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My Zekka Thyne featured page nominationEdit

Hey, my name's Colin. I've been working very hard on the Zekka Thyne page for a featured article nomination, and as of right now, I've added all the pics and info I can get my hands on, read and reported on all the material the character is featured in, and addressed almost every concern that's been voiced.

The only thing that hasn't been addressed is that the article is lacking specific information about the Star Wars Galaxies missions Zekka assigns. Unfortunately, I can't find that information anywhere online, and since I haven't had a SWG account in years, I can't log on and find it myself. I'm hoping somebody will add that eventually, but in the grand scheme of things, I think it's pretty minor information, and would argue it shouldn't hold up its nomination.

I've been told the nomination has potential but doesn't have the votes, and that I should ask some people to review it for me. (I haven't actively asked people yet; I've never really gone through this process before.) I was hoping maybe you'd take a look at it and see if it's worthy of a vote from you? Or give me any further suggestions? I'd really appreciate it!


--ColinMcEv, Sept. 26, 21:43

Vandalism. AgainEdit

I'm sorry to have to report this again, but my userpage has been vandalized again. I suspect by the same person. Could you please take the appropriate action against the user? You can check the history as I'll be fixing the changes. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Talk) 15:26 September 6 2007 (UTC-8)

Inferno Edit

Luke dies in Inferno? So should the infobox date of death be changed? Chack Jadson Talk 00:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

attachment Edit

we need the article im sure severla people want it so i want to make it. Wont it add to Wookieepedia and increase the greatness of it??

  • I KArk you about that and if you dont think we need that article I think you should be removed from the beraucrats. Sorry but i beleive we need that article!!!!
  • Listen- Im Really Very Sorry About the Whole I kark You thing. Is there Anything I can do?? Teeky 17:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Inferno Edit

Well, I'm halfway through it. I just got the book today. Jaina Solo(Talk) 02:15, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Yes, it is. I only read two of her scenes so far–the scene with her and the boys and the one where she meets Salle Serpa. I'm resisting the urge to look at her page for spoilers. Jaina Solo(Talk) 02:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


Hey, sorry about that—I was away from my computer for a bit. I'm assuming you were pinging me regarding the recent vandalism to Mara? Your comment to the anon was more diplomatic than mine would have been ;) Greyman(Paratus) 02:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

GA Status Edit

Hello Ataru Master!

I have worked a great deal on rewriting a couple of articles and I was curious if you think they have a shot as a GA nom. The two articles I'm mostly inquiring about would be kolto and Valara Saar. I read the requirements and I think they hold up, for the most part. Being new, I don't quite know what to think, however. I thought you would be a good person to bounce this off of. In truth, I'm not quite sure about the referencing for the Valara Saar article, but that is my only reserve. I'd appreciate any comments when you get the chance. No rush. In the interim I will begin copyedting Lando Calrissian per Admirable Ackbar's go-ahead.

Thank you! Master Aban Fiolli (Alpheridies University ComNet) 25px 18:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


I noticed that there isn't very much stuff to do here (as in editing articles), and I was wondering if there is anything that I can do (beside editing my userpage)? I would love to contribute here, but I don't know what I can do here that hasn't already been done. LethalReflex 02:01, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


Both Graestan and myself have addressed your last objections to Starfighter combat's FA nom. Please advise.--Goodwood 20:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Before you cross out your objection, I would like to discuss an issue regarding the article with you in IRC. --Imperialles 20:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


Hey Ataru, if you have a few minutes could you hop onto IRC for a sec? I have something I want to run by you and get your point of view on. If you don't have the time, don't worry about it :) Greyman(Paratus) 15:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Shii-Cho Edit

I edited the recently added section to the Shii-Cho article. Can I now remove the tags? - TopAce (Talk) 15:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

  • I was happy to help. - TopAce (Talk) 09:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Vader's Form II practise Edit

Regarding what we were speaking of on my talk page, I also have my copy with me, and it... actually doesn't say anything concrete about Vader practising Form II. In fact it both infers and contridicts it. Read these:

In favor of Form II:

