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Legacy era Campaign Guide PicsEdit

There are quite a few pictures of Yuuzhan Vong in the Legacy Era Campaign Guide, can anyone upload the pictures? Would be helpful for the Yuuzhan Vong related articles. Darth Batrus 10:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Image?Edit

Whilst going through the net I found an image of two Yuuzhan Vong in their armour standing next to each other, one crouching, and I was wondering if that was from an illustration magazine thats official. I think I saw this image on Wookieepedia once but can't see to find it anymore. I think, if its from a proper source, that it might be a good image to add to the Yuuzhan Vong article. Does anyone know about it? Darth Batrus 22:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Yuuzhan Vong and ScarranEdit

After watching Farscape and Peacekeeper War, I think the appearance of Scarrans is very similar to Yuuzhan Vong. Does anyone agree with me? - South Warrior 15:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

DisassemblyEdit

Shouldn't the weapons and ships be separated from this page now? -- Riffsyphon1024 20:28, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

History SectionEdit

I rewrote the History Section because most of the information was incorrect.-- 222.153.26.66 16:05, April 23

Hyperspace Edit

If all the Yuuzhan Vong craft were organic, how did they ever achieve lightspeed with them? --Fade 17:03, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Disclaimer: I know very little about the Yuuzhan Vong --Fade 17:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HumanoidEdit

Are the Yuuzhan Vong related to Humans? They resemble Humans though they are taller and heavier and also have less hair on their head. Yet, they come from another galaxy. Could humans have colonised galaxies in the distant past long before the Old Republic? That is what it says on Curtis Saxton's Star Wars Technical Commentaries. 222.152.239.165

suppose they should be but the sloped forehead and eccentricniss (don't another word for it)kinda sets them apart--Rossdaboss99 13:11, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

  • There are a lot of biological differences - their blood is a completely different color, indicating an alternate structure of hemoglobin. I can't think of what mineral it would be based on, though. They're also shown to be hardier. Nom Anor muses at one point that their lifespans are longer and it's also notable that they have a much higher pain tolerance. (Well, duh.) Near human? Maybe. The similarities are really similar. But, then again, it is every day you find a bipedal ape-based mamalian. I had a nutty theory that they were meant to be Earth humans, but... *shrugs* I, personally, would not go as far as to say that they are near-human but would leave the door open. Vongchild 22:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

They look similar, but that's were the resemblances end.Red Head Rider 20:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I think I've read that they look much more like humans before they undergo the whole process of mutilating their bodies.--Darth OblivionComlinkSith Emblem 23:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
    • I seem to recall that as well. However, there are no images of an un-tatooed/scarred/implanted YV, so the claim can't be based. I do, however, remember a line in Vector Prime about how one of the Yuuzhan Vong "looked like Darth Vader," so it is entirely possible that with minimal scarring they can resemble a severely scarred human. At any rate, a human could be given cosmetic surgery to look like a Yuuzhan Vong (Tahiri's shaping, Conquest,) and most likely vice-versa holds true. -- Vongchild 19:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
    • humanoid measn human shaped. two-4 arms. 2 legs one head. thats all it means it doesnt mean that they are somehow related to humans dammit.

SymbolEdit

Don't the Yuuzhan Vong have a symbol? I saw the symbol in The New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels and on the cover of Vector Prime. It resembles an insect with a symbol in the middle. This symbol can't be found on the Internet. 222.152.239.165

  • Well, I know the Vong have a symbol thanks to the Miniatures set. There has to be a high res version if it floating around somewhere...TIEPilot051999 05:27, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Found it. It's right hereDarth Ceratis 02:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I put it up but it's too big and I'm not sure how to resize it. could someone who knows more about this stuff than me make it a little smaller?Darth Ceratis 03:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

