Talk:Ziro Desilijic Tiure
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Audio Book
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The page is locked so I can't add it, but I've been listening to the Audio Book of The Clone Wars, and instead of using the "gay" voice that's used in the movie, the reader does his voice in a standard Hutt voice similar to how Jabba speaks.--76.108.145.182 11:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have been gay all my life, and I do not sound a thing like Truman Capote. Ziro isn't an offensive stereoptype, because he is an imaginary space-gangster. Truman Capote was real, and really talked like that, and 'was' an unfortunate stereotype. Ziro is simply effete and decadent, rather like Zorg in 'The Fifth Element' as portrayed by Gary Oldman - and I don't recall any scandal about Zorg.Fir bholg 06:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well whether you agree or disagree with it is somewhat irrelevant. There is hubbub in the media about it that can be cited, so it is worth mentioning in the "Behind the Scenes".--Anderson 16:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have been gay all my life, and I do not sound a thing like Truman Capote. Ziro isn't an offensive stereoptype, because he is an imaginary space-gangster. Truman Capote was real, and really talked like that, and 'was' an unfortunate stereotype. Ziro is simply effete and decadent, rather like Zorg in 'The Fifth Element' as portrayed by Gary Oldman - and I don't recall any scandal about Zorg.Fir bholg 06:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Did somebody say Gary Oldman?He played Gordon in The Dark Knight and Batman Begins!Batman!Batman's my hero! Satipo 02:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)SatipoSatipo 02:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- I love Batman too, Satipo, but this isn't the place to talk about it. Zakor1138 02:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Ruling the Desilijic?
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The article states he wanted to get rid of Rotta, then Jabba so he could rule the Desilijic clan, but if he did that, he'd only be the heir to the leading position, as Jiliac was in control of the Desilijic kajidic at the time... Stormie Fan 23:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Crimlord listing
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Should'nt Ziro be in the Crimelord Category?
Ziro or Zero?
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Is his name "Ziro" or "Zero" because it sounds like Padme says "Zero" sometimes. Also, shouldn't "Ziro The Hutt" or "Zero The Hutt" be the title instead of just "Ziro" or "Zero"? —Unsigned comment by JediMasterNicholas (talk • contribs).
- It's definitely Ziro. Titles are not included in article names, and "the Hutt" is a title. -Milo Fett[Comlink] 20:39, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Masculine Personality
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How does he have a masculine personality? I'm aware the character was designed to be male but still. --TheDoctor42 21:27, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- All official sources (and you, apparently) refer to him as "he." Masculine in this case is defined as such, like how C-3PO and even R2-D2 are referred to as "he," despite not having the biological characteristics of male organisms. Whether Ziro is masculine-sounding or -acting is up to you. -Milo Fett[Comlink] 22:02, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- You are right.--TheDoctor42 22:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Which really begs the question if a Hutt changes his/her personality, style of voice, etc when they undergo a gender transition, eh? Does anyone have anything official on that? Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith 14:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- There's that one female Hutt from Boba Fett: When the Fat Lady Swings that gives birth, but since it's a comic, it doesn't say how she sounds. -Milo Fett[Comlink] 22:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nothing super-official, but he's called Jabba's uncle, right? —Lucius malfoy7 (Talk page) 22:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Possibly only as the more accurate "offspring of my grandparent who is not my parent" is too long.--TheDoctor42 17:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- He could have been his aunt just the previous week. Who knows? -Milo Fett[Comlink]
- Yes and no. Hutts usually chose if they want to be masculine or feminine, and they stick with it. The point of the matter is that we have official sources/appearances giving him a masculine title, and he is referred to as masculine by other characters. As we have no official data saying anything else, he has a masculine personality. —Lucius malfoy7
(Give it up for Lil' 'Soka Tano, ladies and gents!) 14:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- I do believe Ziro has a FEMININE personality. --72.197.35.238 03:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes and no. Hutts usually chose if they want to be masculine or feminine, and they stick with it. The point of the matter is that we have official sources/appearances giving him a masculine title, and he is referred to as masculine by other characters. As we have no official data saying anything else, he has a masculine personality. —Lucius malfoy7
- Nothing super-official, but he's called Jabba's uncle, right? —Lucius malfoy7 (Talk page) 22:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- You are right.--TheDoctor42 22:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Homosexual?