"His style borrowed elements from all techniques of combat, even from the highest, most dangerous levels, and his moves were crisp and unpredictable."
―Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader

Contradicting Form II:

"No whirling now; now windmilling or deft lunges. He simply used his bulk and size to remain wedded to the floor. It was an old style, the very opposite of what was said to be Count Dooku's style, and Shryne had no defense against it."
―Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
Darth Vatrir
  • Well, regarding Form III and IV, the book does say he utilizes them. Again, read this:
"At various times his stances and techniques mimicked those of Ataru and Soresu, but Vader appeared to lack a style of his own, and executed his moves stiffly."
―Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader

And regarding Form IV, he practised it as Anakin, so I think that makes Vader a practitioner by default. Darth Vatrir

"Links" ;-)Edit

Hey Ataru. Regarding our little conversation about underwear last month, just thought it might interest you that I tracked down the proper source for brassiere ;-). Cheers. --Azizlight 12:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Inq meetingEdit

Hey Ataru, we are having an meeting for Inqs soon, and your attendance/input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Greyman(Paratus) 02:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

You Edit

Atarumaster how did you become an Administrator?? Im just wondering so i can try to become (After alot of time) one to!!!! Teeky 13:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Thanks what did you do so great so that you becae an administrator?? Teeky 22:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*Thanks for the info. Teeky 18:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey relax Edit

Hey friend relax I just made a question in the forum. I did not insulted you. We both don't want my user time to end like the UESP Conflict (for info see my page). Even if I like your site very much. And don't get angry when a ask you if you have been to HAlopedia. I say again I DID NOT INSULTED YOU. Nevermind can you give me a tip how to make one wookieeproject. George Skywalker 17:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Jundland Wastes SandboxEdit

Why isn't the Jundland Wastes Sandbox on the Main Page. Could you put it on there if you find it reasonable? If you would like to answer, put it on my talk page. Cactuar83 02:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Thank you for getting back to me. Cactuar83 21:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Award Proposal Opinion Edit

Hello I created an award proposal called The Rusty Gonk Award and I just wanted to ask your opinion. Cactuar8320pxYoda's Hut

Apologies Edit

Sorry for my posts on the Voting page. My ignorance was at fault, I didn't understand the voting rules you have in place on the website nor did I know that the voting was closed. I wasn't trying to open up discussion or breaks the rules on purpose. I was just trying to put in my two cents. Again, sorry. -Nameless707

Re: GrievousEdit

Yeah, I do have LOE. I'll get right on fixing your objection. Chack Jadson (Talk) 15:58, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Fixed your objection. Sorry it took me so long. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:28, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

ZOMG absinteee objekter!!!!!!!!!!Edit

Darklighter is ready to be queued, minus your outstanding haven't-read-it objections. So . . . get on it. I think the image one is the only I haven't fixed, and that's because no one is going to agree with you and you're wrong. :p Havac 03:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

  • *Kicks Ataru again.* Havac 01:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


Re your objection to Species: I'd like to expand this more later and take it to FA, at which point I will expand the sentience thing. Do you still think it needs to expanded for GA level? --Eyrezer 03:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


OK, in the masterwork Star Wars Missions 18: Rogue Squadron to the Rescue:

Wedge and Rogue Squadron are on Kwenn Space Station, scouting for new Rebel bases (Even though they already know about Hoth at this point. Go figure.) and they observe Imperial forces seizing the Stellar Manx. The Imperials detain the crew for no good reason, which prompts Wedge to send a message probe to Princess Leia on Malagarr for assistance. Wearing disguises, Wedge, Wes, and Tycho, go to Hangar 872-H to investigate. While observing the Stellar Manx, they are found by Stormtroopers.

The ensuing exchange:

Stormtrooper: You're not supposed to be here! Wedge: What do you think we should do, boys? Tycho: I think we should give these stormtroopers free dancing lessons. Wes: Or at least teach them some manners.


Now, the next part is ambiguous, since it's the actual "game" part of the book.