PaperEdit

What did the Yuuzzies use for paper? I'm calling them Yuuzzies on talk pages now. -- SFH 00:55, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • Paper? Why does it matter? Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:03, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • Just wondering. The Intendant caste had to use something to keep track of their orders and requesitions. -- SFH 21:35, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • Skin of some kind most likely. Everything they have is organic, and not just floral organic. They like their stuff juicy and ripe with organs don'tcha know. --TheLIGHTSABERwieldingNERFHERDER 05:31, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  • My guess would be they kept track of things with specialized villips, but that's just a guess. jSarek 07:15, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  • Nen Yim used something (I think it was called a qahsa (sp?) ) as sort of a diary/log when she was on Zonama Sekot. I don't know (or remember) if they are exclusive to Shapers, however. StarNeptune 07:20, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  • Qahsas were used as organic memory banks, so that might be it. -- SFH 15:22, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    • So that's what they use for paper. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:25, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)
      • It's also pretty nonspecific. Ships have shipbrains, qahsas are like datapads, and buildings probably have brains too--Erl
  • Qahsas are, more or less, the equivalent of Datapads. They can be used to store and retrieve data, and i do believe they are a specialized sort of villip. Another thing is that they could be password locked... in a way. They would only respond to a genetic signature they had been "keyed" to. Which brings up another point - do they have a written language? I mean, they must, but there's never been any evidence. Vongchild 22:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Tahiri Veila was noted to have glyphs that marked her as a member of Domain Kwaad, so they would seem to have some sort of Logographic system. -- SFH 23:04, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Tahiri had scars. She could read the glyphs. Vongchild 13:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
  • In The New Jedi Order: Star by Star Nom Anor is described as "consulting a sheet of what looked like the shed skin of a snake". Vong paper? I think so. Deadwook 06:07, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Vong in Outboud FlightEdit

Palpatine ordered the Outbound Flight to be destroyed just to keep the knowledge of the Vong away from the Galaxy? Oh my God, it has finally happened...The entire Bantam EU has been retconned as prelude to the NJO! Next thing you know, they'll be saying that Palpatine formed the Empire just to stop the Vong. -- SFH 21:22, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Wow... I hope not. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:42, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Maybe my initial reaction was a little alarmist, but I have my reasons. They maybe on a scale of McEwok (no offense), but it is distrubing. While Splinter of the Minds Eye was technically the beginning of the EU, nobody really cared about it until the Thrawn Trilogy. By retconning into Thrawn's origin the Yuuzhan Vong as being a reason he attacked the Outbound Flight, they essentially lay claim to being responsible for the Thrawn Trilogy, and by proxy, the EU. It's crazy and deluded, I know, but I can only ask this: when trying to emphasize the terrors of the Unknown Regions, why did they pick an extragalactic species? -- SFH 00:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah, that's wierd. At least some species from inside the Galaxy, even if this species was unknown. Admiral J. Nebulax 01:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
      • It bugged me some too, but then I remembered that Palps, good old Palps, is a cheating, lying, scheming bastard. He told Thrawn he wanted to defend against the Vong, and Thrawn may have even believed him, but it's beside the point. Palps didn't care about the Vong at all, and Thrawn's desire to defeat the Vong is a long-term goal: weakened by time, and routine, and service to the Empire. It's little more than a contingency plan by the Thrawn Trilogy--Erl 02:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Palpatine knew about the vong? And he didn't think they were a threat?

Ugh. First they ruin the entire point of Revan's redemption with Kreia's insane ramblings about him really being the magical saviour of the galaxy, then they are having Palpatine's villain status taken away. Even Vader was written as being evil and in need of redemption. Lord Patrick 20:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Not the only known life originated outside the Galaxy? Edit

I mean Kwa came to the Star Wars galaxy long before even the first Yuuzhan Vong scout ship came possilibly at about 4000BBY at time of the Mandalorian War. Right? -Darth Tader

  • Waru was a trans-dimensional being from a universe parallel to the galaxy.Deadwook 06:16, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Similar to other racesEdit

