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Contents 1 Bail Antilles CT 2 Starck 3 Re:Tanbris 4 Re:Galen Torg 5 FAN page reviewing 6 Cloud City tech/Star Wars Customizable Card Game 7 Re: Rodians 8 Unidentified Rodians Docking Bay 94 9 Niado 10 Soth Petikkin and Bron Burs 11 Pipelinking 12 Jawas 13 Chief gunnery officer 14 Cariso Smadis 15 Unidentified stormtrooper (Central Core Shaft) 16 SW Trailer 17 Re: Hydromech droid 18 Nemet 19 Treblanc 20 WOTM 21 M'kae Lines 22 Duron Veertag 23 Re:Galen Torg

Bail Antilles CT Edit

Hey Hanzo. I'm having trouble finding a way to formulate our potential CT. In what terms would you put it? --LelalMekha (talk) 18:19, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

• It's not really about formatting. I mean that the issue in itself may be too specific to strike a vote before discussion. I think it's best to start a SH thread first, and then move on to a CT if necessary. --LelalMekha (talk) 18:32, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
  • Done. Please have a look and tell me if I made both our points clear—I've been working all day and my brains are figuratively melting. --LelalMekha (talk) 18:40, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
    • Hey, English may not be my mother tongue, but I'm still a (French) language teacher, after all! ;-) We have the same problem in French, actually. People, especially journalists, keep misusing the word littéralement. --LelalMekha (talk) 19:14, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
• Hi Hanzo! Apparently, our SH thread has been archived. Unfortunately, only two other editors interacted and gave their opinion on the thread. We haven't made any progress in the matter. I'd like to know if you could give me a review of the article anyway, even if you're not convinced that the pictures should stay. Regards. --LelalMekha (talk) 10:40, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

StarckEdit

Unfortunately not as of this time. If you want to know more, this is where I took the image from. Cheers. Stake black ^msg 19:09, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

• Not really, sorry. Stake black ^msg 02:39, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Tanbris Edit

Hi Hanzo. Thanks for the kind words. As far as Bradford is concerned, I'm currently researching the matter. I'll check Star Wars: Behind the Magic to see whether his name is mentioned or not, and then maybe try other sources. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:21, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Galen Torg Edit

No problem, I'll see what I can dig up, but it may take some time. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:59, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

• One last thing before I go to bed: you may want to check the Rebel Honor Guard article—if don't already have done it. --LelalMekha (talk) 01:50, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
  • The quote was, as you put it, just thrown in there. Oh I don't mind if you ask someone else, of course not. Why would I? Besides, I believe Menkooroo may be able to give you answers much more quickly than I do. --LelalMekha (talk) 09:34, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Here are a few sources I already searched for Torg. As you probably expect, the results are quite poor.

1. Star Wars: A New Hope - The Special Edition 4 –- absent
2. Star Wars Manga: A New Hope 4 –- absent
3. Star Wars Droids 8: Star Wars According to the Droids, Book III –- there are two guards near the entrance of the Grand Chamber, but their appearance differs significantly with what is seen in the movie. So it may be a possible appearance(?)
4. Star Wars 6: Is This the Final Chapter? -- absent (the comic scraps the Royal Award Ceremony completely
5. The Day after the Death Star! -- absent (there are no guards at the entrance of the Audience Chamber) --LelalMekha (talk) 10:11, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

And another thing: there is a Hasbro action figure of the Rebel Honor Guard. See the toy package here, you may dig new information. I also found out that Torg is mentioned in Star Wars: Behind the Magic: "Galen Torg. A Rebel Alliance sentry. As a reward for his dedication and courage, he was selected for honor-guard duty at the ceremony for the Heroes of Yavin." --LelalMekha (talk) 10:26, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Fear not, I'll keep searching. But I don't think we'll find many references, though. That Honor Guard is so minor a character that he has been disregarded or forgotten most of the time. --LelalMekha (talk) 16:28, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, but they usually have at least one line in the movie. That poor bloke doesn't, which is probably why he appears so little in A New Hope adaptations. --LelalMekha (talk) 16:33, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

I was pretty sure you'd ask about the sentries, so I prepared this. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:56, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

The way I understand the text, it only means he was an officer on Alderaan—which is the safest assumption to make. Oh, and I found another interesting thing: see this card from the Wizards of the Coast miniatures. It says that many Rebel Honor Guards were former members of the Senate Guards who refused to join Palpatine's Imperial Guards. --LelalMekha (talk) 23:10, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

All right, then. Ah! Those things you learn by only searching a little! --LelalMekha (talk) 23:23, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

• Hey there. I think you should still include Star Wars Droids 8: Star Wars According to the Droids, Book III in the Appearances list, with a note of his different-lookingness in the BTS. The precedent I'm thinking of is... here! I think Lelal got most of the sources; the only other ones I've got are Contemporary Motivators and the PhotoComic/Cine-manga, neither of which have this guy. Menkooroo (talk) 12:16, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

FAN page reviewing Edit

Hey, Hanzo,

I'm writing this to you on behalf of the entire Inquisitorius. At our recent meeting, we discussed the current lack of non-INQs who are actively involved in reviewing on the FAN page, and we decided that the best solution was to simply appeal to people to review more. This first paragraph is being sent verbatim to a whole bunch of people, but the following one is being written specifically for you.