The Rogues evade the Stormtroopers, and split up. Thanks to the efforts of one of them, the Manx crew is liberated, and the Manx itself retrieved from Imperial hands. It is learned that the Imperials were going to take the Manx to Bonadan for an inconspicuous rendezvous with Frap Radicon, where they would initiate a plan to develop new gravity well technology. The Rebels (not the Rogues), eventually foil the plan.

Any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. Thefourdotelipsis 01:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Manaan Edit

Hello, Ataru. Per the Inq meeting about Manaan, I was curious what the process is to renominate the article. It lost its FA status and I have been working to get it back up to that. What is the procedure for this? Also, is there any way to expand upon where the article is lacking. I'm mostly curious about the referencing and the fanon. Thanks. Master Aban Fiolli (Alpheridies University ComNet) 20px 16:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Teek objectionsEdit

Could you have a look at Teek (species) and see if the remaining one has been cleared up? Thanks, -- AdmirableAckbar [Talk] 17:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Noticeboard forum Edit

As far as the forum goes, chop off everything after my first post, and you have the original intended context. I hope you understand that no one had edited the forum for several hours before you told everyone to knock it off. I hope the matter is resolved, and I further hope that efforts by other users to interfere for the workings of the noticeboard are given attention of their own. Thank you.—Graestan(This party's over) 05:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Spoilers and Updates Edit

Um, shouldn't we be putting spoilers up on pages such as Zayne Carrick, Cade Skywalker, and Xoxaan? Plus, we really need to update some the articles, like Alek Squinquargesimus and Darth Talon.--Jedi Kasra 23:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Wookiee Cookie Edit

It's a little late, but

JRStarNinja99 has awarded you a Wookiee Cookie!
For helping me learn how to size pictures. It's come in handy.

Unknown Bith Jedi 2Edit

This Unknown Bith Jedi(2) not at all true so can you please delete?


Nice catch on Asyr, but then I'd still like some clarification as to why they were captured at all. On Thrawn's crew, I still think there needs to be further explanation. If Thrawn captured the Hopskip, then why would he use the freighter crew, and why would the crew help him? Is there a reason that some random mercenaries agreed to help Thrawn? Cull Tremayne 00:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

  • In order to reclaim my fandom, yes I read them, but I only own the Allston books. Oh, and I'm trying to read the article from the viewpoint that I have no prior knowledge. :-P Cull Tremayne 03:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

C'baoth FA ojection Edit

Fixed your FA objections to Joruus C'baoth. And I'm aware it still needs work to get up to FA status. Chack Jadson (Talk) 22:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Sorry I missed the Chimaera explanation earlier in the article. Don't know how I didn't see that. And, answering your second comment, I re-added that stuff because Fourdot suggested it, and I agree, it is important. It gives the article a better ending, as it details how Thrawn's campaign turned out. Chack Jadson (Talk) 02:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
    • So what has been decided regarding the above thing? Chack Jadson (Talk) 13:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
      • I saw that, but since I was never told, I thought you might have talked about something else on IRC or something. Thanks for letting me know now though. Chack Jadson (Talk) 20:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
        • Hope I'm not bothering you, but I was wondering if you thought the article (mainly the conclusion) was okay now. Chack Jadson (Talk) 13:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: Inqtastic Edit

Ah, there might have been a bit of misreading, I'm afraid. I didn't want the Thrawn stuff back in, but I thought the article ended abruptly with just "C'boath exploded." There should be something else that can be said after that, surely. Thefourdotelipsis 07:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Force ExileEdit

Sorry to say this here (but I've got this very small hunch that's telling me you're here more often :P), but I figured I'd let you know that I'm slowly chipping away at Force Exile. I don't know if you ever noticed this, but it's a very long novel. :D - Brandon Rhea 06:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Good call on the banner. I'm not generally on other Wikis, so I usually don't get that. I can understand the thing about the lukewarm response, as I got the same thing on TF.N for awhile. Anyway, good to hear from you, and whenever you get the chance to review Chapters Eight, Nine and Ten (I haven't gotten around to a new chapter in like a month O_O), that'd be awesome. - Brandon Rhea