Has anyone noticed that the Yuuzhan Vong bear a strong similarity to the Ssi-Ruuk and the Charon. The Ssi-Ruuvi caste system almost mirrors the Yuuzhan Vong's caste, and they are similar to the Charon in that they use organic technology, are extragalactic (though the Charon are from another dimension) and the obssession with death. Blaine Harris actually noted the Ssi-Ruuk/Yuuzhan Vong similarity. Should we put that in a "Behind the scenes" section? -- SFH 02:12, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Definitely mention that in BTS, if nowhere else. — Silly Dan 02:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Don't forget the Yevetha and the similarity of worshipping the leader as a god, as well as tendency to fight to the death even if they can't win. Thanos6 02:30, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I remember thinking when I was reading Vector Prime that "they SO should have made these guys the Charon." jSarek 02:57, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Isn't there another unknown extragalactic race from the Marvel Star Wars comics? I seem to remember it from the old Essential Chronology. Anyone remember? — SavageBob 19:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Nope--Rossdaboss99 13:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, actually there were two, the Nagai and the Tof, but they were retconned to being natives of the vUnknown Regions. Evir Daal 14:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Game Edit

With all this cool weaponry and stuff wouldn't it be cool if they had thier own game???????????--Rossdaboss99 19:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

  • It would be fun to shoot at them, I must admit. Get some of that aggression over Vector Prime out my system. -- SFH 19:41, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
  • That would be alright, but what I meant was where you play as the Yuuzhan Vong and the amphistaff and stuff and have to earn credits (or another biological form of curency) and that to make your way through the castes of Yuuzhan Vong life and to but biological upgrades for your self e.g Blorash jelly, fighting claw, steng's talons or grutchin, maybe. It's a thought.--Rossdaboss99 13:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I would rather play as the New Republic, Jedi, and Galactic Alliance, against the Yuuzhan Vong. --LordNyax13 8:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

  • So would I. Get to shot some scarheads. -- SFH 03:23, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah,I would like to see what the Vong's puny Ampistaffs and Thud bugs can do against an Imperial heavy repeater or other weapons that are vastly superior to Vong weaponry. --LordNyax13 8:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Battlefront 3, anyone? I would love to see Vong space battles (which would tear apart X-Wings) and maybe an unlockable Vong race. Also, heavy repeaters have trouble taking out armored Vong.

legacyEdit

is the section to broad? it had infomation which seems more blurby about the whole conflict rather than just appropriate to the vong? does it need trimming? Jedi Dude 17:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I feel this section is entirely useless and borders on fanon.

However, despite its ridiculous and extremely stupid ideas, it seems to play a large part in the "comic book" dominated era of 30-50 BBY.

I feel that having the New Jedi Order mixed up in this comic book junk is a bad idea, and goes a long way to destroying Star Wars and Wookieepedia credibility.

I have found no place where I can request that Wookieepedia stop the flow of comic book junk, perhaps considering comic book sources as "fanon" and disallowing comic book pictures and ideas as sources would be an excellent idea.

Star wars universe should consist of primarily movie and book related sources, with occasional videogame references, if they are feasible and seem well suited to the star wars universe.

None of the comic books seem feasible or at all like star wars..... clones, horrible battle droid ideas and worse abound.

Currently Wookieepedia is a few high quality movie references awash in a sea of comic book garbage. Look at Darth Vader's awesome page.....ruined by the idiotic ideas of fighting a "clone" darth maul....whose fan's demented idea was that? Or the dark woman? We should work to remove this ridiculous comic book overtone from Wookieepedia, and preserve its repuation.

I dont want to appear belligerent, but this really is something that should be cleaned up. The comic book plots are moronic at best.... surely we can get some consensus to at least purge movie related articles of them?

For instance, how about having a separate comic book section, where all comic book pictures and references would be relocated.

As otherwise, the majority of wookieepedia becomes something of a farce to the casual, or even hardcore star wars fan who likes the movies and possibly games....not comic books designed to entertain 11 year olds, butchering star wars in the process.

Do action figures also count as canon? See how ridiculous it is?

