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Contents 1 fodigg's getting started questions 2 Karen Traviss 3 Hylo Visz 4 FAN 5 Greetings 6 Re 7 Hey, you're that guy from that Star Wars podcast Torocast! 8 Question 9 Jaden Korr's lightsabers 10 Darksaber page: canon-level 11 Workbench 12 Re: 13 Re: Gray Jedi revert 14 Cleanup 15 Re: copy-edit on Gray Jedi 16 Re: Gray Jedi advice 17 Re:thanks 18 WookieeProject: The Old Republic 19 Re: 20 Categorization 21 Image cats 22 Reply 23 Gormak 24 help request 25 Re: Voss 26 http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Star_Wars:_The_Old_Republic&s=wldiff&diff=0&oldid=3092146 27 Re:nom=y 28 Captions 29 Procedure CT 30 Gray Jedi review 31 Congrats 32 Re: thanks again 33 Operative 34 2.3 Expansion 35 Re: Sith species article 36 Re: gray jedi/gray paladins question 37 Torocast?

fodigg's getting started questions Edit

If you have further questions about how things are done around here, feel free to visit the Wookieepedia:Help page, or ask me or one of the many other helpful members and administrators. You can find a list of administrators at Wookieepedia:Administrators. OLIOSTER 21:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks again. fodigg 21:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
• How do you do the fun tag and still have it count with the timestamp? fodiggFodigg 21:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC) (note the double name issue)

Still messing with ending tag. There that seemed to fix the issue. Just an extra "~". fodigg | 21:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

You need only to sign with four tildes. Also, if you want me (or others) to see your questions more easily, post them in their talk page, not your own (such as mine, User talk:Olioster). OLIOSTER 21:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, but then I don't get the desired formatting for my name, right? Like how you prefer your name displayed in all caps? And it was such a minor issue I honestly didn't want to bother you with it. Fodigg 21:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

You can create a custom signature with Wiki formatting in your preferences (at the top of the page, under the MORE tab, click My preferences) OLIOSTER 22:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

• coooool. test. --fodigg | 22:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

You are not required to explain every change to an article in its talk page. If you would like to add a note about what you changed, add it to the summary field before submitting the edit. Talk pages are usually used for disputes about the contents of the article. OLIOSTER 22:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Very well. I was under the impression that it all ended up in the same place anyway. --fodigg 20:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Changes all end up in the articles History page anyway, so like I said, if you wish to explain your edit, do it in the edit summary field on the edit page. This summary will show up in the History page along side information about your edit. OLIOSTER 21:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Karen Traviss Edit

Good Point you make i never thought of it that way. Please ask other users to post their thoughts on my talkpage! have a wookiee-tastic day.Hansoloandleia 21:22, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Hylo ViszEdit

Hylo Visz is a candidate to become a featured article, which means the nominator has the exclusive right to do most of the edits, with the exception of the minor ones. Removing large paragraphs of text from such articles is strictly prohibited. If you have any objections or suggestions, list them at the nomination page and let the editor respond to them. Mauser^Comlink 16:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

• If by "redundant" information you refer to the intro section, be aware the intro is supposed to be the summary of the article, which means repeating info present in the body in a shorter way. Also, any objections you have, be they regarding content, sectioning or grammar, must be listed on the FAN nomination page, so that the nominator can choose the best way to deal with them. Mauser^Comlink 16:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
  • There were more than few sentences that seemed to be duplicated in multiple sections, and the intro section did not read like a summary of the article, IMO. It read like a duplication of the article. // fodigg 17:01, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
    • If that was the case, then the article's nomination section is where these concerns should be raised, as Mauser correctly states. You could also contact Trayus on his talk page. While users are encouraged to be bold, candidacy for featured articledom is a more complex issue. Hope that helps :) -- —Harrar ^(Villip) 17:48, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
      • It does. I had done what you suggested, but felt it would be easier to show than tell, and I was indeed trying to "be bold" with my edits. I was unaware the taboo on editing nominated articles. // fodigg 18:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
        • I think you should understand—perhaps you already do—that there is not a "taboo" on editing nominated articles. There is, however, an unspoken consensus that to perform major edits, such as removing swathes of text from the introduction or reformatting whole paragraphs and sentences, is really an action taken by the nominator, at the advice of others if they believe that it will benefit the article. Sometimes members of the Inquisitorius, who are reviewing the article, may heavily edit the nominated article at the author's request, but this is usually undertaken when objections are unclear or aren't hitting the mark. Have a look at some successful past nominations perhaps—we welcome contributors to take part in the FAN process, and it does take time to learn the ropes, trust me. Drop me or an Inquisitor, or an admin, a line if you have more questions. -- —Harrar ^(Villip) 18:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
          • I didn't mean "taboo" as a negative. I'm fully aware that I'm a newbie and I'm going to "crash about" a bit. I wouldn't have even attempted the changes had I not been aware they could easily be removed, as they were. You can see as much from my comments on the Hylo talk page. // fodigg 19:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