Nantex FAN objection Edit

LordOblivion's just been through all the game's cutscenes and hasn't found a single Geonosian starfighter. Plenty of Jedi Starfighters, but no Nantexes. And I know there's none in the game itself.--Goodwood 20px (For the Rebellion!) 21:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Legacy of the Force: Invincible Edit

Hey, Ataru. Guess what? The cover for Legacy of the Force: Invincible has finally been released. Check it out here: Just thought I'd let you know.--Jedi Kasra 20:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


I'm glad to be back. Jaina Solo(Talk) 00:15, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


  • Re: here. It should be pretty easy to find, but I'm not sure if the person whose site it's on wants the link widely promulgated, so I'm not posting it here. PM me at TF.N...? --McEwok 02:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Inq assistance Edit

Hullo. Ah, as you are 1) The Inq I most trust and 2) A good article-shredder, could you, in your spare time, point out everything wrong with Darth Vader's armor, besides sourcing? Thankee. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 23:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

  • FA-level, please. Before I fix the thing, I would like you to break it. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 04:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Thank you very much. BTW, do you know of anyone who has or has access to Star Wars Kids 6, The Dark Side Sourcebook, Star Wars Adventure Journal 1 (not the collection of AJ 1-4), Star Wars Insider 80, and someone who has Hyperspace access who could look up a couple article for me? Thank you very much for your time and help. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 04:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
      • Thank you, I'll do that (to the best of my ability), and thanks for such a quick feedback on the article. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 04:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
        • Upon seeing your reply, it reminded me to check IRC for the sources, but when I tried to get on, it disconnected me, something about the gateway being blocked from abuse. Is there any way around that? -Solus (Bird of Prey) 23:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Edit

Thanks for the congratulations. And thanks for the vote and the kind words! Graestan(This party's over) 04:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas! Edit

Graestan would like to wish you a Merry Christmas!

I'd like to thank you all for the friendship, guidance, and support you've given me in the past year. Were it not for people like you, Wookieepedia would not be the success it has become. Keep up the good work! -- Graestan(Talk) 18:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


I'm locked out of editing the FAN page, so I'm responding here.

  • It goes by the name of "the Car'das", not the name of "Car'das".
  • Not a fan of one-paragraph sections. At all.
    • You haven't replied here, but the objection is still there on the page, so I'll draw your attention to it.
  • It never is in the sources.
  • You're right; he never got around to it. The wording should have been tweaked, which it now has.
  • That's odd. Looks like I got distracted halfway through and came back doing something else. Fixed.
  • He ran the pseudogovermental information-sharing agency. Basically, a massive NGO. It's not a business; it's an extragovernmental bureaucracy.
    • Is it ever called that in the books or in a source? If not, than that's fanon and should be removed. Bureaucracy implies that a government bureau of some type is involved, and that's clearly not the case. And Jorj Car'das, who occupied a similar position for Sidious, is not categorized thus. That means one of them is wrong. Atarumaster88 20px (Talk page) 07:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
      • Car'das's position wasn't anything alike. He was a covert spy for Darth Sidious. Talon Karrde ran a legitimate bureau which shared information between the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant, explicitly compared with BoSS, which was also a massive NGO -- a bureaucracy without a government.
        • So what's the remaining deal on this one?
  • If you're saying what I think you're saying, don't be silly. The names of the books are all in the link; spelling them all out is just pedantic.
    • Well, it's kinda odd to have a reference that has all the books in just one lump sum. There's gotta be a better way than having such an inconsistent reference. Atarumaster88 20px (Talk page) 07:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
      • What's wrong with it? We talk about "the prequel trilogy" when talking about all three films in a bunch, we talk about the Special Editions instead of the Special Editions of A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. Why? Because the individual components are utterly unimportant if all you're talking about is the group. Do we have to mention ever member of the stormtrooper corps when we discuss it? How is the reference inconsistent? What in the name of Waru is it inconsistent with? It's a trilogy. Unless you're talking about one of the books in particular, you don't need to spell out the titles of everything belonging to the group which you're discussing as a group. Like I said, pedantic.
  • It's the second one in "The Yuuzhan Vong War". The cantina one didn't fit anywhere and was lower-quality anyway.
    • You could put it in the BTS. It would fit there. And I happen to like that image, but whatever. Atarumaster88 20px (Talk page) 07:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
      • So we're including images for the pure sake of having images now? Bad Idea.
  • Havac 07:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you and your family as well, Ataru :) Greyman(Paratus) 16:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