  • I repeat: Comic books are canon unless stated as Infinities. That is official policy. We change nothing - Kwenn 21:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • this is getting off topic, what i was asking is does the Legacy part ned to be so large, it seems to contain more than just the Vong part of the war, instead it seems to have a broad view of the war itself. Jedi Dude 21:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • For the legacy section being too broad, I agree with you. They should be scaled down to the Vong relevant info, as it is pretty much talked about places more suited. As for the anti-comic anon, your objections to comics being counted on as fanon on Wookieepedia is noted, and rejected. While I agree with your opinions on this particular comic, we follow the LFL outline itself on what is considered canonical and what is not. One cannot pick and chose their canon; that's movie purism. -- SFH 22:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd just like to mention that dark horse comics design their comics for 15-30 something year olds. If you'll notice, most of their titles (aliens, preditor, buffy, indiana jones) were popular with teens 4-15 years ago, making their audience that much older. Secondly, although some of the plots in the 90's were shakey, the four current series have better plotlines than90% of the novels written. So, in answer to your question, no You will not find a consenus to delete comic info (even if it wasn't recognized by LFL). Your opinion is not in the majority. Sorry buddy. IthinkIwannaLeia 07:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Incorrectly abbreviated? Edit

If "Vong" is not a real abbreviation, just slang/slurs made up the denizens of the Galaxy, does that mean we shouldn't call them Vong? — Aiddat (Holonet) (Contribs Log) NR Seal 13:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I guess not. We don't call Swokes Swokes simply "Swokes", after all - Kwenn 16:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It is used in correct grammer both in and out of universe, but the Yuuzhan Vong themselves consider it more insulting than...well, being called a machine, basically. That's why I call them Yuuzzies. However, for in-universe articles, we should probably convert "Vong" to "Yuuzhan Vong", unless it is a quote. -- SFH 17:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, if I recall the YV actually felt insulted when referred to only as "Vong". My guess is because it might mean "Children", since "Yuuzhan Vong" means "Children of the Gods" --Sauron18 00:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • The term "Vong" relates to the Shamed Ones of the Yuuzhan Vong culture. They are rejected because (a), they had a body part taken off and replaced by a other thing resembling the original body part by the shapers and the body rejected it, or (b), they did something to shame the Yuuzhan Vong in general and became a Shamed One as punishment.Mrhappy100 15:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Force Connection Edit

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Anakin Solo able to find them in the Force after using one of their lighting crystals in his saber? Jachra 20:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, but as Jacen Solo explained, Vongsense wasn't finding them through the Force, but through things connected with the Vong. I think Vongsense might be some sort of biological reaction to the Midi-chlorians in a Force-sensitive reacting to the lack of Force found in the Yuuzhan Vong's biotech, but that just ruins the "mystic" aspect, and a fanon theory, so we won't go there.
  • So...are there any explanations as to why most vong aren't connected to the force? There was that one force sensitive vong, so why was that vong sensitive and no one else?
  • Can a Yuuzhan Vong be force-sensitive - Darth Fury

When Anakin is helping harvest the crystals they note that there a connection of an almost telepathic nature is established between the crystal and the user. All Vong biotech is essentially connected genetically, so its not unreasonable that all these living creatures can sense each other. Thus by Anakin and Jacen forming a bond with the Vong biotech they were able to feel other elements of the Vong

Spoilers? Edit

Shouldn't there be a spoiler warning in this article? It gives away alot about the New Jedi Order series. --Darthvadersnewmaster 23:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Spoilers are only used when the article's contents are upcoming or recently come out. NJO ended three years ago, so the spoilers are unneeded. -- SFH 00:46, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • But there are still some people reading them, so it wouldn't hurt to warn them would it? ~-Darthvadersnewmaster 20:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)-~
  • If you're reading an article online, of course it's got spoilers. You're looking for spoilers. This whole thing is a mass of spoilers.