FAN Edit

Hey Fodigg. Just thought I'd let you know that your vote has been struck on Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations per our policy, which states you must have 50 valid main namespace (article) edits before being able to vote on the FAN. As you can see from your edit count you currently only have 35 main namespace edits. Once you get up to 50 mainspace edits your vote can be unstruck, be sure to let me know when you get there and I can unstrike your vote :). Thank you. Grunny ^(Talk) 11:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Greetings Edit

Are you the same Fodigg thats on the SWTOR forums? --Obi-wan Jacobi 06:25, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

• Yes I am! Are you on there too? fodigg ^(talk) | 17:21, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

ReEdit

Eh, I dunno why I marked it as minor. As for the information removed, yes, there could be truth in there, but as it was, it was POV, unencyclopedic and repetitive. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 16:10, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, you're that guy from that Star Wars podcast Torocast! Edit

I think...—Unsigned comment by 71.15.86.5 (talk • contribs).

• Yessir. This wiki is where brush up on my star wars nerdery. Love wookieepedia. —fodigg ^(talk) | 14:49, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Question Edit

Is this image taken from a TV screen? It is quite bad quality. Xd 20:05, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

• Oh, I see. Could you in the future not upload images with that kind of quality. They really lower the quality of the article, IMO. :-) Xd 20:44, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Jaden Korr's lightsabers Edit

Hey Fodigg. In the novel Crosscurrent Jaden's first lightsaber was described as having a short hilt, correct? If so, would that not make the Consul (hilt) hilt the canocial one? As it is the only one that is significantly shorter than the others. 86.170.191.35 18:08, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Fodigg.

Darksaber page: canon-level Edit

Was going to comment on the Darksaber page, can't because I'm too new. Anyway, follow up comment to your last comment on canon level.

"anything directly provided to Lucas Licensing by Lucas" was a key comment that I wanted to bring up. If George created the concept, then handed it off to a third party creator to use in his work, wouldn't that fall under consultation, keeping it T-canon? Similar to any number of other ideas and concepts implimented through him as consultant for any other media he's actively consulting on. Games are one of the biggest ones I can think of that he involves himself in.

Basically, if he isn't directly providing the concept to LL, but is rather providing it to a writer who then incorporates it in his own work and hands that off to Licensing, it would revert to a T-canon level.—Unsigned comment by Jxspyder (talk • contribs).

Except that he did directly provide the concept for the item in question. It was his invention, not a suggestion by him that led to something else. The episode is T-canon, but the item is G-canon. If he was just generally consulting then it'd be different (see The Force Unleashed), but this is clearly a case where—while consulting—he decided he wanted something different and designed something new himself. The element that he designed is therefore G-canon. —fodigg ^(talk) | 16:07, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Workbench Edit

Hey Fodigg. Could you possibly remove your workbench from main namespace categories. This is accomplished by inserting a colon in front of the cat, like this: Category:Jedi. Main namespace categories are reserved for articles, not user subpages. Cheers. :) -- Xd 13:56, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

• Whoops! Sorry about that! I'll take care of it immediately. —fodigg ^(talk) | 13:57, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
  • The interwiki links doesn't have to be like that. :) --Xd 13:59, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
    • Ok, thanks. I'll go and change those back. —fodigg ^(talk) | 13:59, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Edit