DV's armor Edit

In your spare time, could you please take a quick glance at User:Solus/WIP to see if there's anything else I need to do? Thank you for your time. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 06:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

  • After a few minor edits, I went ahead and replaced Darth Vader's armor, so you can just look at it there instead. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 21:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
  • From the reloaded desk of Atarumaster88
    • The use of "off and on tinkered" in the intro is suspect; could be better worded.
    • " as seen when Luke removed it when Vader was dying" appears to be OOU. Reword or remove.
    • I'm hoping all that stuff in the design part is stated in a sourcebook or something and not just fan observation. The former is preferred.
      • No, I thought it was okay since I did it to FA Amidala's wardrobe. I don't think a sourcebook would spend that much time elaborating on his suit... I'm not sure what to do with the section. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 04:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
    • "was fairly normally shaped around the back"- what is a normal shape?
    • Unless mentioned in a source, the reference to the kama is unnecessary.
    • " Though he was limited in areas, as a suit it gave Vader a much larger window of opportunity." This sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense or serve a meaningful purpose.
    • Is there an extra apostrophe here? "mask's 'goggles.'"
    • "thus were replaced and performed by his armor". Remove the "and performed by"
    • "his boots remained planet to the floor while"- I think it's supposed to be "planted"
    • Gah! Present tense! "Vader's breathing is machine-regulated"
    • It seems to me that there is an awful lot of speculation in here. I recommend you look at other technology-type articles to see what type of content is allowed; I also recommend you ask someone with more knowledge of the source material than I- perhaps Darth Culator or Gonk or Green Tentacle could help you with that.
    • Check the tone of the writing. It should be written in an encyclopediac tone, and there are parts of it that sound more . . . informal. That doesn't really help, sorry. Parts of it also read like an analysis, rather than a description.
      • This is about the spine, isn't it? The researcher in me has betrayed me once more. I'll refer to the advice above. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 04:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Is the "height" section really germaine to the armor? Just something to think about.
      • Ah, too bad. I loved that piece of information. Shot. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 04:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
    • More present tense: "the worst of Vader's injuries result from "
    • Origin section is a bit too long; condense so it's not a retelling of the last thirty minutes or so of Ep. III
      • Is it better, or could it be further condensed? -Solus (Bird of Prey) 04:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
    • The paragraph starting with this sentence: "Upon his revival as a cyborg, Vader questioned his Master about Padmé." is entirely unnecessary.
    • "The outbursts were brief enough not to roast him totally, but the instantaneous peak power is remarkable."-- this is a clear case of analysis rather than description. Cut it.
    • "Luke Skywalker suffered lingering effects from the milder Force lightning he had experienced a few days after the encounter."--> Paragraph that starts this sentence is entirely unnecessary.
    • Glove of Darth Vader needs a mention in "Design"
    • Go through and read it again, checking to make sure everything sounds NPOV.
      • What would be considered POV, i.e., what should I look out for? -Solus (Bird of Prey) 04:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
    • "As well, at times he manipulate his blade with just his wrists, not moving his arms"- missing a "d".
    • Kind a long critique- sorry about that. It's definitely long enough, and has come quite a long way. Excellent work on sourcing everything, just make sure that it's concrete canon you're citing, and not just interpretation. That sort of thing makes me wince, even if some might say it's acceptable. Like I said, you would probably be better off finding someone more knowledgeable about the subject. Atarumaster88 20px (Talk page) 02:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Answer Edit

  • Darth Bane: Rule of Two DarthMalus 07:39, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


Left a message for you in Joruus C'baoth's entry on the FAN page. Chack Jadson (Talk) 13:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Inq meeting Edit

There will be an Inq meeting on the 12th/13th at 0:00 UTC. Graestan(Talk) 03:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

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