Is biotech superior?Edit

Is it really right to say the biotech was superior. I was left with the impression that while it was vastly different, it wasn't superior. Once the New Republic adapted to it they were about equal. Granted it heals, but that is about the only advantage. And even then, healing takes time while repairs can be done just as fast if not faster.. Dovin basals suffer the same limitations in hyperspace and can only travel in hyperspace if they have something to lock on to. Lava cannons have to visit asterioid fields or broken planets once they run out and can only carry so much as rocks can be carried in solid or liquid form. The villips could only communicate with specific ones unless breed otherwise. Every bit of technology would need nourishment from somewhere requiring resources devoted to that. Also, it would age and die eventually unlike some pieces of technology that can be shut off and then restarted years later. Shouldn't the wording in the article change to reflect this?


I think its safe to say that some elements of the Vong biotech were better than the New Republic. The Dovin Basils were better than energy shields, not only could the stop vitually anything shot at them they could also strip the shields from a fighter, the only weakness being that they had to power the ships movement and defense at the same time. The Vondun Crab armor seemed to be virtually indestructable, stopping a lightsaber is hard to do.

Pic from New Alien Species Guide Edit

Can somebody scan and upload the Vong pic from The New Essential Guide to Alien Species and put it in the character template? Personally, I think it's much better suited for the article than the one that's already there. TIEPilot051999 18:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Japanese Vong? Edit

I read an article on the 'net somewhere (can't remember the page) that compared the Vong to the Japanese in WW2. It said that the Galactic Empire was supposed, at least in part, to resemble Nazi Germany (COMPNOR, uniforms, human supremacy etc), while the Vong, the New Enemy, was designed to resemble WW2 Imperial Japan. They brought up a few points to support it: The Vong suddenly attack out of nowhere; think their sovereign ruler is a god; are obsessed with bravery, fanaticism, honour, and warrior code; their officers carry "swords"; perform vivisections and biological experiments; are alien supremacists as opposed to human (as the WW2 Japanese were Asian supremacists as opposed to White like the Nazis); begin a highly succesful blitzkrieg but are defeated due to their smaller industrial capacity and numbers; have superior technology in the beginning that is countered later in the war; and a couple of other things. It was all speculation, of course (that site was not official, I remember that), but perhaps it's something for Behind the scenes? Evir Daal 14:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

  • It's certainly some good info, but I think we need a link before we can add it. TIEPilot051999 15:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Even if that's true, do we really need to add it? I mean, we know that the Empire and the Vong and all those villains are evil, but we don't need to make direct connections to all the evil stuff in our own world. - lalala_la
      • Now you mention it, when I heard the books on cd the guy did give the Vong a somewhat Japanese-sounding accent.Darth Ceratis 19:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Well, their names sound Mandarin, so it is tempting to interpret it as if the Vongs subliminally were an expression anti-Asianism. I doubt that's the case though. KEJ 15:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
          • It wasn't my intent (or, I think, that of the people behind the site I drew upon for my comment, which I'm still looking for) to call the Vong an expression of anti-Asianism. All I, at least, meant with the comparison was to say that, like the Empire, the Vong may have been based on a WWII enemy of the USA, Imperial Japan. Politics all set aside. Evir Daal 07:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
            • Of course, when it comes down to it, most of these "Evil Empire" stereotypes are about the same anyway.Darth Ceratis 04:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Aggressive "Behind The Scenes" section Edit

I find the "behind the scenes" section quite aggressive against the Yuzzhan Vong. C'mon, not everyone hate them, and this comparison with the chinese is ridiculous!