I don't have the time to explain the process right now, but I'm sure that if you ask a member of the AgriCorps review panel, they will be happy to help you. Good luck with your nom :) --Xd 19:44, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Gray Jedi revert Edit

No problem and no need to apologize either. Good luck with the article. Xicer9^(Combadge) 02:15, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

CleanupEdit

Heyo! When you're editing a page, click on the drop-down menu next to "Standard summaries: (click to browse)". The numbers there don't correspond to the manual of style or to anything else, but are just the most basic examples of how an article can be edited/improved. If what you've done to an article corresponds to any of them, it's recommended that you select one of them from the menu so that other users have an idea of what your edit was all about. When you click on one it will appear in the empty box, and you can also add your own text afterwards. "1.1: cleanup" is very general and can refer to all different kinds of cleanup, so it's the one that people use most often. It actually took me a long time to realize that that drop-down menu even existed. I was slow on the draw with quite a few things in my first few years here... you're definitely doing the right thing by asking; you'll find that this place is a community whose members like to help each other out. Menkooroo 16:47, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re: copy-edit on Gray Jedi Edit

No problem, you're doing well for your first nom; keep up the good work. :) Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(We seed the stars)} 18:05, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Gray Jedi advice Edit

Hey Fodigg, first off: yes, as far as I am concerned, the main difference between FAs and GAs is the article length; the standards should be the same. And for an article/topic as large and prominent as Gray Jedi, I won't hesitate to urge you to move it over to the featured article nominations page, if you so wish, simply because there's no reason not to, now that the article is long enough to be an FA. Let me know if this is the path you choose to take and I'll remove the article from the GAN page, then you'll be free to nom it on the FAN. And absolutely no problem, always glad to be of help! :) Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(We seed the stars)} 22:22, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

• I have to add though, that—especially if you decide to nom it for FAN—you should definitely re-add the info you recently removed from the article. Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(We seed the stars)} 22:25, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually, the only parts that (as far as I can tell) really were extraneous were the extra info on Krayt's assassination and the listing of Jedi academy locations. I think pretty much all of the rest of the info should fit back in just fine. Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(We seed the stars)} 23:34, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
    • Okay, cool :). And I don't know for sure that it would necessarily get more reviews as an FAN rather than a GAN, or that the nomination process would be particularly faster either way. However, I do suggest moving it to FAN, because at it's current state it fits better into that category. Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(We seed the stars)} 00:34, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
      • Yeah, at the length it is right now, there's really no reason not to go for an FA :P. So shall I go ahead and remove it from the GAN page so that you can nom it on the FAN? Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(We seed the stars)} 00:41, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
        • Alright, its free to nominate on the FAN now! And no, the objections don't automatically transfer over, but most of the outstanding ones left on the GAN appeared to have been taken care of already, anyway. I'll give the article another review sometime soon, hopefully in the next couple days or so. :) Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(We seed the stars)} 01:55, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re:thanks Edit

No problem. :) Good work. JangFett ^(Talk) 03:30, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

WookieeProject: The Old RepublicEdit

Hey Fodigg, I just wanted to formally invite you to become a member of WookieeProject The Old Republic. I know you've been interested in articles relating to the game and have been doing some work in the area, and I would love to have your help! Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)} 02:42, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Edit

No worries. So long as the articles are there, its a good thing. Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)} 20:05, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

• Just as a heads-up for future articles as well: entries of the Galactic Timeline are going to be listed under "Sources" now, as are all other entries on the HoloNet. Also, for the news articles for new Timeline entries and such, those should also be placed under "Sources" instead of "External links." External Links is ususally only for unofficial pages. As the article is on the game's official site, it should be with sources. I've fixed Ovair and Gynt for you. The articles look good though. I'll give them a review soon. Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)} 20:14, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  • Ah yeah, that was my mistake for not fixing that. It should be the first mentioned template instead. Same goes for the news articles, as their released simultaneously. Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)} 20:18, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
    • Yes. It's kind of the precedent that was set with Voren Na'al. Like Gnost-Dural, he's the "in-universe" author of works that are presented as an in-universe account of events. Kind of difficult to understand, but a good rule of thumb is that if its a story told by an anonymous third-person narrator, like The Old Republic: Smuggler's Vanguard, it's an appearance. If its an in-universe account from an in-universe prospective, its a source. Even easier than that I guess would be to say that if it comes from the site's HoloNet feature, it's a source. I hope that helps a bit. Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)} 20:28, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

