. Suns don't repower, so it had to move. And if you look on the map in the Visual Dictionary, it establishes "Starkiller Base Origin Point," as in where it started and then it ended up moving. Just because the Starkiller moved near another star doesn't mean that there's automatically a star system around that sun. Some stars don't have planets or any notable orbits. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 18:07, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
              • If anything orbits a star (and we're talking about a planet here), there's a system. That's how it works. There's a star? Check. There's a planet? Check. Then there is a system period. And there's nowhere in the film where the planet moves. That is speculation going by the film. We don't see it move. If there's another source fine but its not in the film, andf its not in the other sources I mentioned. --Janustheanus (talk) 18:11, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
                • BTW who told you suns dont repower? Depends on how big they are, how much mass they have lost, how much of the atoms in their core they have already fused, etc. --Janustheanus (talk) 18:13, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
            • I got the Visual Dict. book right here. Map says nothing about an"Origin Point". Go to page 8. Nothing of the sort. Nothing on pges 68-69, so where exactly did you see that the planet was mobile anyway?--Janustheanus (talk) 18:25, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
              • This will be my last comment here since we're going in circles. Here is the map as it was released by Lucasfilm in EMPIRE magazine. Here is a corresponding article. Here is Pablo Hidalgo of the Lucasfilm Story Group from a bunch of FAQs he answered, explaining that the base moved and another where he said it had already eaten a star (to destroy the Republic) and moved on. I'll add some of those sources too so it's extra clear. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 18:30, December 31, 2015 (UTC)
                • Yeah, go buy the book so you can check it yourself. That map is not the way it was published in the link you sent. In the book, it doesn't say origin point which means they changed it before printing. It just says "Starkiller Base". But if it's on Twitter then I guess I need to shut up of course. --Janustheanus (talk) 18:33, December 31, 2015 (UTC)