  • I wouldn't call it aggressive, though it does seem as though, especially the Fan criticism section, may have been penned by one of the fans who dislikes the Yuuzhan Vong species in the EU. - JMAS 19:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, come to think of it, they kind of resemble the Aztecs, too, their religion is basically Aztecism. But as they are portrayed, I think they do bear a rather strong resemblance to WW2 Imperial Japan. But I agree with you on that paragraph about the chinese comparison. Anyway, a fair lot of people do dislike the Vong, and the section reflects that. Evir Daal 09:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Does anyone else get the impression that they resemble the Sea Peoples of antiquity? The Sea Peoples were a relatively alien people, in that they were probably not originally from any of the great Eastern Med. civilizations. They cut a similar swath of destruction through Mycenaeaen (sp) Greece, the Hittite Empire and the various Levantine city states. Religiously they are like the Aztecs, but as far as their extensive use of ships and their penchant for total warfare that often eliminates nearly all the vestiges of the civilizations that existed on the planets they have conquered I would say they also resemble the Sea Peoples. It is also worth noting that, unlike the Aztecs, the Sea Peoples wore armor that could be seen as striking fear in their enemies (horned helmets).
      • I remember us deciding to remove "fan criticism" sections on other articles.--Lord OblivionSith holocronSith Emblem 14:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I do believe this section lacks a neutral viewpoint; and it seems to be made almost entirely of baseless attacks. --Elmira Val 23:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
    • It's true not everyone hates the Vong, and I think "Vongarella" for instance is actually quite popular for an apocryphal character. Still, I think calling the whole Vong concept "hugely popular among many younger Star Wars fans" is over-stating the case. Didn't readership actually go down over the course of the NJO compared to the Bantam era? I know people who won't even read Legacy because they're still ticked from Vector Prime.
  • What's really ridiculous is the GI JOE bit. What? I really think some of this speculation on Cenobites and everything should go!--Elmira Val 22:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The main pictureEdit

Is there something better for the main picture than that one? Maybe a male-and-female comparison from one of the tabletop gamebooks or something? I mean, that warrior looks like he's dancing. I know that on closer inspection he's not, but really. It seems rather demeaning of the species. -- Vongchild 19:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Vision of the Future and Survivors quest Edit

I've read both these books and i did not see any refrences to the Vong. Did I miss something? Valin "Tnu" "Shido" Suul 03:32, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

  • The terrible enemies in the Unknown Regions that Parck and the others at the Hand were talking about in Vision were retconned to be the Vong. Evir Daal 12:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Retconned where? Source please! The "terrible enemies" could have been the Vagarri or any other enemies that Jagged Fel said "that the Chiss (in the Unknown Regions), turned aside foes that could have swept across the galaxy & left little for the Vong to destroy." I feel that this retcon was decided too hastily. Had those in the Chiss especially Thrawn's people in the Unknown Regions encountered the Vong, they would have been VERY preoccupied before entering into the galaxy. (Chente 14:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC))

Legacy EraEdit

Do we have any idea if the Vong are going to come back and fight the new empire in Star Wars Legacy?--The All-knowing Sith'ari 15:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I believe that is covered in the article. But no, they're not fighting. They're kind of wimpy galactic scapegoats. --Vongchild

Skin color?Edit

In the info box, it lists gray and yellow as the official skin tones. However, in some official art Tsavong Lah is brown and Nen Yim is blue-ish green. (Green-ish blue?) (And kind of purple?) Does anyone know what the official verdict on the real range of skin tones are, or are these two just kind of funny outliers like albino wookiees? --Vongchild

The Force? Edit

Can Yuuzhan Vong use the Force during the Legacy era? I read an article that contains a term:'Force-strong Yuuzhan Vong'. I don't remember where I found it therefore if anybody know the answer please inform me. Jasonfu 05:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

  • I think the article you are talking about is Vongerella which was I think during the closing days of the war with the Yuuzhan Vong and it was a Kyle Katarn related story about a darkside Force sensitive female Yuuzhan Vong. Not sure about Legacy as there is only mention of Shapers and thats it but the next two Legacy comics do have some Vong in them I think. Darth Batrus 12:01, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Now wait a minute. Wasn't Cade's friends turned into Vongs and then brought back to normal thanks to the force? Gustafar 14:25, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Vong in KotOR? Edit

Canderous Ordo mentions a rock that spat out blobs of energy that ate through shield and hull plating, just before speeding away. He stresses the point that it looked like an asteriod.