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I heard rumours about the character being homosexual. Though it's kind of silly considering Hutts are naturally hermaphroditic, is there any truth behind this? 64.180.93.200 23:51, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- If they're rumors, most likely not. And as it stands, that claim has no evidence to back it up. --CC7567 http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/5/5f/Rex.png/20px-Rex.png talk 00:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to make this perfectly clear: THERE IS NO HOMOSEXUALITY IN STAR WARS WHATSOEVER! Hutts are hermaphrodite, meaning they change gender. Ziro overall is a male but can be viewed as caught in the middle between male and female. - DarthSitheous
- There is homosexuality in Star Wars, actually. See Juhani, and Goran Beviin. Chack Jadson (Talk) 18:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Going by what Ziro said right after he was released from Prison, I doubt he was gay. He mentioned the unspeakable terrors and horrors he experienced at the prison, which is usually a reference to some of the current problems with prison such as prison sexuality (which is raping the prisoner who was incapable of defending himself, as most of the prisoners, due to the separation of genders, can't sleep with women.). Of course, that doesn't completely prove him against it, although his being a hermaphrodite certainly does, I'd have to say that's the biggest hint other than the Hermaphroditic nature of Hutts. Weedle McHairybug 11:52, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
- If it's not confirmed, it's not canon, and this page is not for speculation on the matter. CC7567 (talk) 20:30, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Going by what Ziro said right after he was released from Prison, I doubt he was gay. He mentioned the unspeakable terrors and horrors he experienced at the prison, which is usually a reference to some of the current problems with prison such as prison sexuality (which is raping the prisoner who was incapable of defending himself, as most of the prisoners, due to the separation of genders, can't sleep with women.). Of course, that doesn't completely prove him against it, although his being a hermaphrodite certainly does, I'd have to say that's the biggest hint other than the Hermaphroditic nature of Hutts. Weedle McHairybug 11:52, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
Ziro's height
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In Hostage Crisis, he seems to be face to face w/ Orn Free Taa. (It was either him or clone, can't remember) It looks like he is est. 1.95m. Can we put that? ARC Commander Zek 23:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Not unless stated by an official source. --CC7567 http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/5/5f/Rex.png/20px-Rex.png talk 01:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Where is this from?
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- "O Ziro the Hutt, Master of the Hutt Clan on Seven Systems, I am sorry, your Highness."
- ―KRONOS-327 addresses Ziro by his formal title
I don't recall hearing this on TCW film... Alexrd 21:49, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
Affiliation to CIS?
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under the box that says affiliation it doesn't say CIS. wasn't Ziro helping count Dooku?--70.253.70.148 23:44, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
Jedi Alliance
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The article states the events of Jedi Alliance take place after Hostage Crisis, but doesn't Ziro say about not wanting to be anywhere near Coruscant and he wanted to go to the far outer-rim? Besides, he appears to be on friendly terms with the Jedi and Republic, this doesn't sound like someone who just was broke out of a Republic prison due to conspiring with the Republics enemies and trying to kill a Senator. ClonewarsCIS 21:49, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
- The article has been adjusted. CC7567 (talk) 01:05, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
- But how can that be? Ahsoka Tano was present in the game as Anakin's Padawan. If the game took place before Ziro's arrest, then Ahsoka wouldn't have been assigned to her master. But it couldn't have taken place after Ziro's arrest and the Hostage Crisis, because he was taken to Nal Hutta (then killed). Unless he somehow broke out of prison once (which doesn't fit either because of ClonewarsCIS's comment above) there doesn't seem to be any place that the events of the game could fit. The game did come long before the episode "Hunt For Ziro", so perhaps it just isn't canon? Or is there something I'm missing?--Shadow34 00:15, January 14, 2011 (UTC)