CategorizationEdit

Please familiarize yourself with how categories work before going to town like that. Your new Gray Jedi image category is redundant, please use Category:Images of Imperial Knights for images of Imperial Knights. I am going to revert all your changes. --Imperialles 19:05, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

• If you want Category:Images of Imperial Knights to be a sub-category of Category:Images of Gray Jedi, simply add it to the Images of Gray Jedi category page. Adding the category Images of Gray Jedi to every image of an Imperial Knight is entirely redundant. --Imperialles 19:12, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
  • Don't worry about it, these things happen. I made the same error when I first joined the site several years ago. --Imperialles 19:16, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Image catsEdit

Don't worry about it. :p --Imperialles 18:10, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

ReplyEdit

Yeah, that's what I thought too. :P They are obviously running out of ideas. -- 1358 ^(Talk) 18:19, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Gormak Edit

You'll want to replace File:Gormak closeup.png with File:Gormak closeup.jpg on your workbench. Oh, and just as an FYI, all the images on the SWTOR site are native JPG format, so that is the format they should remain and be uploaded in. :) - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 21:32, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

• (copied from JMAS's talk page) Thanks for the heads-up. I'll start capturing these in JPG instead of PNG. PNG was just what my Fullshot defaulted to. —fodigg ^(talk) | 21:34, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
  • There's the problem. You don't want to be using your screen grab software, or print screen key on your keyboard. If the image isn't clickable to a larger size which can be saved, then just right-click and "save image as" on the menu. :) - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 21:38, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

help requestEdit

Could you please help me out? On other wikia's I am not able to comment edit, or anything. I'm beginning to think tht someone has blocked me or something about an established user,try checking out deviantart wikia please AmyPinkRose May 5, 2010 10:40 A.M.

It won't let me I already tried tht earlier AmyPinkRose May 5, 2010 10:45 A.M.

Re: Voss Edit

Greetings. A lack of such a section is perfectly fine, so long as there's no available information on that aspect of the subject. Layout guides are just that; guidelines. --Imperialles 16:35, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Star_Wars:_The_Old_Republic&s=wldiff&diff=0&oldid=3092146 Edit

Sorry I forget that actual discussion is prohibited. -TheLostJedi 23:24, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re:nom=yEdit

The "nom=y" variation of inuse is used to denote an article that has been written or "completed" but is waiting to be posted on either the FAN or GAN page. This is usually for articles that exceed your allowed number of nominations at a single time. For example, if you already had three featured article nominations on the FAN page, but you just completed the editing of a fourth, you may want to ensure that no one makes massive edits to your article while you are waiting to be eligible for another nomination. In that instance, you would place this template on the top of the page, in place of Inuse. Like so:

{{Inuse|nom=y|Darth Trayus}}

—Unsigned comment by Dark Lord Trayus (talk • contribs).

Captions Edit

I noticed an edit summary on the RC page. Just wanted to let you know, links in quotes are definitely not wanted. However, links can be in image captions, if the link is nowhere in the article itself (for smaller articles) or anywhere close to the image (for larger, multi-sectioned articles). Usually, neither of these criteria is met, and so the captions don't need links, but it's not a blanket rule. Just a head's up. :) - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 19:46, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Procedure CT Edit

Hey, Fodigg. Just letting you know that we've tweaked the wording of the CT on procedure so that a reply is not required. The new wording features this clause removed from option one: "All users who have cast votes prior to the desired change to be included are directly contacted and have expressed either their approval or rejection of said change by commenting under their vote, or the alteration to the vote is rendered invalid." Thanks. — Fiolli ^{{Alpheridies University ComNet}} 19:59, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Gray Jedi review Edit