It was a Yorik-stronha, and is already mentioned in History/Pre-invasion section of this article. --OuroborosCobra 10:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Legacy picturesEdit

Since Legacy comics seem to be our best source for the future of visual info about the YV, I think at least one picture from that comic series should be included in the article. Most of the promotional pictures used in the articl show a wide variety of looks for the YV and it does not leave the reader with a good sense of what the average member of the race looks like (I know this species' looks vary greatly from the numerous body modifications, but the Legacy books do seem to give them a general picture). Someone please ad a Legacy pic somewhere. Preferably a frame with multiple YV in it to see variation. IthinkIwannaLeia 07:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


The Force (againEdit

So, where the Yuuzhan Vong undetectable through the Force and immune to Focre attacks, or where they just not noticable through the Force? Cause I have heard alot, and I think we need to clear that up in the article, because I was reading some novels, and Luke used the Force to send a whole bunch of Vongs backwards. SoAnd I have read so many places that they were immune to it, which isn't true, right?

Well, Anakin Solo had a Lambent in his lightsaber that allowed him to detect the Vong through a psychological connection to the lambent. But in the novel The New Jedi Order: Star by Star, Anakin ran into a bunch of Ysalamiri, which can repel the Force and make people lose contact with it, and he lost contact with his lambent, therefore showing the Vong have a place in the Force, whether it be detectable or not. mrhappy100Mrhappy100 21:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

    • the vong relationship with the force is an odd. they are connected but tehy arent allowed to feel this connection. its like the force has been rendered inert. btw tehy arent immune to attacks you just cant target them with attacks spicifcally. you cant pick one up and throw it or use a mind trick on it. you can however push everything in that general direction and the vong will be be pushed

Yuuzhan Vong/Aztec Indian Relations? Edit

if you look at the way the aztec indians acted, they sound a little bit like a yuuzhan vong. so maybe the idea of the yuuzhan vong came from the study of the aztec indians.Mrhappy100 15:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

  • If you have a source, feel free to add it. Otherwise, that should be kept out of the article. I have heard that comparison though. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 15:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Darth Bane armor like Yuuzhan Vong armor? Edit

Lately I have noticed a lot of similarities in armor between the Yuuzhan Vong and Darth Bane. Both seem to have the same properties and resistance to lightabers and other elements. The only difference seems to be that the orbalisk armor that Darth Bane wears feeds off the dark side of the force and causes severe pain to the person "infected" by them. Also, the orbalisk seem to reproduce on the organism that they attach to and keep growing until the whole person is covered or the person stops them from reproducing. However, the similarities seem to be more in that when either one of the armor dies they kill the person they are protecting as well. There is one exception that I know of is that the orbalisk can be removed, though it is not advised to do so, but the Yuuzhan Vong armor cannot be removed that I know of.

I believe that there is more to this than just simple references that you have to make on your own. I think that you could impose that the Vong had come to the galaxy before and fell into the same problem that Darth Bane had with the orbalisk, but with the Vong being masochism that they actually thought this was the best creature to help them. It also might be how the Vong got creatures back to their space or genetically engineer their own. this idea seems to be very far fetched but it could be possible becuase when they invaded the galaxy them seemed to know now to take it down despite their spies. It seems that they had been studying the galaxy for awhile and learn much about us, our worlds, and the creatures on the worlds in order to help themselves conquer the galaxy.

These are all my own observations and my own thinking of the two different armors that seem to have a lot in common with each other. It seems to be much more than just concidence to me but then again it could be just that, a concidence.Unsigned comment by Darth Dinger (talk • contribs).

Stupid Picture? Edit

Ok, I dont have anything against minifigures, but doesnt that picture just look really stupid in the article? I wouldnt mind so much if it were waay closer up and you couldnt see the "STAR WARS" base, but even then, im not a fan. Is anyone against removing it? Dark Lord Trayus 20:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Only the one with the "star wars" base? I think there's some policy somewhere about using images of figures. Only if there is no other image available, or something like that. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
    • Im pretty sure there's plenty of available images of Vong. We dont even really need one right there, its not essential. Dark Lord Trayus 03:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Yuuzhan Vong Age? Edit

Just curious, what is the normal lifespan of a Yuuzhan Vong. I would like to know because it actually pertains my RP character, so if anyone can answer this...