OK --- you're actually one of the FAN page's most active reviewers, and I love the work you do. But I'm sending this message to pretty much everyone. We're hoping to breathe some life into the FAN page with a reviewing revolution, and we'd love to have you continue to be a part of it. You've been here long enough to know the "reviewing helps improve your writing" and "You should review a few articles every time you nom one blah blah blah" arguments, so I won't bore you with any of them. I'll just ask you to keep up the great work, and, if you want to, increase your productivity even more and become some kind of super-reviewer! Cheers, and have a great day. Menkooroo (talk) 07:37, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Cloud City tech/Star Wars Customizable Card GameEdit

Good catch, Hanzo. Thanks. I can't believe I didn't pick that up. Rokkur Shen (talk) 01:54, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Rodians Edit

All right. Thanks for the heads-up.—Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 01:02, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Unidentified Rodians Docking Bay 94Edit

Hanzo I don't think "possibly might NOT necessarily mention Jabba's henchmen" is a good enough reason to remove sources. Can you further explain you actions here? Also, an indirect mention is still valid. Why did you remove the Behind the Magic links? Rokkur Shen (talk) 01:31, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

• At the time I added those, I automatically assumed that the scripts in all the sources were exactly the same as the one found on BlueHarvest.net, of which that scene is described as "Jabba the Hut and a half-dozen grisly alien pirates and purple creatures stand in the middle of the docking bay." It is possible that those henchmen might not necessarily be mentioned in all the other sources, and they might go along the lines of simply "Jabba the Hut stands in the middle of the docking bay." As an example, I know the BlueHarvest.net script includes this guy, with the passage "Admiral Piett and another captain glance at Vader in terror," but I was told in either Annotated Screenplays or BTM (forgot which), he is not mentioned, and it only says "Admiral Piett glances at Vader in terror." For that reason, I would it to be confirmed that those Rodians are somewhat mentioned. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:55, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
• OK thanks, but why are we using unofficial scripts at BlueHarvest.net over officially licensed published scripts? Rokkur Shen (talk) 02:53, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
  • We are not. However, Cal has asked SavageBob for what those official sources actually say, so they will be added back if they indeed mention the Rodians. I would think all of them do, and BTM possibly also pictures them, but as I couldn't confirm I removed them to be safe. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:40, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
    • OK, thanks for clarifying. Glad someone's looking into it then. Rokkur Shen (talk) 12:07, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Niado Edit

Hey, Hanzo. I archived Niado's CAnom, but I noticed something on his talk page: His name is an anagram of "dianoga dude." Per the precedent of Seib Nod and your own Grondorn Muse, you could mention that in the BTS if you wanted. Cheers. Menkooroo (talk) 05:37, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

• Ah, come on man, are you kidding? There's no way "dianoga dude" was an unintentional anagram. Menkooroo (talk) 01:07, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
  • Eh, I think that's doing a disservice to the reader. It can be included under the "logical deduction" bit of WP:ATT per precedent. Whether or not it's somebody's real name is completely irrelevant. Menkooroo (talk) 03:44, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
  • Sorry to push the point --- again, it is ultimately up to you --- but I do think that this is covered by this CT, which was about making obvious connections to name origins even when they're not confirmed. It's certainly more obvious than Gordon Sumner. Menkooroo (talk) 05:14, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Soth Petikkin and Bron Burs Edit

Hey, Hanzo. Both of those aliens appear on p. 242 of Chronicles. The information on Petikkin says, "A robed biped, Alien 25 might have been a candidate for a Jabba aide." Then, it says this about Bron Burs: " A possible rhino/elephant head." It doesn't give a name for either of them, and Burs doesn't have an alien number like most of the others on the page do. Hope this helps! ~Savage 12:23, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:38, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

PipelinkingEdit

Hi Hanzo, can you please explain pipelinking or point me towards the relevant policy here on the Wook? I don't understand what the big issue is. Rokkur Shen (talk) 07:16, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

