I believe that we should warn readers never to trust the numbers in West End Games.Edit
Let us face it, the numbers in West End Games are just unreliable. I have a new paragraph we might want to add:
West End Games is notorious for just making up numbers rather than bothering to make a simple phonecall to Lucasfilm Ltd. for checking the canonical numbers. One should never accept its numbers at facevalue. The in-universe explanation used when one of its numbers is accidently quoted is that since the Rebel Alliance won the Galactic Civil War, the numbers accidently quoted are partially misinformed, partially propagandized information from the New Republic. This in-universe explanation works well because West End Games almost always underestimates the scale of Imperial things, e.g. small Executor-Class, nearly deserted Death Stars, et cetera.—— Ŭalabio‽ 03:18, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- That paragraph is too harshly anti-WEG -- especially since some of their numbers aren't that unreasonable, and were the best available at the time. (I doubt Wizards of the Coast or anyone else that puts numbers in their spinoff material are going to be 100% reliable either.) Also, that "oh, they're writing pro-Rebel propaganda, that's why they're unreliable" always struck me as a silly idea. It's various West End writers that got things confused, not Voren Na'al. How about:
- Although their material in Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game was either the only or the most easily available technical descriptions of many things in the Star Wars universe, many fans consider West End Games sourcebooks unreliable sources. In many cases, their material disagrees with numbers derivable from the films, used in production by model-makers, or mentioned in other licensed material. Some of their work has been corrected by later licensed material (for example, the size of the Executor).
I seem to recall reading an interview conducted with Timothy Zahn in which he explained that the reason why the years in his Heir to the Empire trilogy given for the time of the Katana Fleet and the Clone Wars do not match up with the prequels is because he repeatedly asked the people at LucasFilm/LucasLicensing for at least the basic dates around which the Clone Wars roughly begins/takes place which they were unable/unwilling to give - until he was some way into the 2nd book that was. Which is why the years given are something like 15 or so years off that of the prequels. So in light of this little anecdote, it may not have simply been a case of “just making up numbers rather than bothering to make a simple phonecall” -LamontCranston 04:33, 05 November 2005 (UTC)
- Though to be fair WEG took the SSD size from previous sources and thus shouldn’t actually be blamed for just doing what they were told to do. All in all the work that actually went into all these WEG guides is amazing and they are the single biggest source of SW lore and information ever. And half the Death Star is computer systems, weapons and what not, not all of it is intended for crew use, after all it is a big flying gun. —Unsigned comment by 188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs).
Should we display their current emblem, or the "star-across-a-blocky-W" emblem they had while still producing the SWRPG? jSarek 10:43, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
- Why not both, appropriately labelled? — Silly Dan 12:10, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
WEG Old BuildingEdit
WEG's Old Building... I lived there. They made (the old warehouse) into a few apartments and such. Not bad at all, low rent though. Just wanted to show my claim to fame.Avid Soyak 00:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- That's great but what has to do with the article? Rexas 08:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Emphasis on the WEG books in a non-RPG context Edit
Little concerned that the criticisms of the WEG stuff are completely irrelevant to the RPG itself. Quite frankly, there's no point at which the length of the SSD was going to be a crucial detail in a campaign. Pointing this out as a short coming, especially in the harsh words used above, completely ignores the purpose of those texts - which is to inform players and game masters, not stat-hungry fans. The article doesn't cover off the (over-) emphasis on the fringe instead of being Rebels, the limitations in the mechanics for developing Jedi players etc - just the numbers. People should consider these books weren't written for people to jealously hoard and overanalyse the numbers and leave that bias out of the article? - Endersai
- I agree, given the WotC page's lack of a similar criticism section (when one would be more warranted than here at WEG's) this reads like an angry pro-WotC fanboy rant that gives no credit to all the things the company did for the EU. They basically made 90% of what the EU was until the prequels came out. - Jeremy