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PronunciationEdit

How do you pronounce Yuuzhan Vong? --86.145.110.112 15:57, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

  • I've been wondering that for a long time, and I can't seem to find any place here that provides the information. I've heard several different pronunciations but nothing that identifies which is the correct one. I'd check some of the books that mention them but other than Essential Guides I don't have any. Darth Nordeck 19:52, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
  • I would imagine IPA "juːʒan voŋ" MartinJaber42 (talk) 03:43, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Force Sensitive Edit

Explain this. if the Yuuzhan Vong are not touched by the force. "being outside it or dead to it." then how are there force sensitive vong? that confuses me

Well Omini became force sensitive by adding yammosk tissue to his brain (yammosk havve natural telepethy), so it could be through artifical means. Or pherhaps they can overcome their races lack of force sensitivity. But so far theres only been 2 force senstive Vong so we can't know for sure.--Gangsta Grunt 02:18, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Age?Edit

So...the infobox says that they can live to be up to 76 years old. Right below it, it says they live to be two to three times Human length. Anyone else seeing a problem? Chack Jadson (Talk) 21:22, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

  • Maybe it should be reworded? I'm pretty sure the average lifespan is low because so many die in battle and mutilation rituals, but their maximum lifespan is about 2-3 times that of a human. So...how does that work in the infobox? Cull Tremayne 21:36, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
    • That makes sense, and I'm sure I (or someone) could find a way to reword it in the infobox, but are you sure that theory is canon? Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:36, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
      • I've tried something with the lifespan box. See if that makes a little more sense Drathe 22:47, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

War Edit

Does anybody else think that the fairly word-for-word description of the Yuuzhan Vong War as seen on the Yuuzhan Vong War article should be removed? I do - it makes the other article fairly redundant, or at least makes this one a bit convoluted. Opinions, please! MillieMuddFan67 20:02, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

 ?????????? Edit

Sine all their weaponry is organic does that mean like razor bugs and yuzzan weapons need to be fed?

You actually spell it Yuuzhan not yuzzan but anyway. Their ships "ate" rocks. But their weapons had to be fed in a way probably that like a piece of grass needs to be fed.Cal Jedi 18:00, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

KOTOR Edit

At what point in Knights of the Old Republic were the Yuuzhan Vong mentioned?

  • At one point, it is possible to ask Canderous Ordo about his history. If you get enough stories out of him, he will tell you about a time when he encountered an asteroid that spat blobs of energy that ate through shields and plating, then fled beyond the galactic rim. It was a Yorik-stronha

Do the Yuuzhan Vong really originate from outside the Main Star Wars Galaxy? Edit

I'm asking because Zonama Sekot, the Yuuzhan Vong's original homeworld, and thus where they originated, is a mobile planet in the unknown regions but still in the main Star Wars Galaxy, thus the Yuuzhan Vong did not originate from outside the Galaxy. They may have left it and returned later, but they did not evolve on a different Galaxy from the one where Star Wars takes place, which would be worth mentioning.98.240.167.82 12:13, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Zonama Sekot is the seed of their original homeworld Yuuzhan'tar which was located in another galaxy. Marcheto 13:28, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Obi-Wan Edit

You know when Obi-wan felt a disturbance when Alderaan was blown up? Did some Jedi feel it when the Yuuzhan Vong were severed from the Force, too? Caeserguy 01:57, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

ReceptionEdit

From what I've heard, the Yuuzhan Vong haven't gotten the best reception. Is it just because people felt they were out of place, or is more hate for New Jedi Oder?

Real world inspiration: Huns Edit

Another possible real-world inspiration are the Huns. As described in Medieval Europe: A Short History (11th edition, p. 23) by Judith M. Bennett, Huns "decorated themselves with scars, tattoos, and [had] heads elongated in infancy." See also Wikipedia:Huns#Appearance and customs. Quin 21:42, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

  • We can't include that in the article unless you get one of the NJO writers to confirm it was an influence. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 08:18, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

I think that the Yuuzan Vong's living machinery were better than orthodox machinery.

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