JawasEdit

Hey Hanzo, decided to discuss this here: User talk:SavageBob#Jawas. Feel free to weigh in on this discussion, since I noticed you removed my additions to R'kik D'nec's page. Rokkur Shen (talk) 03:06, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Chief gunnery officer Edit

Hi Hanzo, I'm happy to help out. Essentially, the sourcebook includes a short story titled "This Guy Just Doesn't Care," which is supposedly IU testimony from Reagal Eron, the chief gunnery officer of the Star Destroyer Eradicator. Eron recounts how, while serving as an adjutant to the Imperial Governor Isis, he witnessed Boba Fett collect a bounty from Isis for the capture of the pirate Feldrall Okor. The exact time-frame of this is event is unclear, but it seems to be set roughly around the time of the Galactic Civil War. This is probably more information than you need; good luck with update. --Jinzler (talk) 18:33, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

• No, there isn't anything there that indicates the character's gender. --Jinzler (talk) 20:50, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Cariso Smadis Edit

Hey Hanzo! No problem, just give me a few hours and I'll check the sources I own. --LelalMekha (talk) 14:38, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

• As a matter of fact, I may need a few informations in order to help you correctly. Coudl you please show me where this guy is meant to be in that scene? All I can see is a bunch of guys with bike helmet, so it's not too easy to differentiate them. --LelalMekha (talk) 14:52, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Now that's too bad. I still can check if you want, but as I said, the adaptations essentially feature a bunch of faceless, interchangeable extras with the same silly helmet. --LelalMekha (talk) 20:49, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
    • Oh, by the way, I saw that you just nominated Galen Torg. I remember seeing one or two weeks ago some kind of conceptual drawing for the original trilogy on which the alternate guards seen in Star Wars Droids 8: Star Wars According to the Droids, Book III were obviously based. Unfortunately, I can't seem to remember in which darned book I saw it... I may inquire if you feel like it. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:08, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
      • Just in case, I found it: it's a costume sketch for the Rebel ceremony guards drawn by John Mollo. It can be seen in The Art of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. The guard shown on the left of that panel from According to the Droids is clearly traced from Mollo's sketch. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:24, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
        • Unfortunately, I cannot access BTM for the time being. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, especially since I'm (apparently) one of the last users who owns a working copy of it. :s --LelalMekha (talk) 22:32, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
          • I still own most adaptations, however, so feel free to ask at any time. You see, books have a clear advantage on CD-ROMs: event decades later, you still can read them. ;) --LelalMekha (talk) 22:37, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
• Basically, I've got adapations pertaining to the three original movies and TPM. As far as AOTC and ROTS are concerned, I'm less well equipped. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:44, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

Unidentified stormtrooper (Central Core Shaft) Edit

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Unidentified stormtrooper (Central Core Shaft) has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — JangFett (Talk) 18:44, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

SW Trailer Edit

Here's the teaser trailer for ANH. The stormtroopers can be seen at 1:02. I hope this helps, JangFett ^(Talk) 14:23, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Hydromech droid Edit

Hey, sorry for not answering sooner, but I've been kind of busy these days. I still have other sources to check, but that droid doesn't appear in any of the comic book adaptations (Marvel or Special Edition), neither is it shown in the Golden Book releases, the Star Wars Storybook or in the TokyoPop cine-manga. --LelalMekha (talk) 15:27, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Nemet Edit

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Treblanc Edit

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WOTM Edit

Hey Hanzo, just wanted to say thanks for supporting my nomination for WOTM last month. I really appreciate it. Supreme Emperor (talk) 13:59, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

M'kae Lines Edit

Here are some of the M'kae quest dialogue. There is more, but I just need to sort through it later:

Player = P M’kae = M

• M: Good day. Would you, a loyal member of the Empire, know the whereabouts of a pilot named Cal Handro?
• P: Yes, sir. I have come to tell you where he is.
• M: Very good. I knew that he would be discovered soon. Where is the traitor?
• P: Tierce Martano will send you the coordinates.
• M: That no-good gambler? It shouldn't surprise me that he lied to us. Of course, if he cooperates now, I won't have him arrested.
• P: He will. Just send him a message with my name. He's waiting for it.
• M: Excellent. I'll have the pilot sent to a safe house where you will pick him up.
• P: Me? Why am I still involved?
• M: Right now, you are the one that I trust most. Talk to the head guard when you get there for a status report.
• P: Just point me in the right direction.

StarsiderSWG (talk) 02:18, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Duron Veertag Edit

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Re:Galen Torg Edit

Yeah, I'm aware. Any luck finding other sources? JangFett ^(Talk) 20:39, May 19, 2013 (UTC)