Hey Fodigg, I'd like to review your nom for Gray Jedi. Since this is my first review of one of your noms, I'd like to point out that I am usually familiar with the subject material—especially when it deals with KotOR--related material—and will let you know otherwise. However, I will present the review, as I do with all of my other reviews, as if I didn't know anything about the material. Secondly, I want to commend you for undertaking this type of article, I myself have taken two organizations to FA and GA status, respectively. Anyway, not too many people do this, and these types of articles are just as important as character or vehicle articles.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:18, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

• You did a good job Fodigg, proud to support it. Have you considered working on Jolee Bindo's article? I would be willing to help you with whatever you need.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 02:33, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Congrats Edit

Let me be the first to congratulate you on getting your first FA! I had a similar experience with Malak, except I merely renominated him for the GA's. FYI, I do plan on renomming him for the FA's, but that's besides the point. You worked hard and did a great job. The article deserves to be an FA, I'm proud of you, just keep them coming!--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 14:02, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re: thanks again Edit

Hey Fodigg, absolutely no problem at all! And congrats on the successful FA, I'm glad to see all your hard work come to fruition. For an article covering a topic that large, it's very rare to see a user who is new to nomming articles stick with it all the way through, and I'm proud that you did; and you should be too! I look forward to more noms from you in the future. :) Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 18:26, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Operative Edit

Thank you for the job done on the operative page, it is one of the first page I created, and I never figured out how to present it properly. Spryquasar 18:30, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

2.3 Expansion Edit

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The telekenisis Page ist not godd ist incomplate I know one Force wind user The trial of spirit sith stalker did not use it? A yes did it against galen though.—Unsigned comment by 84.225.108.113 (talk • contribs).

• Yes, the telekinesis page is a mess, but I don't think it's intended to be a complete list of all instances of a power being used or all users of a power. As long as it has the major variations of a power and some example users/uses, then it should be sufficient. —fodigg ^(talk) | 20:00, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sith species article Edit

Thanks for the suggestion, Fodigg! What I'll do is I will wait till full confirmation, because I would need to source it, but I will leave out any wording in any part dealing with the TOR Empire that would suggest the old caste system reemained. That way people's minds should be able to put things together like we have, i.e. There is no caste system in TOR, probably due to low numbers. In fact, it says on the Inhabitants page that Purebloods are the descendants of the Kissai caste, so I'll mention that, and say Purebloods are "noble" but make no mention to the other castes.

I haven't even started re-writing the "Society and Culture" part anyway, and by the time I finish the article, I think TOR will be well underway to be honest. So it shouldn't really be a problem. :)

Thanks. —Obi–wan Jacobi ^(Talk) 21:34, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: gray jedi/gray paladins question Edit

Hey fodigg, it's good to hear from you! Here's my take on the matter: Gray Paladins don't fit into the first of the two main definitions of Gray Jedi, because (IIRC, anyway) they're never mentioned as "walking the line" between the light and dark side. However, the second definition in the article reads: "Jedi who distanced themselves from the Jedi High Council and operated outside the strictures of the Jedi Code." Now, while the Gray Paladins were very obviously distanced from the High Council, I'm not so sure whether or not they operated outside the Code; I unfortunately don't currently have access to my own Coruscant Nights books right now to check it out for you. So what I would do in this case is throw in a mention of the Paladins in the article, probably right after you talk about Qui-Gon; and you're probably safe listing them under the "Gray Jedi" section too (we even have an image of a Paladin for you to use there!). Still, you should probably see if you can get a hold of the books or find someone with access to them—not just to check out whether or not they did in fact operate outside the Code, but also to check out what other information there might be on the Paladins, so that you can make sure everything you add about them to the article is correct and complete as possible. If you have any more questions, or if you want me to look over the changes you make to the article, just let me know. :) Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 19:03, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Torocast? Edit

Hello, just wanted to let you know i saw a post from you, and upon recognizing your name, i figured i would leave a message. Been following SWTOR for as long as anyone, and listened to Torocast from episode 1. Just figured I would say "Hey", and that Torocast hasn't been the same without you. Anyway, thanks for all your contributions, and take care.--216.226.89.52 02:24, June 16, 2011 (UTC)